Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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I think it's a Haffner/Stiles team up               I've always thought RJ has a strong connection to Stiles and Visulize                       Stiles seems to be the only one on the show who knows who he is                               and after the weak McAllister reveal I'm convinced Stiles and Haffner are still alive and it's more likely Haffner is Red John and Stiles is the one who discovered him at the Red Barn and is his mentor      Haffner\Red John runs BA for Visulize                    how awesome would it be if Malcolm McDowell narrates the true Red John story through flashback and after that Haffner turns around and slashes Stile's throat and paints the RJ smiley face     then gets away   

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I've posted SEVERAL TIMES about SEASON ONE CLUES -- #8676 and #9096, because I think Heller's KNOWN FROM DAY ONE who RJ is -- and the CLUES are ALL buried in the beginning, like in ANY good story.  So, I will list them again because IT'S TOO BAD THAT SOME PEOPLE SAY the clues mean nothing.  As more of these clues are addressed, the more we will know about the whole story.

A TATTOO  [3 DOTS]
CLOWN       [I think this is the origin of the smiley face actually, which is likely a sad clown]
TWINS        [KIRKLAND]
CORRUPT LAW ENFORCEMENT [BLAKE ASSOCIATION]
The NAME THOMAS   [THOMAS MCALLISTER]
PSYCHICS
HYPNOSIS
FOOTBALL
REDHEADED WOMEN
A "WHALE" or GAMBLER  [GALE BERTRAM]
FARMS  [TANNER FARM/ELLISTON VISUALIZE BARN/KIRLAND BARN]
PINEAPPLE [GRACE LIKES/CHO HATES/Cop killed by Cordero orders "pineapple cheroot" before dying]
GOLF 
WATER/MARINA/BOAT

THINK this covers it -- but maybe I missed "BIRDS" and "SURVEILLANCE" LOL

SOME PROMINENT SEASON ONE PLOT THEMES I think might echo character's:  as Lisbon's story was told in #3 episode plot, and McAllister's hidden truth was shown in episode #9
A FATHER RAPING/KILLING DAUGHTER
A MAN KILLED BY HIS WIFE
SIBLING against SIBLING
An ILLEGITIMATE CHILD kept a secret
A MAN ACTING MUCH DUMBER THAN HE REALLY IS  [THOMAS MCALLISTER]
VERY ABUSIVE FATHER 
TROUBLED YOUTH 
WOMAN USING MEN TO KILL FOR HER


We shall see...

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where are all the theories people?  McAllister wasn't Red John    the real RJ is still out there              so who do you think the real Red John is?         either McAllister is just another Timothy Carter and Jane is playing the long con on RJ just like his breakdown at the end of season 4 or this is all a post explosion coma dream just like when Jane drank the drugged tea and tripped out                   nothing about the RJ reveal/death or this new beginning storyline has felt like The Mentalist and it doesn't prove to me that Red John is dead and this is the new direction of the show    how long is this new beginning gonna last untill we see a RJ smiley face?     I'm betting on the season finale    the huge shocking season finale cliffhanger is Red John is still alive      every season finale has been so amazing and it's because it's an RJ episode       what else can they do for the season 6 finale?    they haven't really established anything new to replace the RJ saga   this whole new beginning is one big fake out misdirect        WHO DO YOU THINK THE REAL RED JOHN IS?     just don't pick apart theories without posting one yourself       the RJ story line wasn't finished 8 episodes into the season    so until the end of the season we have to assume Red John is still alive       it's not crazy to think McAllister isn't Red John    it is crazy if you believe McAllister was Red John before the end of the season               did you believe Timothy Carter was Red John?      if they explained all that away in one episode they can do the same for McAllister      If Red John pulled that trick on Jane once why wouldn't he do it again?                                                                           who do you think the real Red John is?                                               

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Hello everyone and thanks for all your theories

It is still possible that Red john is alive , I'm not saying he is , but there is a possibility

We all remember Timothy Carter and how he changed his voice into Red john's voice , which is an ability that even McAllister had .. So it's really interesting and mysterious

I don't think that Timothy Carter was one of the top guns in the BA so did O'Laughlin really talked to him ? Or Red John asked Timothy to repeat what he said to Lisbon just to trick Patrick and get him to kill Carter , Or maybe RJ gave Carter the phone and asked him to pretend to be RJ , it's the same RJ voice and that's when i realized that there is hope that RJ is sill there messing with Jane

I won't accuse anyone , but i want to say that the show is great so far no matter how it will end , Bruno Still have the potential to end it in a legendary way

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Just watched the ep where red john left a message on the cbi database of him watching agent darcy.
You have to admit it was wierd that grace just so happen to be at cbi late at night at the exact time red john left this message .
Jane says "grace why are you here "? She says with a weird face "i dont know , just had to do some stuff ".
The message was in real time so if grace wasnt there it wouldnt if worked .
Weird right ?

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Not a theory.

I just wanted to point to the fact that there are hidden clues in Green Thumb.

I am not sure what they mean but i wanted to share them.

The case is supposed to take place in New York, however i believe it actually happens in LA.

The flighttime between Austin and New York doesn't add up.

In the satellite map you can see the blue water tower on the roof of the Schneidermans building. When Abbot and Fischer go there to look for the body we get a look at it.

It has the logo of Meruelo Maddoxx Properties.

They were a real estate firm that owned comercial properties in downtown LA. They filed for bankruptcy March 26th 2009. The successor is EVOQ and went into business June 2011. It was said that the building was introduced as an abandoned storage building. That could be a clue that time line wise we are in this in between period.

http://www.evoqproperties.com/about-evoq/

From the window of Schneiderman's loft we can see the George Washington bridge on the left side from the top we see the Brooklyn Bridge also on the left side.

The Hot Dog Stand that Jane buys the hot dog from has California liscence plates.

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Maybe McAllister was Red John     but Stiles was the one calling the shots all along    Red John might be dead but there is a bigger story to tell that still involves Red John somehow       

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