PJ IS NOT RJ!!!!!
cuz in last S5 episode, before he gots the message about murder he is sleeping all the time.
PJ IS NOT RJ!!!!!
cuz in last S5 episode, before he gots the message about murder he is sleeping all the time.
Suspect: Patrick Jane's father (played by Nick Chinlund)
Reasons:
He is the only one who could know that Eileen was a childhood memory for Patrick (this to me is the most critical clue)
He was a conman who taught Patrick how to think like one, and can thus get into his mind
He may have hated Patrick for abandoning him and would resent his new family enough to deprive him. Also, explains RJ's obsession with Patrick
Against:
Not on the list- but the list could be a red herring despite Heller's insistence (similar to Brad Whitfield masquerading as RJ)
Too old- would be in his 60s (but so is Stiles)
Not a theory, just a thought : "He is mar..." means "He is married .... and yet he is with a hooker therefore he deserves to die !" written by Redjohn himself..
Why did PJ ask BP "You don't think it is RJ do you Mr Partridge ?" I think PJ already knows who RJ is but plans to capture all his accomplices first.
Lets look into the 7 suspects in more detail:
1) Brett Stiles has many charasteristics to be Red John. He is manipulative, powerful, wealthy and very intellgient. He runs his own cult and has a lot of followers. However, I would think he is too old to be considered a "kid" in ellison farm in 1988. Besides, i would not think that the head of Visualize would be working there anyway. Physically, I do not think he is strong enough to "overpower his victims" as Red John does.For me, his role in helping Lorelei Martins escape convinced me that he is NOT red john. Lorelei could have so easily reveild much more about RJ and possibly even his identity, especially when Lennon was shot. I would not think Red John would have taken that risk to expose himself.
2) Reed Diamond has been antagonistic towards Jane but does not match the physical description of RJ at all nor does he have the power and influence to be a flawless serial killer. The fact that he and Gabe Mancini failed to solve the hotel case in the season 5 episode 1 suggests that he does not have the intellect either.
3) Sheriff Hardy again would not be a "kid" during the Ellison farm incident, he is simply too old and was beaten several times in rock paper scissors by jane which RJ would not allow to happen. His failure to solve the case in Red Hair and Silver Tape suggests that he does not have the mental capacity to be RJ.
4) Ray Haffner is a high ranking member of the CBI and seems to be reasonably smart. He was also a member of Visualize. However, he was easily misled in the season 4 episode 1 (I think the episode about the fitness center) which RJ would not allow to happen. Also, RJ would also not have accidently revealed that he was a member of Visualize as Ray Haffner did, remember, the show has told us that RJ does NOT make any mistakes.
5) Gale Bertrand is the head of the CBI and hence does have a lot of power and influence as Red John would. He is also spoken about John Blake's poem that RJ also did in the season 2 finale. He also does not like Jane.However, Gale Bertrand would not ask Jane's help in poker if he was Rj. RJ is just to egotistic and full of himself. He also does not match the physical description of RJ that Rosalind Harker told us since he is too fat, bald and probably too tall as well. Also, Gale was one of the suspects in season 3 to have murdered todd Johnson. If Gale was RJ, then he would have murdered Todd Johnson himself since he was very close to the holding cell and not had Craig O Laughlin do it.
6) Brett Partridge is also antagonistic towards jane and frequently insults psychics. He also only appears in RJ episodes and has a high voice. Also, the person who murdered Rebecca also seemed to be wearing a forensics jacket.However, I think that he does not have the power and influence to be RJ as he is only a forensics guy. Jane frequently insults him which RJ would not tolerate at all. Brett also mistakenly identified a copycat to be the real RJ which the real RJ would not have done ("I'll show you clever" part). Also, in the season 5 finale, RJ is suggested to be psychic himself by stealing a happy memory from Jane hence this would contradict Brett's behavior.
7) Finally, Bob Kirkland is a mysterious one to me. his interest in finding Lorelei Martins and RJ despite the fact that he is in Homeland Security is very weird to me. His murder of Jason Lennon suggested that he is a RJ disciple or RJ himself but I am not sure. People have suggested that he was Miranda Martins boyfriend which could very well be true. Also, RJ had the list of the 7 suspects while Lorelei was still alive but the Homeland Security broke into Jane's place after she was dead hence there is an inconsistency. We found our that he was working with Alexa Schutlz in order to get period updates on the RJ files from Virgil Minelli. However, I think RJ would just use an accomplice to get those files for him from the CBI.
One thing that puzzled me in the season 5 finale was how did RJ know the names of the suspects? How would RJ know the names of all the people that Jane has shaken hands with? I am suspecting that RJ has another insider in the CBI who is feeding him information like Gale Bertrand or someone on Jane's team like Van Pelt.Also, why did Jane smile when he found the toothpick in his room. I would think that he may have placed wrong information the Homeland guys found and RJ may also have the "wrong" list of suspects.
Somehow, I think that Rj is not in the list of suspects and based on the fact that he knows a lot of Jane's past carnival life, I strongly think it is Jane's twin brother or something like that.
I am really not sure so please share your thoughts and comments!!
I Found this interesting theory
i think i have figured out who RJ is..It is Reede Smith aka Reede = RED. Smith = tagliaferro
i think it is a very strange coincidence that smith is the english synonym of the italian word tagliaferro. and that his first name is reede. as they love in that show to make word games, i think it is a strong indicatation that he is red john. also, i dont think red john is a dominant or striking character like partrige, haffner, stiles or bertram. rj is the one you would never guess he would be rj. i am convinced it is reede smith!!!and reed here the quotation on sparknotes on the poem "tyger, tyger" (might be a coincidence, or might not :-):"The poem begins with the speaker asking a fearsome tiger what kind of divine being could have created it: “What immortal hand or eye/ Could frame they fearful symmetry?” Each subsequent stanza contains further questions, all of which refine this first one. From what part of the cosmos could the tiger’s fiery eyes have come, and who would have dared to handle that fire? What sort of physical presence, and what kind of dark craftsmanship, would have been required to “twist the sinews” of the tiger’s heart? The speaker wonders how, once that horrible heart “began to beat,” its creator would have had the courage to continue the job. Comparing the creator to a blacksmith, he ponders about the anvil and the furnace that the project would have required and the smith who could have wielded them."
I have an idea, do you remember the driver of red john's Limousine in season 4 episode 24 , he was also a bodyguard, so let's look at every Limousine's driver and bodyguard, that we have seen before s04 e24 and compare them with the one in s04e24 , and see the guy in Back seat .
I think the real question is not "Who is Red John". If we know who is RJ, then there are other question will show that we have to ask.
1) First of all, why RJ kills? Just an ego? I think it can't be. He has a powerful friends. If he kills just a reason of ego, why they support him? He must be good offer.
2) What is the offer? What can you offer to FBI agent, Homeland Security... Who really are you RJ?
3) This is a really interesting question that i wanted to know. His servants... Why his servants kills them selves? Think about it, look our world. Doing that thing people are usually do for a faith, opinion, religion. RJ should give them a faith. Visualize can do that. We clearly see that. And i think there must be connection.
4) This question like the first one(just more ideas, short questions). For what reason he kills? Why a powerful man kills random, normal people. (I accept they are random, because if not PJ should have noticed that)
*These questions are relevant. But i wanted to ask in different numbers, because of little details.
When i analysed that questions... First i thought Bret Stiles can be RJ. Because he can manipulate, he can gives faith(at the cost of death). But he is not a potencially killer. But includes some of RJ characteristics.
Bret Partridge has a killer characteristics. PJ finds him creepy. And he really is too. He can do RJ murders. But he is not a powerful man(we can see).** If he is powerful and he hides, why? I think there is not a logical answer. If we accept he is not a normal killer.
But if we combine Bret Stiles and Brett Partridge(names are the same is that a coincidence?) we can clearly see the Red John characteristics that we need.
RJ has a connections, visualize too. But a powerful organisation(***) acts serial killer actions? Come on. This is the real question. RJ is powerful man. And if you want to use agents, you should give them a good damn reason. What is that reason? Why he kills? Why smiling face? We makes theories but no one explains included that questions. There is a good questions but we make it relevant and put it on a logic.
*** I used organisation because he has a powerful friends, connections. That makes you have organisation at least.