One thing you guys need to remember. The smiley face on the barn. It is 25 years old. The person who painted it was a teenager. This would put Red John in his 40's. Use this info when deciding your theory.
One thing you guys need to remember. The smiley face on the barn. It is 25 years old. The person who painted it was a teenager. This would put Red John in his 40's. Use this info when deciding your theory.
Has to be Bret Stiles. First of all, Red John is not that young (they said in the first crime he committed in that Barn from episode 5.13 more than 20 years ago). So, though it would've been plausible, that ruled Brett Partridge out for me (plus he is a big fan of Red John and by what we have knows RJ doesn't have the geek enthusiastic profile, and it would be very masturbatory of him to investigate and study his own crimes).
Other suspects, like Kirkland for example, are definitely connected to him but seem to lack the cunning intelligence of a mastermind criminal.
From the Red Barn episode we've also learned that Red John had a connection to Visualize, which is now led by Bret Stiles.
Bret Stils also in more than one situation shown that he is as or more intelligent than Jane. When Jane accused him (I can't remember the episode), he managed to get away and had a plan of his own. Jane (kinda) trusts him and, even if he doesn't trust him fully, he's definitely one of the suspects he respects the most (and Lorelei said they were alike).
So, he has the right age, the right background, the right connections, the right brain and the right posture.
Plus, and this may sound stupid but it's a big plus, it's MALCOLM MCDOWELL which is one of the greatest villains ever and thus being a perfect cast for this great evil mastermind.
Nuff said.
I was somebody who thought for sure that Brett Partridge was Red John, but after last night... Obviously it's someone else. Regardless of who it is, I think BP was definitely an agent of RJ. When PJ came face to face with RJ in the season 2 finale, I think he was definitely talking to Partridge, who was posing as RJ. It's not the first time RJ has sent a follower to pose as him. In the season 3 finale, Timothy Carter (the man PJ shoots and kills) claims to be RJ and PJ even believes he is the person who actually killed his wife and daughter, not RJ himself. Also, Todd Johnson (the cop killer who was lit on fire and killed by Craig O'Laughlin) said "Tyger, Tyger" to PJ as he was dying, just as Partridge said to Lisbon as he was dying. Definitely a RJ agent.
As for Reede Smith...
Bruno Heller said that Red John is a Where's Waldo character in the series, not someone major. I think RJ is going to be someone no one suspected, and going into last night's episode, I noticed that there were only THIRTEEN theories about Reede Smith. Read some of the theories... they're pretty compelling! Especially the one about the origins of the names. That's good stuff.
mentalistfan123 - I dont think that Bartram could be Red Jhon... At the end of the 1 ep from sea. 6- we can see R.J.'s hands. They are too skiny... But!!! If we look carefouly at the 7 members list only Ray Haffner and Brett Partridge has ,, that kind of skiny hands,, But Brett is dead...
Also another theory that I was thinking is what if Red Jhon is not just one pers.? What if the ,,real,, Red Jhon is Ray and also Bartram? Or Ray and Bob... ( Bob was that pers. who brokes in James room)
If red john is going to kill everyone on the list, Brett Partridge is probably the best person to start with, probably the only one that doesn't carry a gun around with him every waking second, and the least powerful, brett styles will probably be the hardest to get at, if he is going to kill all of the suspects on the list that is!!
Red john is on the list of seven. Jane's list is within the list of seven. But he's closer than he's told anyone. He's allowed Red John to see that he's close "the toothpick trick" but he's concealed how close he truly is from Red John...from everyone. He's done this in order to place himself one step ahead of red john. He needs red john to know that he's close so that he will panic and make a mistake. Not letting him see the extent of how close he really is not only puts Jane essentially one step ahead, but also will serve to humiliate red john in the end. My guess? Its Bertram. After the premiere I feel that Bertram is even more errogant and vindictive than I felt before. I think that he's not only capable of committing these crimes but the way he talks is identical to the way red john talks. The only difference is in the pitch. Pay attention to his diction and his tone. I think that the falsetto is his real voice and he covers it with his Bertram voice in everyday life. I'm guessing that Jane is strongly suspicious of Bertram and uses a larger lslist to throw him off. That's my theory
Because he used to quote Blake in many occasions as Red John.. Is in between many agencies, he have the perfect age to be suspected in the old factory events and have enought time to spend knowing the moviments of the Lisbon's team..