Who is Red John?

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List of seven

Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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Rosalind Harker is a big big clue... Among the suspects, who do you think would have slept with her... Who's face do you see?? 

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I think that evebody is forgeting how that shows works. Every case ends with the less obvious caracter being the killer. The father, the son, the babysitter... So, in my opinion, we could discard people like Stiles and Kirkland; But do not deny the involviment with RJ

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I think Ray Haffner makes the most sense. He has all the things going for him that Gale Bertram does (access to CBI, moving in a similar orbit to Jane, etc) plus he is a member of Visualize. Visualize is important because I think Stiles is actually a bigger problem than Red John.

I have a theory that Red John is a sub villain to Stiles. Stiles has a broader, national scope. He spoke like he had a friendly or paternal relationship to Red John back in season, what 2 or 3? Visualize indoctrination would give Red John the skills we know he has in manipulation, and frankly--cult building. Visualize could help him control his impulses. If this series continues past the killing or capture of Red John, I think Visualize will spit out another demon, or possibly several, until Stiles himself is neutralized.  

So, I think Haffner is Red John. He has Visualize training, CBI training, and is a good looking, successful man building power and influence.

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Sheriff McAllister, in his one episode, nearly abducts Van Pelt and seems very threatening and capable of being a serial killer.  If I had time (and knew CA geography better) I would go back and figure out where the Red John murders were in relation to where McAllister is sheriff. 

As for all the discussion of Red John having great contacts and influence, I believe this is a misdirect.  Red John was just a smart serial killer until he killed PJ's family, then be seems to have become more and more influential.  I believe that Brett Stiles is using Red John to get at PJ.  Brett is a great need to control others, and to use them to his own ends.  Ever since PJ came across Brett's path, Brett has desired to control PJ.  Brett is using all his influence, sometimes to Red John's benefit, sometimes to his own benefit, to gain control of PJ.  This is a Moby Dick story where PJ and Brett are both Ahab and the whale.

The other characters who seem to be part of Red John's minion (he is many) are actually being manipulated by Brett either directly or indirectly to serve Brett's purposes directly, and sometimes Red John's indirectly. 

This theory will work with any of the lesser characters being Red John and Brett pulling the strings, so Partridge could also be Red John in this scenario, however, I like picking McAllister because he is the least likely suspect.

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I'm not going to hazard a guess, but offer a few points that people may have not thought too deeply about.

Bob Kirkland works for homeland security and, as witnessed in one episode, is in league with Bertram and member/s of the FBI. This leads me to believe that Red John is not just a serial killer, but presents an issue if he is caught by the wrong people, including CBI, and most certainly Jane. Red Johns resources and information also hint that he could have more information that cannot be revealed. I believe Bertram and Kirkland can be ruled out, and are acting as a third investing party for their own ends. Also, there has to be more to Red John knowing Janes happy memory, such as knowing him, or just of him, before the events leading to the start of the show took place. In what capacity I can't be sure, but Heller is very precise in his planning and I don't think these loose ends just happened by chance. I therefore think that season sixes main focus will be on the full backstory of Red Johns connection to Jane, as well as Homeland securities invested interest in him. As Heller said that anyone as Red John is going to be a disappointment I think he plans to offset that by having a great and much deeper backstory to Red John, and his connection to Patrick Jane.

If I was pushed for a guess I would go for Sheriff mcallister. I won't list any evidence to support this, Ii just feel that if he were any of the organisations (visualise/Haffner FBI/Smith CBI/Partridge) subordinates they wouldn't be able to act as freely as they do, and if it were the leader of the organisation (visualise/Styles CBI/Bertam Homeland Security/Kirkland) then it would be too easy to explain away. Also, he is the only one out of the seven that isn't in a high position of power. He is Sheriff, but I don't put that in the same league as the rest.

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Well, I won't list the reasons which leads me to believe that Partridge is RJ, because others already did it even better that I could.

I want to draw your attention to two interesting and suspicious points:

1. Someone possibly have said it already, but in the beggining of seasons finale Lisbon shows up with her hand injuried and not a single explanation is given. She just said that hurts in the night before: the night of the murder. Is Lisbon a RJs accomplice?

2. What if the list is fake and was previously prepared by Jane? Do you remember when he puts a stick in the door? He could have prepared the entire board, knowing that RJs would have access (by a CBI helper or by Kirkland - even if he's not a Red Johns guy or RJ himself, he could have been spied) and, in this way, make RJ thinks that have advantage when in fact is the opposite, because Patrick would know that RJs just thinks that he restricted the suspicion to that 7, however, he restricted to a list even shorter or have anothers extra-suspects.

The thing is, based on the idea of Jane having a different list than that one cited by RJ:
1. If RJ is someone in the supposed fake list, Patrick could be closer than Red John thinks (thinking that the real list is shorter)
2. If RJ is someone out of the supposed fake list*, Jane makes RJ feels relieved deceiving him and making more clear the far RJs can reach

* I know Heller said that RJ is someone on the 7 of Jane's list, however, he may have...lied. I guess he did it before, isn't he?


Anyone support this line of reasoning, Jane's being clever than the series make it looks, dodging including RJ, playing the fool when his suspect list is revealed by him?

(PS: Sorry for the english, I'm brasilian and not fluent, but did my best to make it as clear as I could, hope it's not confuse)

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I can't wait for the amount of butthurt there will be when partridge isn't red john.

The amount of whining will be even greater than when Mashburn wasn't on the
seven suspect list.

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