Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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Hi,
Just wanting to point things out (and also hoping for a better sequel to RJ's fall) :
(" The Tiger", William Blake, 1794)

5th and 6th stanzas :
In what distant deeps or skies
Burnt the fire of thine eyes?
-->  episode # 9 : "My Blue heaven"

7th and 8th stanzas :
On what wings dare he aspire?
What the hand dare seize the fire?

--> episode # 10 : "Green thumb"

9th and 10th stanzas :
And What shoulder, and what art,
Could twist the sinews of thy heart?

--> episode # 11 : "White lines"

13th and 14th stanzas :
What the hammer? what the chain?
In what furnace was thy brain?
--> episode # 12 : "Golden Hammer"

 
17th stanza :
When the stars threw down their spears,
--> episode # 13 :"Black Helicopters"

18th stanza :
And watered heaven with their tears,
--> episode # 14 :"Grey water"

20th stanza :
Did he who made the lamb make thee?
--> episode # 15 : "As White as the Driven Snow"

(may be - or not - related to the nursery : "Mary had a little lamb, whose fleece was white as snow", Sarah Josepha Hale, 1830s).



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hi mentalist fans, (reposting because myusername was misspelled) :) thanks. 

just connecting with everyone again and wanted to share something.
i truly believe as many of us do that the red johnsaga is not over.
there are so many fascinating theories on this site and i truly enjoy reading them! especially since the last episodes have "seemed" rather boring and pointless without rj or our much desired flashbacks and explanations....
so we all have our preference as to who would make the most exciting, nefarious, compelling red john...which is cool. you can see from my name who i love as red john ;-D and i still believe 100% that haffner is red john. and that stiles and visualize play a major part in rj's storyline. 

what i find exceedingly important is the title of the most disappointing episode "my blue heaven." because "blue heaven" is slang/street name for the drug LSD!! a hallucinogenic drug...*****************
just sayin i believe this to be a vital clue from heller that the blue heaven episode and all others eppys since then are a hallucination of jane's. i cant even express how much i hope this to be true and believe it is true. 

plus jane's 'blue' tea cup broke...could be a clue...

i feel that we still have yet to see what took place inside jane's where the suspects were gathered and it is yet to be revealed who is still alive and who is actually dead. the sheriff is red john episode was a joke...the whole thing was the absolute worst. so, if heller is as good as i think he is and has been for most of the series, i believe we are in for the most exciting reveal and confrontation that we've been hoping for! Just being optimistic and hoping for a satisfying final rj reveal and personally i still believe red john is ray haffner! 

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hi mentalist fans,
just connecting with everyone again and wanted to share something.
i truly believe as many of us do that the red johnsaga is not over.
there are so many fascinating theories on this site and i truly enjoy reading them! especially since the last episodes have "seemed" rather boring and pointless without rj or our much desired flashbacks and explanations....
so we all have our preference as to who would make the most exciting, nefarious, compelling red john...which is cool. you can see from my name who i love as red john ;-D and i still believe 100% that haffner is red john. and that stiles and visualize play a major part in rj's storyline. 

what i find exceedingly important is the title of the most disappointing episode "my blue heaven." because "blue heaven" is slang/street name for the drug LSD!! a hallucinogenic drug...*****************
just sayin i believe this to be a vital clue from heller that the blue heaven episode and all others eppys since then are a hallucination of jane's. i cant even express how much i hope this to be true and believe it is true. 

i feel that we still have yet to see what took place inside jane's where the suspects were gathered and it is yet to be revealed who is still alive and who is actually dead. that sheriff is red john episode was a joke...the whole thing was the absolute worst. so, if heller is as good as i think he is and has been f or most of the series, i believe we are in for the most exciting reveal and confrontation that we've been hoping for! Just being optimistic and hoping for a satisfying final rj reveal and personally i still believe red john is ray haffner!
i hope we all get a reveal very soon that we can be surprised and excited by so much so that we jump up and scream "yeah baby!!!!! wooo hoooo!!!!" at our tv's!! 

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A question more that a theory.

Do we accept that everything Bruno Heller has revealed publicly is valid, or is it more reasonable to believe that while some of the information is valid, some of it is most certainly misinformation.

I believe the latter.

It strikes me as odd, for example, that he would publicly confess to not settling on the identity of Red John until somewhere during Season 4 (or thereabouts) - even if this were true, what would the benefit be of revealing that?  Furthermore, does it make sense that he would have been clear on the existence of The Blake Association (and the role it would play), before knowing who Red John would be? (Tyger Tyger goes back to Season 2 if I'm not mistaken).

Maybe hope on my part, but RJ still feels like he's out there, I think he's Mashburn, but in any event, the first 8 episodes don't seem to hang even now.

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6x15 Haffner to Teresa and Grace: "There's a lot of powerful people that Jane's pissed off, not just Red John" 

Why do you guys he said that:

1. Haffner knew about the Blake association.

2. He said it because he cared about Lisbon and wanted her to be safe.

3. There's something we don't know yet.

4. They just wanted us to suspect more about that he was RJ.

Here are things I'd like them to explain:

1. Who was really McAllister and how he started the Blake association.
2.McAllister controlled the BA. So why did he recitate the poem to Jane? what did he want to        get doing so?
3.Why did Bob Kirkland kill Lennon without asking him for RJ?
4. The list.
5. Why didn't RJ kill Lisbon? I don't buy that the pigeons interrupted him. Ridiculous.
6. In which way were RJ and Visualize related?

Every explanation/comment will be appreciated. Sorry for my english, not my first language.

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Theory #17060 • By Seanmulvs
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Hilzyyyy: " It would be disappointing,but Reede Smith's name is a little bit more than "very similar"if somebody does'nt know (Roy Tagliaferro is the principal alias of Red John. The most common translation of Italian surname Tagliaferro is iron-cutter, word to word it would be cut-iron (Cutiron).But another translation of Tagliaferro is ... smith (short form of "blacksmith"), so Roy Tagliaferro could be translated in english into Red Smith. Also if you change the order of the letters of his name (Reede Smith) you can get "The Red Is Me". Also it's been noticed that his name could be derived from 'Reed' which also means 'Red' so Red John's name would be Reed(e) Smith.Also...He kinda looks too obvious,as red john's actor said,he thought he was just red herring."  
I think "The Red is Me" is a symbol of Smith's position.  As FBI, Smith is powerful.  Cho clashed with Smith and Mancini - over disrespecting Cho's superior.  The FBI is ranked above the CBI, and Smith is a tool - for Red John.  His name is suspicious, but he is too young.  However, McAllister is old enough.  The first killing happened on a Visualize farm.  Visualize seems like a group that a psychiatrist would join - because they have in depth (spiritual) gatherings.  You can learn about yourself - which could appeal to Wagner.  You can get : grim dawn red sun (extra 'L") from Dr. Linus Wagner,MD. 
Classical Mythology Linus is             a musician and poet, the inventor of melody and rhythm, of whom various stories are told: often  identified, through his untimely death, with the harvesting or withering of crops and vegetation.b.Also called Linus song. a dirge: originally sung in western Asia to mourn the death of crops being harvested, later sung to mourn the death of Linus or that of Adonis.  Linus is the doctor who started killing on the Visualize farm - back in 1988.  Linus is the Non-Existent Self-Proclaimed Pagan God of the cult Linii. Has the powers to bestow jobs onto members of his cult, making them carry out sacred duties and occult practices. These duties include giving Linus handjobs, blowjobs, getting F8$ked by Linus among other things. These divine practices are sacramental and must be carried out with pride. Any member of the Linii refusing these duties would be punished severely by blasphemous acts such as getting circumcised and castrated. He would then be raped and F8$ked in the ass before having his body seared with the holy cleansing flame. Finally, necrophilia and bukkake will be performed on his blazing corpse as the life force slowly seeps out of the zealot. Such is the punishment of one who offends Linus.Example 1: 
Adaptation of Julius Caesar, a play by Shakespeare 
Calpurnia: "I doth fear greatly for my lord’s safety. O Mighty Linus, I prithee, protect Caesar, O Caesar, thy pride beest thy downfall"

Example 2: 
Member of Linii: "O Mighty and Omnipotent Linus, grant me theLibido to last for 29 minutes. As I pray, provide me the sex drive I desire."
Red John like to tie up women for sexual pleasure.  Wagner is in prison, and he could make people his prison bitch - just like Linus.  He is making his army stronger than ever by making people (in prison) his prison bitch.  Dr. Linii Wagner MD can spell out id glad winner rim.  Rim is known as a circular like a group of followers ( a circle of friends has a rim). Id is reference to psychiatry and his psyche.  Glad is complacency and is modifying winner.  Linii is followers of Linus.  It could mean that only the followers of Linus are truly happy.  It sounds cultish, and that is exactly what Visualize is.  Red John's first kills were on a Visualize farm (back in 1988).  

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Lorelie martins is still alive!! Two points:

1: hard evidence - lorelie was shot in her left arm below her shoulder . She had a bandage on it when we last saw her alive. Then she left to go kill red john.
In the dvd she made she still had the bandage on her arm.
When we see her dead body however, her arm is uncovered and has not one little scratch on it !

2: metaphorical evidence - before the camera goes on her dead body you can see a poster of a "4 legged woman" and it says in big bold letters "ALIVE" !
Why would a poster of a 4 legged woman say alive ?
I believe the body was lorelie's sister who red john could of had on ice all these years.
He has done that before .

I make these points because the key to red john was that dvd. Something was very off about lorelies speech.
Making jane take out his list of 7 after she commended him from narrowing a list of thousands to a few names.
It seemed like the dvd was for Lisbon.

Other points:
Why was bertram told to tell jane the game is over right before Macalister says the same exact thing ?
More importantly , why was the game over ? After all these years red john decides right then at the church the game was over ? Jane was there for bertram? Weird.
Also as i said yesterday, patrick said it wasnt a game, i asked to play?
When did this happen? Janes family was murdered he didn't ask for anything !

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