Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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Theory #5304 • By whatsuplisbon
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In the hospital right after telling Patrick that Partridge said 'tyger, tyger' before 'dying'....she goes on to say, isn't that what RJ said to you??????  When did Patrick tell Lisbon.....in 2:23, RJ kills the students and recites the poem to Patrick, however when later talking with Lisbon about it, he specifically says RJ said nothing.  He keeps this bit of information secret.....to himself.

Did  I miss a subsequent episode when he told Lisbon???  I don't rememmber him ever telling anyone about the signfiicance of that poem, or tyger, tyger.   How could Lisbon know this information......did she just slip...is she involved???

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Here I am again!

Guys, I have a theory for you and it could be a big one:

In the episode 6x02 we can listen dr. Miller's description of Red John, that she met as Jay Roth.
There are a lot of details and I think that the whistle stuff is the one which most people has noticed.
But I think it's a distractor clue (three suspects whistled on the episode).
I think that the real big clue is the phobia stuff.
Mr. Roth mentioned the acrophobia, but dr. Miller was not convinced; she said he has some kind of phobia, but she doesn't know which one.
Well, that's the point of my theory:
the pigeons!
Red John is ornithophobic, so he is scared of pigeons!
At the beginning of the episode 6x02 Patrick said: "Maybe something spooked him and he couldn't go through his usual routine."
The pigeons! The pigeons spooked him!

There would be some reason why they appear in episode 6x01 and also in episode 6x02; and in this second case, Patrick stares on them like he was thinking about this possibility.

Now, why I choose once again Haffner for this theory:
because he fits the description, yep, but there is another reason.
He said to Lisbon: "I like you, Teresa. I really do! And one of these days, you and me... we'll have the time."

It sounds like he wants to remedy to his first chance with her on that abandoned house. Plus, Red John caressed her cheek while drowing his mark on her face.
So, if I'm right: find the one who is scared of pigeons (or birds, or feathers) and you'll find Red John! And if I'm right, that one will be Haffner.

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1 - He is well-known for being an expert in Electronic surveillance.
Now... it is clear that Red John has been listening to the team's phone calls and has traced their positions all the time (unless he has psychic powers, which we know he hasn't -- the Mentalist is not Lost).
He has always been one step forward, and there is evidence that he knew new information as soon as the team members knew it (because he killed many witnesses at the very last minute - if he knew "everything" well before Jane & Co, why he didn't do the job well in advance?)
He killed Dr. Miller after Patrick left a message on her voice mailbox.
He reached the place where the three copycats were keeping Jane prisoner just a few hours after Jane left a message for Lisbon in which he said he was getting closer to the killers.
....and many other cases.
We've seen Van Pelt bugging and tracing the suspects' phones. Why shouldn't a former CBI agent, EXPERT in electronic surveillance be able to do that?

2 - His name is only a vowel away from one of his aliases: Ray ..... Roy (Tagliaferro)

3 - He is one of the three suspects whose age is consistent with being "some kid" at the Visualize farm in the late 80s when a young RJ painted the red face on the barn. Stiles, Bertram, McAllister are too old to be called "kid" 23-25 years ago.
This leaves us with only Haffner, Smith, and Kirkland. Among them, only Haffner is a known member of Visualize.

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Does anyone have any thoughts on when the nurse came in lisbon hospital room with the wrong name it seemed benign enough but generally things like that mean something

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When PJ is in Sophie Millier's kitchen, RJ left a note that says "DINNER'S IN The OVEN."

Each "E" is written in a different manner - the dinnEr is uppercase block, the thE is lowercase, and the ovEn is cursive upper case.

Three E's.

The name "Reed" is not unusual, however the spelling "Reede" is.  It is unusual because it has 3 "e's."

Three E's.

Methinks we have been dropped a hint.

Reede Smith is Red John.  Even the name Reede contains Red.  The name Smith is the most common last name, while John was the most common male name in the 20th century.

Reede (Reed) is a English name meaning "Redheaded."

Last name "Smith" means "one who works with metal" or "to smite, strike."

The RJ Alias "Tagliafero" is an Italian name meaning "One who works with Iron" or "A strong or vicious fighter."

Reede Smith IS RJ.

Game, Set, Match.

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Why doesn't Jane just put the suspects in front of that blind woman who knew Red John. She could tell Jane which one is the man she knew. They could also narrow it down by getting alibis from the suspects for the time during which Red John was painting Lisbon with blood. I'm sure that would narrow it down considerably. You know, old fashion police work and all. There is no way all of the suspects are without alibis for all of the Red John killings. This whole storyline is a farce. You could drive a truck through the holes in the Red John plot.  Thank goodness they're wrapping this up soon! 

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 Only the 2nd episode of the season and it seems 90% say it's Haffner.  This is the exact reason why I am saying it's  NOT!

There where SO many red herrings thrown out there last night that were so FREAKIN' obvious that they were laughable!  Most of them were the words and actions of the 6 remaining suspects.  Heller would NEVER be so transparent to make Haffner  act that way so early in the show.  It's obvious that Bertram, MacAllister, Reede and Kirkland are planning something of their own that may or MAY NOT be considered a Red John cover-up.  My guess is Red John is watching THEM and Jane knows it.  This is why he is following them so closely and why he told Lisbon they were the suspects.  He now has the entire team focused on them so he can venture out further while keeping tabs on the others.

Odd things I noticed:

1.  Pigeons (again)  the camera made a distinct pan across them as the person was feeding them by the bench.  (We saw them last week in the house where Lisbon was attacked.

2.  Why did no one mention the CIRCUS-type smiley face that was painted on Lisbon? (btw,  a REAL forensic team would have Jane's head for taking that evidence!!)

3.  Okay sure, the Jay Roth (re: Red) sounds very convincing but didn't you hear the other name before that?  WASHBURN?  Hello?  MASHBURN!!!!    Listen to the description she is describing for this Jay Roth person.  It could be Mashburn!   I could see Mashburn using the name Jay Roth as a client but planting a fake client to use the name Washburn knowing Jane would eventually find the list.
 I didn't put Mashburn's pic in the suspects accusation photo knowing many of you would immediately vote this "unlikely."   Sue me.  I like a little drama.  ;)



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