Who is Red John?

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List of seven

Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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I would like to throw two items out to the floor for theories and discussion:

1.  "He is Mar"  Could it actually spell something else and it just appears to look like the letters he is mar because it was scrawled by a dying and delirious man.  What else could it say?  Look at a still photo of it.  The H could be an 11.  The M looks suspect.  The r could be a p in the making.  Any theories?

2.  Has Heller actually given the viewers enough clues to solve the mystery of Red John or is it just guesswork at this point?

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So, I`ve come with a new theory. If someone asks me who I think Red John is the first name that comes to my mind is Bret Partridge. Why? Well, mostly because of his voice, which is, actually, the only thing that could make us believe that he is RJ.
If I decide to think about it and examinate the evidences, like the CBI does, I might have a different opinion.
First, today I took another look on the 7 suspects list and I noticed something interesting: all of the suspects, except Bret Stiles, work with the police. So it seems like 6 of them have something in common, while Stiles has his own business and religion. Now, if you think about it, in the last episode of season 4, when Jane speaks with Red John in the limousine, RJ says that he found out about Lisbon and Rigsby not being dead when the FBI did. "I have a friend in the FBI", he said, so this could mean that he is not the one working for the police. For some reason, I generally trust in what Red John says to Jane.
Then, it is very strange for me the fact that Rosalind never said how old RJ is. Even if she is blind, and even if he used a disguise, the women slept with him, for God`s sake. It`s not very difficult to figure out how old is the man you`re having sex with. So why didn`t she mention his age? Is it because that would made a difference? Except for Bertran, McAllister and Stiles, the other 4 suspects are in their 40s, so if Roy would be older than 50, that would reduce the number of suspects at 3.
Least but not last, in the last episode of season 1, the one when Rosalind appears for the first time, the cop who is RJ`s accomplice, sherif Hardy, says that "Red John was a friend of his father". Sherif Hardy is at least 35 years old, so his father should have been at least 53-55 years if he were alive. This is why I can`t imagine Bret Partridge being friends with someone this old. I know it could be possible, but I just can`t imagine that.
So, in conclusion, my guess is Bret Stiles. Based on what I already said and on the other clues (he has intelligence, he is a mentalist, too, he has money, power, he is experienced, has his own religion, and seem the type of person who would listen to Bach, play the piano) I think that he is the son of a bitch. More than that, on season 4, he was trying to make Van Pelt join his Visualize club.
We already know that Red John has a thing for redheads, right?
The only thing that doesn`t fit is the voice, which I think is Bret Partridge`s. Of course, Red John is smart enough to put a different voice when talking to Jane, so this is not necessarily a clue.

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I've been pondering the "He is mar" from season 1 episode 11. I see theories that it could be "He is married" or that the r is really an n, and that it would have said "He is many", but there are other possibilities as well. And "married" isn't really a clue to anything. I also don't think Red John is a group. Serial killers don't share credit.

I think "mar" could have been intended as "marred" or "marked", meaning the victim had time to inflict a visible injury of some sort.  It may not be an r or an n at all, looking at the way the letter was formed (as the victim was dying), it could have been intended as c, d, e, f, g, i, l, m, o, p, q, or t. Going through a dictionary led me to eliminate some of these letters (other than as proper names), which left me with the above, marred and marked, plus martyr, maimed, maniac, and mad. Can any of the seven suspects on Janes list (confirmed by Heller) be eliminated or singled out as more likely under this theory?

Assuming it was marred or marked, we haven't seen McAllister since season 1, and we didn't meet Smith until season 5, which would have given him time to get plastic surgery. On the other side, Kirkland asked "Do you recognize me?" which could be a suggestion that he HAS had plastic surgery. These 3 can't be eliminated based on this assumption. Can Bertram, Partridge, Ardiles, or Haffner be eliminated?

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I was watching the season 4 finale the other day and something else that points to bertram came to me...We never recieved any kind of closure on how wainright was obducted by red john/ his accomplices....I believe this is done intentionally....ASK YOURSELF THIS.....Of the 7 suspects....which one of them could possibly isolate wainwright from the cbi and pull him out into a limousine?  stiles? no way, Partirdge? are u kidding, Hafner? maybe but probably not, Reede Smith? na, Mcallister? not even a chance, and Kirkland wasnt even around at that point....SO that leaves Bertram......The chi director is probably the only person AT ALL let alone on the list of suspects.... that could have gotten wainright out of the cbi and into his own complany and then tied up and eventually shot....


Its a perfect plan to abduct luther for a couple reasons....

A) hes not going to be able to talk to jane with his mouth ductapted

B) The CBI/FBI will shoot thru the window if RJ and company lose the shootout.....killing wainright instantly


I never really understood why they didnt investigate wainrights abduction more, but now it is all starting to make sense!!!

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The guy under is right!

when did Jane and Brett Partridge shake hands?

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One question when did Jane and Brett Partridge shake hands?

I have been rewatching the whole mentalist, NEVER saw they shook hands same with Reede Smith, they never shook hands aswell.

So why would Jane put them on the list if they never shook hands?

Is this list the real deal? If it is real like bruno heller says, why would Jane put them up on the list? We all know that Jane saw the video before Teresa, Maybe Jane got another list, that is he haven't show'd to anyone, and just found the pics of the 7 that red john named for him.


Bruno Heller said the list was real for sure, he might lie, or Jane might have and 2nd list for himself with maybe 2-3 diff names on so if 1 list is real, it has to be jane's becouse of the hand shakes, but owell I don't know.

What do you guys think?






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Just a thought....could Robert Kirkland be Miranda's boyfriend? Maybe he is after rj himself for killing miranda and asked jason lennon if he knew who he was because jason would have seen him when he took miranda away.

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