Who is Red John?

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List of seven

Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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I just want to say that human nature has been given this amazing ability to be in denial.

---- DEXTER SPOILERS ----
I want to go back to dexter's final, since the start of the season, pictures revealing debra
morgan's death has been published, but some decided that dexter only fake her death.
furthermore, everyone guessed that oliver saxon was tbs, but there were some who
claimed crazy theories, like vogel is the tbs, or even debra!
And ofcouse who the tbs was? oliver saxon, did debra morgan die? yes she did.
---- DEXTER SPOILERS ----

People keep suspect people that aren't even on the 7-list (or even these that say pj is rj),
which is absurd.
And the people that think rj can be other than brett partridge, which can't even happen!

1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcFcQv8bVmA this is the sound of brett partridge, no
one else can that like that, this is and can only be brett partridge as red john @ 00:23
2) Rosalind Harker's theory is honest and trustable, bruno heller uses her knowledge since
season 1, and patrick jane always knew she was honest.
the only people that can even be red john, based on his visual profile are brett stiles (which
isnt rj because of his old age), bob kirkland (that has been proven many times that he cant
be rj, and the only one left that match the voice of rj, the profile of rj, and the main suspect
for rj is and always will be: brett partridge.

you can actually hear his freaking voice, keep being in denial.
RED JOHN = BRETT PARTRIDGE, dont let bruno heller fool you.
crazy conspiracy rarely happen, there's more than enough information to determine
rj's identity.

same as dexter, i hope that site owner won't take this site down on 22/11/13 so we, the
people who knows it's brett partridge, can say "we told you so :)".
And we will.. (rj will be revealed at episode 8 "Red John").

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Theory #4608, Part II

Red John is puppeteer. He just pulls all those strings and makes things happen. 
He is pure evil, but not an executor! Executors are naive, stupid and small human beings. They made all these crimes, and they are all stimulated by one man, a pure evil.
He is devil in human body, an evil mentalist.

In season 2, episode 20 (Red All Over), Elizabeth Stanfeld, Visualization member, planted bomb in some house and Lisbon deactivated that bomb in last seconds. In interrogation room, Cho and Jane questioned her, and in one moment she told them: „Im looking down on you from a great height, You are like ants. Its sad how far I am beyond from you people, spiritually and mentally, Just because you stopped my work doesnt mean others wont follow my path.“ 
Is sounds like Bret Stiles is talking from her. After all, she is his obedient follower, brain-washed and easy to manipulate. Red John used her to send message to Patrick that he is always one step ahead.

In season 3, episode 3 (The Blood on His Hands), Bret told Jane that many policemen are Visualize members. Brets chief of security Warner Vander Hoek told Lisbon that he read her dossier. Also he told that he spent eleven years working in Seattle Homicide and seven years in Intelligence Division. So, we can see that Bret Stiles is powerful and surrounded with strong, obedient people. His members are practically connected to Visualization for life. Lucy Joel is member who left Visualization, and after that she is scared for her life. She told Van Pelt and Rigsby that she have been followed and threatened. Also, she told that Visualize dont like when people leave the organization. Visualize uses threats and blackmails to keep their members in. When Van Pelt and Rigsby left the Lucy Joels house, somebody was followed them. It was FBI agant Craig O'Laughlin, who said later in CBI office that FBI were looking at Brat Stiles and Visualize for couple of years ago. He criticizes CBI for weak investigation of Brat Stiles and he told that FBI thinks that Stiles has his own people in police. But, we know that agent O'Laughlin was accomplice of Red John. Later, he was CBI insider for Red John and he had relationship with Grace Van Pelt, He also knew his father before. To much coincidents, isnt?
In this episode, Julius Coles, a Visualization attorney killed Celia Jovanovich, member of Visualization, too. At the end of the episode, Julius Coles was accused for murder, and immediately after he was shot and murdered by his victims husband, who is also a member of Visualization. Red Johns plan? Surely it is. In the end, Red John always eliminate his accomplices and disciples.
In the background of this episode, there is story about Kristina Frye. She was kidnapped and Brat Stiles told Jane that he knew what Red John is planning. He said that he knows much more than Jane and Red John could ever imagine. It is creative move by Brat Stiles, some kind of distraction. He praises himself in front of Jane. He domonstrates his power to him, manipulating and convincing him that he is his friend and that Red John is someone else. Brat told Jane that Red John is going to take everything and everyone that he cares about, and that it is some form of love.
I would say, wicked love.

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If Heller goes for the logical then we are left with 2 choices: Bret Stiles or Gale Bertram. Kirkland wants RJ to boost his career. Haffner was too easily fooled by Jane. McAllister also when they played Paper, Scissors, Stone. Reede Smith is too vague. Partridge too obvious but was in the Pilot episode. However, as brought up earlier by others, surely Heller should've had actual on-screen hand shakes for the Lorelei clue right!? If so, just Haffner and Bertram shook Jane's hand but Lorelei was incarcerated when Kirkland shook Jane's hand. She'd not know about him shaking hands. So, Stiles has never shook Jane's hand and that leaves Bertram. Recites Blake, was at the scene of Johnson murder, sounded like RJ and called Jane The Boy Wonder (thus knowing Jane's Carny past) so he is the logical choice. Thoughts?

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I have already posted theory here (Theory #4258) in which I explained why I think that Red John is not a single person.
Today I will post something more important, an essence of this series.

Lets go in the Bruno Hellers mind and motives. 
The name of the series is MENTALIST. Its about mentalism. (Definition: Mentalism is a performing art in which its practitioners, known as mentalists, appear to demonstrate highly developed mental or intuitive abilities.) In this series, Bruno praise a beauty of human mind, a brain skills based on scientific facts.
He often asserts that magic doesnt exist. Jane said that he is not a psychic. Psychics doesnt exist.
Jane abuses his abilities to earn money and he paid a price for that. 
Bruno Haller doesnt like fraud, manipulation and lies. He represents sadists, psychopats and manipulators as a worst kind of human being. According to that, he transfers all those characteristics to the ultimative bad guy - Red John. Also, Bruno Heller has antireligion attitude. He finds wishful thinking naive, bad and stupid. He represents VIsualization as a brain-washing machine, evil organization. 
Bruno Haller praises humanity, moral and forgiveness. 
Patrick Jane will catch Red John only if he would possess all those good characteristics. But, Patrick Jane is not a blissful character. He wants bloody revenge and it brakes him in his persecution of Red John. According to religion theme, it is fight between good and evil. But it is not imaginary fight, it is real fight between human beings. Red John is Devil, and Patrick is still Captain Jerk (anagram of Patrick Jane), and he will catch Red John only when he release his primitive instincts. If Bruno can eliminate revenge in this fight, the goal will be achieved. In that case, Good will win this battle without any stain. 
So, the main point of my theory is that maybe Red John didnt kill his family, or even didnt kill anybody. Red John is  pupeteer, he just pulls all those strings and makes things happen. He is pure evil, source of all bad things, but not an executor! Executors are naive, stupid, small human beings. They made all these crimes, and they are all stimulated by one man, a pure evil. 
He is devil in human body, not an imaginary creature, but real human, evil mentalist.

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Theory #4607 • By oops1ahah
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I have already posted theory here (Theory #4258) in which I explained why I think that Red John is not a single person.
Today I will post something more important, an essence of this series.

Lets go in the Bruno Hellers mind and motives. 
The name of the series is MENTALIST. Its about mentalism. (Definition: Mentalism is a performing art in which its practitioners, known as mentalists, appear to demonstrate highly developed mental or intuitive abilities.) In this series, Bruno praise a beauty of human mind, a brain skills based on scientific facts.
He often asserts that magic doesnt exist. Jane said that he is not a psychic. Psychics doesnt exist.
Jane abuses his abilities to earn money and he paid a price for that. 
Bruno Haller doesnt like fraud, manipulation and lies. He represents sadists, psychopats and manipulators as a worst kind of human being. According to that, he transfers all those characteristics to the ultimative bad guy - Red John. Also, Bruno Heller has antireligion attitude. He finds wishful thinking naive, bad and stupid. He represents VIsualization as a brain-washing machine, evil organization.
Bruno Haller praises humanity, moral and forgiveness. 
Patrick Jane will catch Red John only if he would possess all those good characteristics. But, Patrick Jane is not a blissful character. He wants bloody revenge and it brakes him in his persecution of Red John. According to religion theme, it is fight between good and evil. But it is not imaginary fight, it is real fight between human beings. Red John is Devil, and Patrick is still Captain Jerk (anagram of Patrick Jane), and he will catch Red John only when he release his primitive instincts. If Bruno can eliminate revenge in this fight, the goal will be achieved. In that case, Good will win this battle without any stain. 
So, the main point of my theory is that maybe Red John didnt kill his family, or even didnt kill anybody. Red John is  pupeteer, he just pulls all those strings and makes things happen. He is pure evil, source of all bad things, but not an executor! Executors are naive, stupid, small human beings. They made all these crimes, and they are all stimulated by one man, a pure evil. 
He is devil in human body, not an imaginary creature, but real human, evil mentalist.

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 I think that none of those on the list are actual suspects but rather a game. If you remember Jane put a toothpick in the door and when he returned he found it on the floor. When he picked it up he had somewhat of a half smile on his face, like someone was suppose to break in and see his board. Knowing someone would come he created a fake list that red john fell for, I mean we haven't seen what happened after he broke that dvd. The way the show has gone in the past this seems like a plausible theory to me. However I have heard the creator or someone said that red john IS in fact on the list, so it isn't likely unless he lied which maybe, but I think this would have been a good clever way to catch him maybe
anyway

I can eliminate one of the suspects in the list based on previous information, the visualize lead. Red john was someone in his late teens or 20s on that farm 25 years ago making him 45ish-55 years of age. Bret Stiles is too old, the actor that plays him is 70.

Kirkland is an obvious choice the way he is so creepy, but I feel like he is more of an accomplice.

Of those on the list the only ones that seems plausible to me are Haffner and Partridge
Both seem obvious though, we are somewhat lead to believe that Haffner was on that farm which could make him the killer obviously. Partridge's voice sound so much like the times we have heard red john's voice which again makes him obvious then.

If the list is real I'd go with partridge, but honestly he is kind of a random character, and if he is RJ that is a moderately lame ending. Any of them being red john......I like my idea better


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I think that everybody overlooks something very important when considering the seven suspects on hand...this being that whoever Red John may be isn't going to be Red John in their every day life...if Red John is truly a mastermind like Jane he will have the uncanny ability to convince people that he's someone he's not....Brett Partridge, for example, could be Red John simply hiding his charming personality from the world that knows him as Brett Partridge...the same is true for the remaining six suspects. I think that when you look at it from this perspective it is impossible to narrow your list down...and when you think about it, the least likely a character is to be Red John...the more interesting a hidden side to that character could be. And example in mind is Gale Bertram. Next time you watch in episode in which Bertram speaks, imagine a high pitched, soft Red John voice. Imagine the way he acts as a scheme such as many of the ones that Jane pulls in which he's hiding who he really is in order to outsmart everyone else. After watching the season 4 premiere, I'm far more intrigued by the idea that Bertram could be Red John. But then again, anyone could be Red John if the writers want them to be...its only a matter of creating two characters in one. This is less of a theory and more of an observation...but consider it next time you compare each suspect to Red John.

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