Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
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Reede Smith
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Ray Haffner
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Gale Bertram
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Brett Partridge
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Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
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Theory #2291 • By Florin1234
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Think at that.... why know red john fron rosalinda description ... but i think rosalinda is van pelt sister because the look very similari... we know she has a sister that have a trauma and she didn t speak about her .... kristina frye escape when van pelt was with her !!!!!!  here i think is van pelt voice : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns_DWnqrEdI ...... she was living on a farm !!!! that 2 murders that red john make at the farm !!!! every one is watching for a man ... but RedJohn is a woman ... that are the things that comes now in my mind ... but i think it s more ... 

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I have watched this show in it's entirety over and over and over again. Fine, ok, I'm obsessed. Who the heck is Red John? And do the producers and writers know that they are driving us nuts? Probably. Here is my analysis of Red John.

1. For everyone guessing it's Patrick Jane, are you kidding? Give me a break - that would make the worst show ever. This show is about Patrick Jane's struggle for redemption. The irony that even though he would never kill his family, he feels his actions have killed them. His endless pursuit to do good and redeem himself from his past sins. Can you imagine getting to the end of the show and finding that Patrick Jane is Red John? Most depressing show ever. I mean, really.

2. "He is mar" - I believe was an unfinished "He is many". This is before we know that Red John has disciples, literally, everywhere. Foreshadowing for the neverending list of disciples and followers.

3. Throughout the show we have these Visualize cult members who pop in and out. I believe that this is also foreshadowing for the type of person Red John is. In Episode 5.13 "Red Barn" We learn some pretty creepy things about Visualize's first years and the fact that there were some unfortunate members. I believe that this means that Red John is a Visualize member gone rogue. He has the believes of Visualize, the powers of manipulation and hypnotization, and yet he has his own agenda. 

4. I don't think it is Bret Stiles. I mean, hey.. he could be right? But I think it's too easy. Bret's been helping Patrick, with the escape of Lorelai, with Kristina Frye's address, I think that he has channels to get this information because of the Visualize connections. In Episode 2.23 Red Sky in the Morning, Bret Stiles says "I know more than you or Red John could ever know". I believe he said this because he was once Red John's "master" in Visualize, before he went rogue. 

5. Always remember the physical description that we get from Rosaline Harker when thinking about who Red John is. He is just under six feet, has short straight hair, is neither soft, nor overly muscular, and loved to hear her play the piano, particularly Bach. She says that Red John has strong, rough hands. This rules out suspects like Gale Bertram, JJ LaRoche, any WOMEN (good grief guys.. Van Pelt? come on....).

6. I think that having Red John be the forensics investigator would bring the show full circle. He's been around the entire time, and he's always present at every "Red John impersonator" crime scene. He fits the physical description, and Jane abhors him, more than other characters on the show. Plus he's super creepy. Who doesn't want a creepy character for this role?

That's my long winded theory. And good gosh darnit I want to know what happened to Kristina Frye. I also want to know who Timothy Carter was and what the heck he had to do with anything. 

Oh, and I also think Van Pelt is either hypnotized or a secret member of visualize. She will play some kind of role in all of this but against her better judgement. But that's just a guess ;)

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I am not really sure...

What if Lorelei has never met the real Red John? What if she has just met another one of his minions?  We really don't know for sure.

Why are people adding people in as suspects that don't matter? i.e. Grace's dad (what does he have to do with ANYTHING), Lisbon's youngest brother...

Are people so desperate for a solution that they will include characters that have NEVER been on the show? Lisbon's youngest brother has never even been mentioned by name...come on people...really?

I love the idea of speculation but stick to stuff that makes a modicum of sense...

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(This is NOT a theory of RJ)

In S05E05 Red Dawn, when Hannigan moved to another unit, there was a quick scene with the profile of GVP. I tried getting the text out of her bio, so here's what I have (some words are unknown, referred to as ???? because the text was so small to read):

"Van Pelt is from a small farming town in Iowa. She tends to be overly sensitive at times, but is very intelligent. Van Pelt works with Det. Chillings most of the time, but occasionally works with the FBI or SFPD. She is the gold standard of the team, having started her job in the year 2000. Grace's cousin is supposedly a psychic, causing her to sometimes argue about matters of faith. In the case of 788728-009, the suspect made a remark about Van Pelt's character, stating "...you're deeply depressed and emotionally shut down...because of a trauma in your past that you've never spoken with anyone...ever...even yourself..." which Van Pelt's facial expression seems to confirm. In the case 459959-001 she is ???? for ???? due to a killer who is killing red haired people, leading her to being in an uncomfortable situation"

- The psychic was her cousin Yolanda
- The trauma referred to is probably Van Pelt's sister which she lied about to Rigsby (S02E10 Throwing Fire)
- The serial killer part is very interesting

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Theory #2280 • By mycolorisRED
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i want to give credit to somebody in this forum but i dont remember his name....there is a hidden message in the 7 suspects video at the beginning and the end which led me to believe teresa lisbon might be red john.the 7 suspects video i had to use the program vlc and watch the video at the lowest possible speed here's what i found and please help in finding the message maybe i missed something.i will do my best as it i is very hard to explain if you dont watch the video the way i'm telling you...because it uses capital letters,small letters in different sizes and the location of the letters might be important....
at the beginning of the video we see this.words
re  i hu h
RED JOHN    RE
NOTORIOUS   NOTO
MURDER       MU
UNKNOWN     UN
TEACUP      TE
CLOAKED      CL
HANDSHAKE     AN
SHOWMAN       SH
DREAD          D
COLD            C
SERIAL KILLER   KI
 but almost at the end they keep repeating some words BUT they take away letters highlighted....or they add letters here is the list
ARTIST red
STRAWBERRIES red
SCENT       JoHn
DREAD     j hu
SHOWMAN    h
SIGNS
VISUALIZE
SERIAL KILLER
NOTORIOUS
MURDER
UNKNOWN    NK
TEACUP     E
CLOAKED   LOA
HANDSHAKE NDS
HE HAS A LIST     LIST
COLD       red
STRABERRIES red
SCENT joHn
DREAD  htu
SHOWMAN   h
SIGNS
VISUALIZE
SERIAL KILLER
NOTORIOUS
MURDER
UNKNOWN
TEACUP
CLOAKED
HANDSHAKE   ND
SHADOWS   HA
STRAWBERRIES AWBE
SERIAL KILLER    ALK
AND BY THE END OF THE SEASON    SEAS
HANDSHAKE    red
showman red
GENIUS   JoHn
cold i hu
LEFT    h
right
STRAWBERRIES
SCENT
DREAD
SHOWMAN
SIGNS
VISUALIZE
SERIAL KILLER
NOTORIOUS
MURDER
UNKNOWN
TEACUP
CLOAKED   CL
EVIL E
HANDSHAKE  AND
SHADOWS   SHA
IT WILL COME DOWN    WIL DON

the video is only 2;30 minutes long and it took me forever to watch the whole video but it was worth it.i haven't been able to put it together,,,just wanted to let you guys know about it so you guys can help.here's what i find very interesting....notice the words in capital letters and how some at the end are small letters...some have the word red at the end.in one ocasion the word SHOWMAN in between the letters WMAN is the word red...red woman?walter man?vanpelt has red hair..also as soon as they say it will come down to seven suspects they point to teresa and then patrick....but notice how teresa seems to have an evil look on her face.and patrick a face like he just read teresa and he cant believe his conclusion.i will post my results after i review this clues.



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as i was reading some of the theories here i realized something.Red john might not be one man....but an organization...like visualize.i have reason to believe there's quite a few Rj's...let me explain.when Rj shoots the filmakers he uses his right hand...when he is drinking tea with rosalind uses his left hand therefore akes perfect sense that timothy carter was one red john,rosalind knew one red john which is roy taliaferro.rebeca knew a different red john,lorelie martin knew a different red john .when red john kills the first victim and we see him fighting with the guy(i cant remember his last name)he has a very different body,he seems smaller or thinner than when he killes the teenage filmakers. therefore we are not actually looking for red john but who is the mastermind behind it all.in the season 4 finale the mastermind could of put a different Rj to talk to patrick in order to fool patrick and us he mentioned the name of a street in the area where it took place...therefore we tought Rj was in oneplace when in reality he/she could've been in front of us and next to patrick the whole time...i'm willing to bet 2 horses.5 cows and a chicken that theresa lisbon is the mastermind behind the organization called  Red John.

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Theory #2276 • By ILikePie
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Well here are some of my thoughts.

Personally I think that Sarah may be part of red Johns "crew".
I think that possibly Wayne's baby is really Red Johns baby so he can have some leverage on the CBI somehow. Please don't rage at me. LOL

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