I Just watched Red hair silver tape . Now this is not a theory just something i took into consideration . Lorelei Martins said that red John and Patric shook hands at one point . While playing rock paper scissors, Patrick and Sheriff McAllister Literally shook hands playing , LOL. cause they were shaking hands in order to play and Jane Beat him effortlessly, i just found that funny so dont be mean . . just a thought.
I think that Kirkland is Red John because Red John has to be a very powerful figure to do all the things he has done. Also Red John was able to figure out who was on patricks list so since Kirkland had those two agents break into patricks office it makes kirkland a probable suspect. Also Rosalind Harker probably would not have been attracted to an old man like bret stiles. I know that she is blind but I think that she would be able to tell if red john was old. I dont think red john is brett partridge because he is to young and red john has been killing for a long time. Remember in the episode red barn when the team figured out that red john was a member of visualize 25 years ago? Well Kirkland looks like the perfect age for that. Brett Partridge has the voice of red john but he is too young he is second on my list though.
Just something that I noticed when watching episodes that had the accused in them. The only one on that list that Jane has not made a mockery of is Bob Kirkland.
That has been one thing that has bothered me. B. Partridge is the most likely suspect, but Jane has walked all over him. Red John is a "showman" and "artist". He sees himself better than others. Taunting Jane "Give up yet?".
There is credible evidence that many others have pointed to Bob, but I hadn't heard anyone specify this.
In response to theory #4021 and other theories that mention Rebecca's escort and poisoning by Red John. I think it is important that we take into consideration , not only who could have had access in the prison, but the fact that they were about the same height as Rebecca. While two of the Sheriffs escort her you notice Rebecca does not look up at him coming down the hall, her eyes stay in a view where shes looking straight the whole time , Even as Red John gets closer , which is important because Rebecca is about 5,2" - 5,3" (just a estimate), and if somebody taller than 5 feet came in close view your head would automatically have to move up in order for you to be able to physically look the person in the eye. She did not do this so we all know who out of the suspects are about Rebecca's height here .. .. .. Its all in Season 2, episode 8.
so many theories who and who isnt red john, i found out something that could be very important which i havent ready in any other theory
Season 2, episode 8
remember when the assistent of bosco, rebecca anderson was caught killing bosco's crew? She was showing her abiding love for red john. When she was transported to the prisoncells at the cbi, she was escorted by 2 police agents. At the hallway to the cells, she is sudenly looking up.. she is looking straight ahead to the person walking towards them, its clearly that she looks relieved... inlove.. happy... and to what person would she have these feelings? Red John ofcouse, when this man passes rebecca and the 2 agents, this person (red John) poisons rebecca by putting some green stuff on rebecca's hand and she dies..
now... take this in mind... the hallway to the cells.. who would have acces to this area without letting the 2 escorting agents doubt he shouldnt be there
brett stiles couldnt walk there, he has nothing to do there, he isnt even a police agent, no civillians should be able to walk there right ?
Gale betram.. perhaps, but then i would say the agents would say something 'hello sir' since he is there boss right.. and no person walks by there boss without saying anything...
Raymond hafner.. could be, he works at the cbi
Reed smith.. wasnt he fbi?why should he be walking there?
Bob kirkland, same as reed smith..
Sherrif thomas mcallister.. same again
Brett partridge, well he works at the cbi, same as gale and raymond.. so he could be there.
for some reason i think that an fbi agent, a sherrif from another place, homeland security and a leader of a church wouldnt be able to walk near the cells of the cbi whenever they want to
id like to hear your thoughts about this, u think this could help out scratching some names of the list?
So... I've been quite skeptical of Bertram as being RJ, but I noticed something in the episode where Hightower is framed for the murder of Todd Johnson. It's already been pointed out that this is the episode where Bertram quotes a poem from William Blake (and, might I add, he seems just slightly evasive when questioned about where the poem comes from). What I noticed this time is that Laroche notes that it was Bertram who informed him of Hightower's affair that led to her being number one on the suspect list.
Sure, this could be another neat coincidence, but it is curious that a potential RJ was the one who effectively 'framed' her by dropping the thought that put on the top of the list. And, Jane hints earlier that RJ's insider was probably trying to set her up all along.
With this said, the biggest downside of the Bertram-as-RJ theory is that he should have worked out the set up at the end of the season and thus not walked into Jane's trap... But, at the same time, perhaps he recognised it was a trap but nonetheless though Hightower might be there, hence having the assassin start in the room above and then scale down to the one below - covering both rooms (as he wouldn't have know about the additional rooms).
Does this add anything to the Bertram theory?
Ps - enough with Patrick as RJ. Asides for the many reasons why that doesn't work, it would be incredibly disappointing for viewers to discover the whole show to be an extended rip off of Fight Club. I don't think Bruno has set out to do that!
And another thought that came to my mind, about…Walter
Mashburn! Ok, he is not on the list, so
what? Jane never reveals his suspects before catching them. At first, I said
ok, let`s trust Bruno Heller and accept that we can trust the list. Maybe we
can. Maybe all those seven are somehow involved. But also, The Mentalist is not
a show where they give us the killer just like that. Because, let`s be honest:
we have a list of suspects, so when the
moment of revealing RJ will come, maybe we will be surprised, but not that
much. What is the point of knowing the suspects? It just reduces the impact of
the show. Some of the fans could say “Ok, we have a list. I`ll watch only the
last episode to see which of them is the bastard.”. And then, when he is
revealed, we would be like “Ok, it`s Stiles, or Partridge, or one of the other
five. Interesting, but not a bummer”
My point is, everytime I think about Mashburn, all the
things related to him make me think that he is RJ. Besides the fact that he is
rich, has links and many important friends, he is mean and always get what he
wants, there is something that intrigues me.
In the last episode of season 5, “Red John`s rules”, Lisbon
says to Jane, “I can keep secrets”; he disagrees, but in a very weird way, like
he actually know that Lisbon is hiding something from him. Now, from what we know,
which is the ONE thing that Lisbon never told Jane? Right, Jane has no clue
that Lisbon slept with Mashburn. Of course, she doesn`t have to share with Jane
her sexual life, but still, it`s Mashburn, not just a random guy. In fact,
neither of us knows how did Mashburn get Lisbon to sleep with him.
More than that, when we first saw Mashburn in the second
season, there was a moment when he told Jane “now you just have to catch me”.
Then, in “Red John`s rules”, in the video which RJ sent to Jane he says, at a
point “until you catch me, or I catch you”. Small clue, but still.
Also, did you noticed that, each time Mashburn appears
(especially in the first episode we saw him) a really creepy music plays in the
background?