Does anyone have any good information about J.J Laroche?

This man has always unsettled Jane, he has always been known for getting in your head and making people seem weaker than he is. He has immense power over everyone he's encountered and seems like the one people fear.

There's a number of things that lead me to question this man. His name, I know it may be a long shot but like someone else has said, its french. Red John in French is John La Rouge(similar to Laroche). Maybe one of his names "J.J" is John as well?

When Jane has that guy break into his house, all seems squeaky clean! That is of course until he stumbles across the safe. Why does a lonely lonely man like Laroche need a safe? He doesn't seem to have a great deal of wealth. And in that safe there was some kind of package that Laroche is obviously hiding and he thinks Jane knows. Also, if Laroche wasn't dirty, why would he hand the suspect list to Jane, a suspect himself!

The same episode that guy broke into his house, he recites a William Blake poem. Its just too coincidental that all of these things relate to this guy.

I think there are more people involved, as there always has been but Laroche is Red John himself. Oh and the way he loves to out smart Jane is all but suspicious now, he is also constantly in Janes face when he's around and it looks like he gains pleasure from it.

His soft voice also goes well with Red Johns character.

Tyger! Tyger! burning bright
In the forests of the night,
What immortal hand or eye
Could frame thy fearful symmetry?

In what distant deeps or skies
Burnt the fire of thine eyes?
On what wings dare he aspire?
What the hand dare sieze the fire?

And what shoulder, & what art.
Could twist the sinews of thy heart?
And when thy heart began to beat,
What dread hand? & what dread feet?

What the hammer? what the chain?
In what furnace was thy brain?
What the anvil? what dread grasp
Dare its deadly terrors clasp?

When the stars threw down their spears,
And watered heaven with their tears,
Did he smile his work to see?
Did he who made the Lamb make thee?

Tyger! Tyger! burning bright
In the forests of the night,
What immortal hand or eye
Dare frame thy fearful symmetry?

William Blake did an oil painting "A Brace of Partridge" (two partidge tied together)
Also a Poem called The Lamb


In the the pilot script the first thing Brett Parrtidge says is "Red John enters here..." .
In the very first episode they give you Red John.
Patrick Jane finds him Eirksome gives him the eirks! No one gives Jane an instinctive chill He doesn't beleive in any supernatural thinking. (Or so he says)

So you have the poem The Tyger. Thy fearful symetry.
Brett is Patrick Janes twin brother, like Moriaty to Sherlock Holmes. Wonders how Jane can be so beautiful and good (ish).

Did he smile his work to see?
Did he who made the Lamb make thee?

Red Johns smile a dig at Patricks smile, so adored. Patrick is the lamb, Red John the Tyger.

Patrick Jane says to Brett Partidge when they first meet.."you enjoy your work too much.."

As Brett works at the CBI he is on the inside. I think on the subject of Red Johns voice , he takes recordings of Janes voice in the interview rooms and maniplulates them, like in the season 4 finale.

He obviously has people on the inside with him. Van Pelt being one, she is not present in the 100th episode, Red Dawn. Only when Partrick Jane starts working for the CBI does she appear. Picked by Rigsby for her beauty fooling others with her gullibilty.
Also Bertrem quotes Blake another follower.

Jane must not be aware of his twin but Partridge has always been aware of Jane.

For a while i thought Jane was RJ. But the " ..fearful symertry is in the twin brother the not the person. As in the two Partidges. As in the Two Poems "The Tyger" and "The Lamb".

Theory by Red Herring





 

Robert Kirkland seems like an interesting choice right now. He was there in the flashback episode and after "If it bleeds it leads" seems even more mysterious. If the show does not get renewed I'd say its him and if it does get renewed he is a "friend" of Red John.

Watching a lot of The Mentalist lately, great, great show! The Writers do a great job of letting us think that many characters could be RJ, yet at the same time, they give each character a reason not to be RJ. Here are some of the things I'd been thinking about as I watch the show and read the posts on this great site.

1) Can RJ really be PJ? This would be a great all time twist!However, I think we are to far along with physical evidence that would have to be dismissed/explained to make this so. To do the twist now would just not be believable; let alone ruin the show's hero. I think the Bob Kirkland story will go back to suspecting Jane. After all, the FBI/Homeland only keep tabs on you if you are a possible danger or suspect. RJ had no reason to fear Jane getting close right off the bat. Now he kinda enjoys it. I think the authorities have been investigating PJ for something all along, right or wrong on their part.

2) I want to see more stories/episodes that follow more leads?!?

A) Christina Frye, just disappeared, why no mention of her? Is she out of the trance with no memory or does she still just stare at the walls? 
B) Luther Wainright, did anybody even bother to ask the question about how he ended up in RJ's Limo?
C) Todd Johnson, I find the following description interesting; "he claims that his father, who was a police officer, was a kind man and that his mother was a saint." Could this be RJ's son? John-son? after-all RJ used Oliver Tanner's son, Dumar, in the episode "Red John's Foot Steps" If RJ had is own son, wouldn't he have used him also? 

I also want to see some more character backgrounds, especially if we are going to suspect them of being RJ on here.

A) Brett Stiles, great character/actor, whats this guy's full deal? He has skills, but Jane seems to trust/understand him. What else could he be up to? I want more!

B) Alex Jane, CBI Ron, Van Pelt's Father.....unless these characters are more developed, I doubt the Writers are just going to be like, oh by the way, one of them is RJ just because they made a 1 episode appearance?!?

And finally, who is the "AG"? In almost every episode they mention the Attorney General wants this, the AG wants that, ect? When Bob Kirkland walks by Jane the first time they meet, there's a picture on the far  wall, down the hall, could that be him? Are there other episodes that we see the AG's picture and this counts as "seeing" RJ? If so, like above I'd like to see more real character development. After-all, if RJ is more mastermind then slasher and truly controlled a large organization wouldn't he have to be at the very-very top?!? The AG would have this power!

Just some musings, please keep posting and watching this great show!! 

I strongly believe that Ron is RJ or a close associate of him! At the end of If It Bleeds It Leads, We see kirkland walking into Lisbons office with CBI Ron.This of course could be a red herring but at the end of the episode after Jane and Kirkland meet and Jane goes off camera,We see Ron again walking in the same direction as Kirkland.This cannot be a coincidence!