Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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Not a theory. Just some sort of question.

In the The Red Barn episode, in which we learn Red John has some connection with Visualize, I noticed something odd. The timeline for the killing is kind of confusing. 

Patrick talks to the priest who was a former Visualize episode about the smiley face painted on the barn. He says one of the Visualize guys (one of the 2 victims) told him some kid drew it and, when asked what it meant, he said "what does anything mean?"

But the guy was one of the victims... so why was the smiley face painted on the barn if he was still alive? Red John always paints the faces after killing someone, using their blood, and making sure it's the first thing you see when you enter the room. But this killing doesn't add up: the smiley face wasn't easy to spot and it was painted before anyone was killed.

Also, in the scene where the mother and her daughter go to the barn and see one of the Visualize guys with a gun, the smiley face is already there.

That means, either:

a) Red John painted the face (using someone else's blood or just paint) beforehand and then killed the 2 Visualize guys in the secret basement, and was hiding there when the woman and the daughter went there. Maybe this was to mark his territory, like he did at Rosalind's house in the season 1 finale.

b) The face was painted by someone other than Red John (and maybe, just maybe, that's how he decided to adopt that signature) but it was indeed Red John who committed the murders.

c) It wasn't Red John at all.

What do you guys think? I guess a is the most likely answer, but with the sketchy timeline, anything's possible.

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MY THEORY IS BASED ON THE SEVEN SUSPECTS JANE FOUND OUT... I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE IS RJ BUT I GUESS IT'S BRETT. WHY THIS THEORY ? BECAUSE I BELIEVE PJ IS RIGHT AND  ONE OF THEM MUST BE RJ. WHEN RJ DISCOVERED ABOUT HANDSHAKE  HE SPIED (PHOTOS) PJ'S ROOM AND ANALYSED JANE'S DATA THIS WAY HE COULD CONCLUDE THE SAME THING AND BASED ON THAT RECORDED THE VIDEO JUST TO OUTWIT PATRICK...

IF SOMEONE SAY THE VIDEO WAS RECORDED BEFORE THAT I'D SAY HE RECORDED MORE THAN ONE AND USED THE RIGHT ONE

AND THERE'S A SMALL CHANCE THAT JANE KNOWS THAT, BECAUSE HE HAD A SMALL TRICK ON THE DOOR (PLASTIC STRAW)

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i am not saying kirkland is redjohn. he is my second red john wanna be. my first is cbi ron... but has anyone noticed in episode 19 of the 5th season, when kirkland was fixing all the photographs his men got from PJ's head quarters, he was drinking same cocktail PJ was drinking in season 4 episode 23; when he was asked by red john, via that girl, if he has given up already...

they say that PJ and RJ are very much alike...

i focus on small details... i dont know if this is significant or they are just trying to mislead us again...

this is my first post.. im from the philippines... been actively reading all your posts here since last year...

well i love how this show tickles out mind...

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This is not really a theory. Just an opinion I have.

I think Kirkland works for RJ. So Kirkland got all the information that jane had in his room and created a historic of happenings in his own home to investigate them. But Patrick made some changes on his investigation, so when Kirkland guys entered Patricks room to stole information, they stole wrong data, wrong information that Kirkland will investigate. That's why Patrick was happy when he noticed someone entered the room.

So now Patrick knows that RJ will know that he is investigating all RJ crimes and creating a list of suspects. The thing is, Patrick is one step ahead because the information that they stole from him is wrong.

So Kirkland made the investigation with the information he got, and created a list of 7 suspects to give to RJ. The thing is RJ will have a different list from Patrick Jane.

So what I think is Patrick Jane really has a list of 7 suspects, but with different persons. And I think he acts like he is frustrated and breaks the CD, so nobody will notice that he is ahead of RJ. Not even Lisbon. I don't know if this makes sense at all. Just an opinion.

And for me, RJ is Bret Partridge or Mineli or CBI Ron...

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Theory #2947 • By teared
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why has Lorelei not got damage to her left arm or a bandage??? wasn't she shot there? answers please!
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The mentalist 5x16 last scene(lorelei killed by red john)  1.26 min

How did they prove it was her????

Could it be a doppleganger??

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why has Lorelei not got damage to her left arm or a bandage??? wasn't she shot there? answers please!
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The mentalist 5x16 last scene(lorelei killed by red john)

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Just an observation, not really accusing Brett Partrige.

When the other guy says

"I've always wanted to for one of the famous killers"

BP: He's been laying low for years, working through friends and proxies.

Guy: He killed just recently, didn't he?

BP: That was an internal issue. Lorelei Martins was one of his own people. Doesn't count.

If he is RJ, it is like he is trying to justify his actions. It is like he is trying to explain it was just an internal thing and he hasn't been killing innocent people for a long time.

Well, internal or not, it counts! 
Murder is murder. And only a killer would come with such a sentence, saying it does not count and trying to justify the murder.

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