Who is Red John?

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List of seven

Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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I'm pretty sure that Bruno Heller had already introduced Red John in the first season (or by latest the second one), because he had no idea if the show would continue, and in the worst case, he would've wanted Red John to be atleast introduced as a person to the audience. Cross- referencing that fact with Jane's list, that only gives three names : 

1. Brett Stiles
2. Sheriff Mcallister
3. Brett Partridge

(A) Since Brett Stiles was the one who assigned Red John (the 'kid') to work in Elliston Barn (If you closely listen to Cooper on that episode), and since Partridge is the more obvious choice, that leaves only one man : Sheriff Mcallister.

(B) He was acting like a creep when he tried to escort Grace Van Pelt, so it could be obvious to guess that he could've kidnapped, raped and killed Miranda Martins.

(C) And this is the stupidest theory you could find,but Jane and Mcallister didn't become lifelong friends. You could see that the Sheriff was so pissed when he couldn't beat Jane in, after all, a normal game of Rock, Paper and Scissors...

(D) The guy who killed Rebecca had a Sheriff's uniform, and his body build resembled that of Mcallister.

(E) Simply, he's the one most people wouldn't give a second thought about, because he appeared in only one episode. The list could've contained Minelli, Masburn, or even Ron (ESPECIALLY Ron), and people would've really considered any one of them to be Red John (I did, myself, see #4298). But why, specifically, would Jane note down the Sheriff's name??

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My thoery tells that there are all acompolise to red john for example:-he need someone near patrick jane like gale bertatram,and someone who clean the crime scenes like brett patridge,and RD used bob kirkland to know what Jane last achievments

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The fact that bruno heller has said:
RJ is in the list of 7 suspects

Let's get to the main point. When the woman in season1 finale was killed, there was a smiley face on the sky. They trace back, know that RJ solutions employed to wrote the smiley face. They found Rosalind Harker. She refuses to say to Lisbon and Jane. She goes to the other room. It makes Jane to go after her. She opened the door to make Jane saw the smiley face thought she had information about RED JOHN and then said RJ is under 6 feet and blah blah blah. She's making Jane to believe in her fake info. That's why RJ didn't kill her.

Height of the suspects
Bret Stiles                                      5' 8 and1/2"
Gale Bertram                                 6'3"
Ray Haffner                                    6'1"
Reede Smith                                 6'3"
Bob Kirkland                                 5'9"
SheriffThomas McAllister            6'
Brett Partridge                             5'11"

So, we need to do the opposite of Rosalind Harker's description.
That leaves
1.Gale Bertram
2.Ray Haffner
3.Reede Smith
4.SheriffThomas McAllister

Reede Smith is too fat to be RJ as we seen in season2 finale
Leaves
1.Gale Bertram
2.Ray Haffner
3.SheriffThomas McAllister
Let's get back to the RED RIGHT HAND episode. Before Rebecca was poisoned, she smiled. Who could make she smiled if it wasn't Red John? So how can a sheriff be in CBI?
LEAVES ONLY
1.GALE BERTRAM
2.RAY HAFFNER
When Lorelei said'I am so suspicious why didn't you guys became friends the first time you shook hands?.' That means RJ should be very close at first with Patrick. And there is another evidence. In season1 finale the handle of the cup went on the left. Means RJ likes to use his left hand. In season3 finale, the handle of the cup on Gale Bertram's desk went at right. On the contrary Ray Haffner use his left hand to pick up the phone in season4 ep.2.
IT MEANS RAYMOND HAFFNER IS RED JOHN, THE SERIAL KILLER!                                                  





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After re-watching RED HAIR (2nd episode of Season 1) and CRIMSON HAT (last episode of Season 4), I feel that Red John can definitely be Thomas McAllister.

In RED HAIR ... while Lisbon and Jane are interrogating the drug dealer/boyfriend of the murder victim, the Sheriff is in the room too.  Before the boyfriend answers Lisbon, he looks at the Sheriff - who gives him a signal by squinting and cocking his head.  At this point, the boyfriend tells his story.  He looks at the Sheriff again later in the conversation after being asked another pointed question from Lisbon.  Keeping in mind that Red John has many types of people working for him, the boyfriend could be an associate.

The husband/wife (owners of the restaurant) who turned out to be killers, could also have been working with Red John/McAllister.  He may have been at the restaurant the night of the murder to provide cover for his associates, not answering a call about an unruly customer as he said he was. 

There was also the obvious scene where it looked like the Sheriff was attempting to kidnap Van Pelt.  Perhaps he knew about the CBI plan (through one of his contacts) and was attempting to distract them while the husband/wife kidnapped the other red head at the restaurant whom they brought to the hotel room to kill.  They were killed, so there's no way to know if they were Red John associates.

Finally, at the end of the CRIMSON HAT episode - after the FBI has shot at the limousine and mistakenly killed the head of the CBI - a police cruiser drives by.  This has been mentioned in other theories.  When you slow down the scene, the driver can very easily have been Sheriff McAllister.  Perhaps he was there to speak with Jane in the limousine (via the phone), of perhaps he wanted to observe what happened.  In either event, the police cruiser sped away...but for what reason??  The shooting was already done and the FBI/CBI were taking Lorelei, not the police.

McAllister could be Red John.



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Also do not rule out Sheriff McAllister. Xander Berkeley, like McDowell, is another top actor, and Heller has a lot of scope and direction he can now take with this character. I for one, was convinced he was the red head killer in that old episode, so who knows, could be a clever double bluff!

P.S my name is paulwcfc1967, in honor of my Scottish soccer team Celtic F.C, not kimi33320!!

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I think people shouldn't be so quick to disregard anyone on the list purely because of their age or appearance. There is a reason why they are on it and that's because it is possible for them to be Red John. Jane's not stupid, and unless it is a fake list ( which I doubt), they all remain viable suspects. Bruno Heller has told us he has left false clues and told a few small lies along the way, and I'm almost convinced now that Rosalind's description is one of them. Bertram remains my top suspect, but he's closely followed by Bret Stiles. I've went into a lot of detail about Gale already below, but now I'd quickly like to talk about why people shouldn't rule out Bret...

Red John's main skills and assets are pretty well known to us all by now (and, in my opinion, we should pay more attention to these, than say his hair color or his height); he's charming, manipulative, powerful, rich, mature (classical music, tea), possible ladies man, extremely sharp and clever, mentalist powers such as hypnosis, brainwashing and cold reading (similar to Jane), large following (especially, it seems, from law enforcement and Visualise).
Stiles more so than anyone ticks those boxes for me. In particular, the scene in the cell with Grace just cried out to us Red John..he came across as seductive, manipulative and very charming as he taught her how to keep herself calm and exhale out all the red smoke inside of her. What if he took a particular liking to her because she reminded him of Rosalind Harker?...could be where the "Red" in his name comes from(his attraction to red hair). It wouldn't surprise me if later on, off screen, he recruited her to his Visualise program, and possible Red John network. The main point for me though is the actors of the seven on the list. Malcolm McDowell is in a different league from the rest of them, and that could prove to be the clincher for Heller, who'll be wanting the very best to compete with Simon Baker as Jane. The majority of you will be disappointed if it does turn out to be Stiles because you say he's too old, and you may have a point. But I'd argue that Stiles looks very able bodied for his age, as in he's not thinning or stooping hunchbacked in anyway. I'd also argue that his age could possibly be a factor in why the Red John killings have slowed down in recent years. Besides, it wouldn't exactly require bodybuilder like strength to overpower young startled women (no offense) when you have a taser, a knife and a gun. Also wouldn't it make sense that he'd take back up along with him anyway, in the events of a struggle? The Red Barn episode is probably a red herring e.g who'd have guessed Haffner, now a popular choice for many, had it not been for that episode? ... So, a random man passes on the news that someone told him he saw a 'kid' painting the sign on the barn, and therefore this is supposed to be solid and categorical proof Red John is in his 40's? Come on?!?

Instead of me talking about how he has ready made followers already in his cult, which we all know, I'll finish on his relationship with Jane. No one quite manages to get under Jane's skin the way Stiles does. There's an underlying mutual respect there between the two and both are reasonably social with each other (do favors for each other) but you couldn't class them as friends. The chemistry between them however, makes every scene exciting, and would be just brilliant to watch if it turns out he has been Red John all along!
I'm not saying that he is him, just that it's still very much a possibility! Thanks guys :-)

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Theory #4344 • By el_loco_uno
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I think Dr. Royston is Red John , I have mi reasons:

1- When Miranda Martins (Lorelei Sister) was killed she wrote on the floor "Roy". Red John uses ROY  of nickname and Dr. Daniel Royston too.

He fits with all the clues:

1- Hes attractive and he looks smart.
2-Fits age.


Look at this conversation of Lorelei with Patrick:

PJ: Red John killed your sister!
L: No he didnt!
PJ: Yes! She wrote "ROY" on the floor and we BOTH KNOW WHO USES THAT NICKNAME!

Perhaps he doesnt have friends in the CBI or in the FBI and perhaps he didnt worked in Visualize.

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