Did anybody else noticed that Lorelai stressed very much the name of raymond haffner when she was reading the list of seven (more than the other six ones)?
I really hope that Haffner is NOT Red John!
Did anybody else noticed that Lorelai stressed very much the name of raymond haffner when she was reading the list of seven (more than the other six ones)?
I really hope that Haffner is NOT Red John!
Patrick Jane is not Red John. Just accept the fact that Jane is not Red John. Do not be an ignorant dog. Bruno Heller already said it in the interview.
Bruno Heller also says that the list is real. Do not try to twist the fact that the list was fake and that kind of bullshit. Some people are just butthurt that Mashburn are not Red John. You deserve it because you being too stupid to realise the truth. Mashburn is too tall to be Red John.
I can tolerate a theory if it is one of the people inside the 7 list of suspect. It pisses me off to see idiots mentioning Cho, Rigsby, Lisbon or Van Pelt to be Red John. They dont watch all the episodes and they say as if it was a fact. Read all the evidences and clues before making an impossible theory.
Here are things that retarded people says about Brett Partridge:
Brett Partridge is too young to be Red John
Do your research will you? The actor who plays Partridge is older than the actor who plays Patrick Jane. You can make theory that Jane is Red John but cannot approve the theory that Partridge is Red John? Where is the logic in there?!?
Brett Partridge is too dumb to be Red John
How do you know he is dumb? How can he be dumb if he is a FORENSIC EXPERT? A dumb people would not be investigating crime. Have you ever think about that?
Brett Partridge is too obvious to be Red John
Just because he is obvious, doesnt mean he cant be Red John... If he is too obvious to be Red John, than why are you idiots still making a theory about Kirkland, Stiles and Haffner? Arent they obvious too?!?
Brett Partridge does not have the resources to be Red John
How do you guys know that he does not have the resources?!? Did you guys have the evidence that Brett Partridge does not have the resources to be Red John? You guys just making stupid assumption just to piss people off.
Brett Partridge is clearly old enough and fit all the characteristic to be Red John. He acts silly to throw people off.
I dont care if one of the other seven is Red John. I still enjoy watching mentalist. I just have low tolerance of bullshit. I cannot stand when people deny the fact that Red John can be Partridge.
Rosalind Harker is a big big clue... Among the suspects, who do you think would have slept with her... Who's face do you see??
I think that evebody is forgeting how that shows works. Every case ends with the less obvious caracter being the killer. The father, the son, the babysitter... So, in my opinion, we could discard people like Stiles and Kirkland; But do not deny the involviment with RJ
I think Ray Haffner makes the most sense. He has all the things going for him that Gale Bertram does (access to CBI, moving in a similar orbit to Jane, etc) plus he is a member of Visualize. Visualize is important because I think Stiles is actually a bigger problem than Red John.
I have a theory that Red John is a sub villain to Stiles. Stiles has a broader, national scope. He spoke like he had a friendly or paternal relationship to Red John back in season, what 2 or 3? Visualize indoctrination would give Red John the skills we know he has in manipulation, and frankly--cult building. Visualize could help him control his impulses. If this series continues past the killing or capture of Red John, I think Visualize will spit out another demon, or possibly several, until Stiles himself is neutralized.
So, I think Haffner is Red John. He has Visualize training, CBI training, and is a good looking, successful man building power and influence.
Sheriff McAllister, in his one episode, nearly abducts Van Pelt and seems very threatening and capable of being a serial killer. If I had time (and knew CA geography better) I would go back and figure out where the Red John murders were in relation to where McAllister is sheriff.
As for all the discussion of Red John having great contacts and influence, I believe this is a misdirect. Red John was just a smart serial killer until he killed PJ's family, then be seems to have become more and more influential. I believe that Brett Stiles is using Red John to get at PJ. Brett is a great need to control others, and to use them to his own ends. Ever since PJ came across Brett's path, Brett has desired to control PJ. Brett is using all his influence, sometimes to Red John's benefit, sometimes to his own benefit, to gain control of PJ. This is a Moby Dick story where PJ and Brett are both Ahab and the whale.
The other characters who seem to be part of Red John's minion (he is many) are actually being manipulated by Brett either directly or indirectly to serve Brett's purposes directly, and sometimes Red John's indirectly.
This theory will work with any of the lesser characters being Red John and Brett pulling the strings, so Partridge could also be Red John in this scenario, however, I like picking McAllister because he is the least likely suspect.
I'm not going to hazard a guess, but offer a few points that people may have not thought too deeply about.
Bob Kirkland works for homeland security and, as witnessed in one episode, is in league with Bertram and member/s of the FBI. This leads me to believe that Red John is not just a serial killer, but presents an issue if he is caught by the wrong people, including CBI, and most certainly Jane. Red Johns resources and information also hint that he could have more information that cannot be revealed. I believe Bertram and Kirkland can be ruled out, and are acting as a third investing party for their own ends. Also, there has to be more to Red John knowing Janes happy memory, such as knowing him, or just of him, before the events leading to the start of the show took place. In what capacity I can't be sure, but Heller is very precise in his planning and I don't think these loose ends just happened by chance. I therefore think that season sixes main focus will be on the full backstory of Red Johns connection to Jane, as well as Homeland securities invested interest in him. As Heller said that anyone as Red John is going to be a disappointment I think he plans to offset that by having a great and much deeper backstory to Red John, and his connection to Patrick Jane.
If I was pushed for a guess I would go for Sheriff mcallister. I won't list any evidence to support this, Ii just feel that if he were any of the organisations (visualise/Haffner FBI/Smith CBI/Partridge) subordinates they wouldn't be able to act as freely as they do, and if it were the leader of the organisation (visualise/Styles CBI/Bertam Homeland Security/Kirkland) then it would be too easy to explain away. Also, he is the only one out of the seven that isn't in a high position of power. He is Sheriff, but I don't put that in the same league as the rest.