Did you see Haffner's reaction when Lisbon said :"Red John isn't so tough, he barely laid a hand on me"? It was like he got insulted.
Did you see Haffner's reaction when Lisbon said :"Red John isn't so tough, he barely laid a hand on me"? It was like he got insulted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aYdXiWf9dM
in this video at 1.45 at shows a letter that Rosalind sent Roy aka RJ. The First line is Dear Roy, i found this address on a business card of yours that i discovered in the back of the sofa. This means she was not blind at the time her and Roy were dating or the director's have put that in by mistake which seams unlikely to me because the episode was 1x23 which was written by Bruno Heller and directed by Chris Long who directs all the mentalist finales
Its good to start and see the suspects more, we’ve been
seeing alot of Bertram lately. In episode 2 we are introduced to ray, reed and sheriff,
of course we haven’t seen any of bret styles yet but thats definitely
coming. Its still very hard to be sure
who is RJ as there is only one! In
episode 2 RJ spared Lisbons life, either he changed his mind, or couldn’t go
through with it. Maybe he like Jane has feelings for her. I suspected Ray
Hafner for several reasons, he in her dream conscious was the one who murdered
her; when he entered the hospital to visit Lisbon he had a weird way about him,
which hes always had. almost like its RJ. They way he smirks, and reads Lisbons
nerves without a sense of fear, only a person guilty and RJ would be fearless
in face of confrontation, almost still like a game to him. He says something
off as e leaves, ‘’ either way we will have that meeting’’ or something along
those lines. Also though we never realised but we saw alot of him in the CBI
visiting Bertham or whoever. RJ is always close keeping an eye on things.
That scene where they are all sat together in bertham office
confirms the fact that it cant be any of
them. Sheriff looks clueless, reed seems like a uncontrollable temperamental
cop but not a genius, and bertham is far from it yet deep in it... he may even
be next on RJ hit list.
Conspiracy theory I think is as follows: Berthram, reed and
the sheriff are all controlled and monopolized by RJ. He as many say has
evidence one them being corrupters, and so they must comply, its like berthram
for the 2nd time reminds Jane to keep him up to date with the case. Not sure where Kirkland lies in this, perhaps
hes RJ new second man or he’s against RJ ( for his own reasons). Bret styles is
somewhere in this yet we don’t know, is he good or bad. To be continued..thats
my take....
Its hard to really know whats going on, the writer has been
really smart up to now, hes thrown all sorts of clues to keep us wondering yet
we haven’t seen the half of it yet, thats for certain.
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I always like doing a little recap to rethink some of my previous theories. My opinion, since I've seen him, has been that Patrick's father, Alex, is Red John.
I have not seen the second episode yet of season 6, but from what I see it seems to have placed Haffner in the spotlight.
We need to remember that even though someone may fit a set of clues down to the last detail, there must be a reason for someone to have been written in as the main antagonist of any story. When taking this into consideration, Haffner does not seem to be a good candidate as he showed up from nowhere into the story and has been pretty inactive when it comes to the main story line.
I am of the opinion that more than one person is involved in this saga. I will list some of my less likely scenarios in a moment, but first I want to look at recent things which I feel are significant:
1) Partridge's death - honestly, I've watched it over and over a few times but I just can't make out what happens to Teresa at the end of episode 1 in season 6. It seems like she falls over, from where she stands there is a window behind her, either Red John is outside that window or on the floor . . . . . . . ? I know Partridge was announced dead in episode 2 but we know Red John has influence on the goings on in the CBI. If Brett were RJ, it may be that he staged his murder to get PJ off his trail, as Patrick asks him earlier in the episode whether he really has no idea why Patrick is looking at him like that.
2) The list of seven - So Red John does this neat thing where he calls out Patrick's list two months before Patrick has the final list of seven. But when Patrick realizes someone broke into his room, he smiles. Did he lead Red John to these 7 names? Was this his way of weeding out Red John's helpers?
Red John was said to have contacts in the CBI and FBI. This kind of primarily excludes him from actually working for the CBI. But then again Red John obviously is not one person working alone. So lets ask ourselves again, what would the reason be (for undoubtedly, if he were real) the most successful serial killer, would overthrow a whole police department to torture Patrick Jane? It MUST be extremely personal.
I will, until it is revealed to be otherwise, stick to believing that Alex Jane (Patrick's father) is the mastermind behind the Red John group. He is Red John. My theory is as follows:
1)Patrick runs away from a life shared with his father, conning people for financial gain, with his wife. This may have enraged his father and made him hate Patrick's wife and family as he feels they 'stole' Patrick away from him.
2) The Tyger - This poem revolves around the question that why would God create something like the devil who is the exact opposite of what God is. This could mean that after Jane left his father, his father may have taken on another 'student' or 'students', this may be where one of the seven comes in. Or more than one. Patrick's father may have taught someone in the list what he taught Patrick, and they are working together.
3) Red John must be old enough to have been in visualize for many years, or been in visualize many years ago. Patrick's father would fit that clue, and Brett Stiles said he knew Patrick's father.
4) The only person who may be able to match what Patrick can do, would be the one who taught him what he knows (once again refer to The Tyger). His father would know what his next move(s) would be and thus it may seem as though he's 'psychic'.
5) The childhood memory - The lady that is killed by Red John is revealed to have been a source for a happy childhood memory of Patrick. Who else would know about this but his father?
6) Just as a general point, I think we've seen enough of his father, been told little enough about what happened to him and that he is a big enough blindside for him to be revealed as Red John and have everyone be surprised.
One of the scenario's I considered was that Patrick may corner one of the seven suspects and in their death or in the moment he has them in his hands, that person reveals that his father is Red John, and the particular suspect was either his father's prodigy or even Jane's brother he did not know about.
As I said, I will stick with my theory until the reveal is made, but before you submit another theory, just remember that you have to think story-wise what Bruno Hellar's move would be. Would he really dedicate the build up to the reveal piling on evidence for one person so we know beforehand who Red John is, or does he want to keep us guessing until the reveal? I think that if an episode points to someone, we can safely say that it is a red herring.
Red John will be someone who no one has supected and who may have been dismissed on multiple occasions.
Ok so we "know" it is not the chap I accused but still I had to choose someone o_O
So not much a theory but "food for thought"
Last season finale, RJs call to PJ:
"I'm going to start killing again, often! Until you catch me or I catch you."
So this does not make much sense to me.
After the revelation of the handshake and the list, RJ decides to start killing again.
WHY? After a period of laying low, so to speak, this pushes him to the forefront. The option of getting caught is made more possible with the escalation of kills. Clearly handing himself in is not allowed. RJ could just have kept up with the kills but not personal to PJ and thus off the radar. Yet this handshake/list revelation has meant that PJ must be the focus of the escalation.
So RJ has had PJ tied to a chair and does not kill him - just rambles out a poem. WHY?
RJ has shown that he has resources, financial and associates. He was able to take out the CBI with the use of the secretary, then kill the secretary (either him or a proxy did the deed) as well as the witness burnt inside the cell. So 3 people killed within the CBI by the will of RJ. Which shows that in general location is not a hindrance when RJ wants to kill a person. PJ spends his time dozing on the sofa in the office or in his padlocked warehouse type apartment. Either should be no effort if PJ was to be killed.
Why is PJ not dead yet? He insulted RJ and his wife/kid was killed. The other guy insulted RJ and he was killed. RJ has had opportunity aplenty.
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So: RJ could catch PJ anytime - which leaves PJ catching RJ (which I think is the point of the game).
the note that red john left that said dinner's in the oven had 3 different spelt e's is this a clue?
Of course its ray haffner !!! Everyone has already put why it is him because of evidence found within the show, but its also the actual name of the actor playing ray haffner (REEDE DIAMOND) !!! Take away from just two E's and there is RED..