Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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Patrick seems to be hiding something and he secretly plans to be doing.
Or I think so.
I don`t belive red john`s dead.

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I have a feeling that the people who kidnapped Grace is Jane! He set a trap for Rigsby. And back to the Red John episode, I think that Jane only "killed" the BA and the sheriff was the boss of the group. They killed like it was Red John and it made angry the real RJ.

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Well, Grey Water for me was the most interesting episode in a while!  Here are some things I noticed:

1.  Wayne said their daughter would be fine with Grace's Aunt (and Ben with his mother) -- still wondering just WHO is Grace's family?!  

2.  Jane dares old team to go with first instincts on recent killings:

Cho picks -- Tommy Volker
Wayne -- John Hutten
Grace -- Donny Culpepper
Lisbon -- Haibach//Linus Wagner

What's interesting is that JANE'S pick ISN'T mentioned -- but I wonder if it's JASON COOPER --- there has to be a Visualize connection:  we KNOW Stiles and Haffner are alive, right?

3.  Jane doesn't greet Grigsby as warmly as you'd expect.  Then, Cho hugs them, and Jane looks at Cho strangely. So, question is:  WHY is this moment strangely perfunctory and strained when it should be a warm welcoming?

4.  Jane says to Agent Fischer: "Where did the wheel of death stop today?"  This is curious because it makes me think about the WHEEL theme in this show that goes easily unnoticed -- 1) Wayne, Wagner and Wainwright all mean makers of wheels, and 2) Jane's wife's family ran carnival Ferris Wheel and 3) Jane's father took Jane up on Ferris Wheel to force him to practice his eye for detail -- "wheels turning" is also a mentalist thing, a mind never sleeping, never stopping

When Wayne stands in front of the bar "El Lazo" [which means "Loop" in English] -- he's standing next to TWO WAGON WHEELS.  There are also several motorcycles lined up curbside -- just noticed there were a lot of wheels in that shot.

5.  Does anyone else think that it seems like Wayne ALREADY knows what's going to happen?  And when he calls Grace -- the way he said "You know I love you, don't you?"  Did he KNOW she was going to be abducted?  

I'm now wondering if he set up the break in at his house in the beginning.  What was weird about that was the shooter cocked his gun, giving full warning that he was there.  Sorry -- if you want to really shoot someone, you're not going to give them a head start to get away.

6.  I think Wayne choose Hutten to distract from his possible connection with Hutten, and the whole finding him with a girlfriend in bed -- that was VERY coincidental that on the way to a bar, Wayne just happens to spot his car?  Now that Hutten is discounted, Wayne could potentially use him.

7.  Preview of "White as the Driven Snow":  Jane is talking about Haibach to Wayne but think Jane is using Haibach to make someone [Wayne?] think he's off their trail.  

Wow, Wayne feels really suspicious!

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I've just finished watching the first two seasons of Nikita. For those of you who don't know, the main villain was a guy called "Percy" played by Xander Berkeley. Before The Mentalist I had no idea who Berkeley was, and his portrayal of McAllister didn't impress me at all. But now I can see what talent went to waste in The Mentalist. I defy anyone to see the first two seasons of Nikita and still claim that Berkeley was incapable of portraying Red John. He was the best choice for the role. His portrayal of Percy was so brilliant that it made me suspect it was what persuaded the producers of The Mentalist to cast him as Red John in the first place. There are bits and pieces of Nikita on YouTube, but they don't convey the full package, you need to see the show completely to understand what I'm saying. It's like their portrayal of Red John was a failed attempt to resurrect Percy. I don't know what went on behind the scenes, but I do know Berkeley could've made a perfect Red John had there been a better storyline.

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If anyone wants to get inside the crazy mind of Wayne Rigsby watch the two episodes with his dad in them as well as the high school reunion episode .
I know someone will argue and say just because someone had a bad childhood does not mean they will be serial killers ..but Rigsby had it bad as a kid and the writers wanted us to know that so it matters.
His dad beat him and messed with his head. "Weakness is in the eyes boy" which reminded me of the red john smiley face bleeding from the eyes.
His dad uses a small knife just like red john. And when Rigsby watched his dad wip out the knife you could see Wayne's eyes fill up with fear. The apple does not fall far from the tree.

I know its hard to prove that Wayne was actually Derrick Logan but it may be true.
Firstly Rigsby made GVP take his place in that episode .
Rigsby was overly curious about what it was like there .
He knew Gabe Nylands secret flight patterns that were private !
He looked like Derrick Logan .
Derick Logan was bound and tied up with black tape by a popular girl.
Red john bounds and ties women the SAME EXACT WAY!
Red John is basically killing the same female bully over and over again in a sense ..
The story goes that Derrick Logan committed suicide but maybe he joined Visualize and got clean.
Again, its all speculation but dam good speculation.

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remember the episode when rigsby gets hypnotized and jane says that he is a violent person inside if he is acting that way under hypnosis? or something like that.. i'm sure someone on here can supply us with a better dialog in the comments..
well, anyway, i always think about that episode when people say he's too dumb to be red john or incapable.. i think he's totally capable, definitely physically and quite possibly mentally too.. it still brings be back to heller's comment about red john's reveal being comparable to keyser soze from the usual suspects.. it would be an absolute perfect comparability.

which then brings me to van pelt. remember in the red john episode after lisbon and the team were arrested and sitting in the car with abbot.. van pelt was banging her head into the window like a lunatic on an episode of cops. and rigsby was acting out as well.. cho and lisbon were as calm as possible given the sitiation but van pelt and rigsby just COULD NOT accept not being present with jane.. always found that interesting..

am i the only one?

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I think the first man in GVP & Rigsy's house could be Ron (tough body + eyes), and the second one in GVP's hotel room could be Ray Haffner (tall and slim).




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