Bruno Heller once said that we "will be disappointed about Red John's identity"...
Can someone tell me WHEN he said that? I can't find it anywhere...
I have a theory that I will post later, and probably this thing won't change my mind, but I want to know it... So thanks to who will answer!
Let's assume, from the episode synopsis that people have posted, that the list is a fake. (I was one who thought the list was fake all along)
If the list is fake, doesn't that make the killing of Brett Partridge Patrick's fault!? I think it does, and I think there is a reason why:
Just like Patrick led Red John to James Panzer, I think that Brett Partridge definitely could have been a killer himself. He was obsessed with Red John, and probably tried to become a serial killer just like him.
The hole in that theory would be: "Well how did Jane know that RJ would kill Brett and not the others?"
We'll have to wait and see...
But there is ONE thing that I think is blatantly obvious. Patrick Jane has a plan. He has a BIG plan...
Remember the depths that he went to with his first plant to catch Red John? Going into a depression, getting arrested, faking Lisbon's death...
The list HAS TO BE FAKE.
At this point, I think everything that happens, we have to assume as being part of Patrick's plan.
Lisbon telling Grace, Grace telling Rigsby, Rigsby telling Cho...All part of the plan...
I would assume that this season, it will appear that Red John is going to continue being one step ahead of Patrick, and the chase will get more and more intense, and it will appear that Red John has won...but then Patrick will have his usual Ace up his sleeve, leading to him (or maybe Lisbon) killing Red John!!
(SIDE THEORY)--> I think that Patrick KNOWS that Lisbon will NOT let him kill Red John. She wants to bring him to justice. Patrick knows that wont work, so he's going to set it up to where Lisbon is put in a position where SHE has to kill Red John! (ex: RJ is about to kill Patrick)
All that aside, I think that who Red John is may be a bit of a disappointment like Bruno said, BUT the surprise will be who is WORKING with Red John and how far his reach really goes. Is Grace a part of RJ's team? CBI Ron? Is the entire list of 7 people RJ associates?
I just hope that this season is a good one and doesn't take a bad turn like Dexter!
I also believe that BP is still alive. An that are the clues from Bruno Heller that makes me really sure that Partridge is RJ:
- Bruno said that RJ 'likes the Cold'
BP is a forensic analytic, he is working with dead, cold, bodies
- Episode 1/6 is called ' the dessert rose'
A dessert rose is never really dead, it can grow again and again combined with water.... (Without Water its just sleeping).
Just my two cents.
There's been so much talk about RJ being a sum of 7 people but in my opinion this would be a disappointing way for closure to Jane as well to us fans.
I guess i would have been ok with this theory of 7, had RJ begun to take form at the same time Jane started consulting for the CBI, as a counterweight to his brilliance in solving all those countless crimes. But let us not forget the RJ pre existed way before Jane jointed the CBI, even before his family got murdered by RJ. So what are we really suggesting here ? That 7 people from with different demografics, out of the sudden decided to come together and form a serial killer named RJ?? And where did they meet? They frequented at the same bar?At fantasy football?In sociopaths anomymus support group?
And for the sake of the argument lets say that indeed they got together and RJ came to life.
In a group of people who believe in the same cause, a cult or something, there is always a leader, a figure of authority that came up with the idea, who organises, schemes and delegates...So only this person is RJ and the other 6 people are just his sidekicks, his errand boys,,,,
And what about ep07 of current season and its title "The Great Red Dragon"? But really, do you think that Mr Heller would reveal something so important like RJ's ID in an episode title ? Remember what is the title of ep08..Red John...Come on now, RJ should be one person..,
I am not saying the the all the suspects do not play a role . They do play an important one. I trully believe that they all know who RJ is. And RJ holds each of them with something and uses it as leverage into making them do things for him.
For instance the voice we hear might be one person, Rosalind met another, Lorelai o third one, the psychiatrist another and so on and on...
But behind all this there is only one person pulling the strings, one RJ.
I cannot say with certainty who from the 7 is RJ. For a long time i thought it was Partrigde but now i am not so sure. But I strongly believe it is one person otherwise, I would be extremely disapponted by this story's end.
Thank you for bearing with me....
I'm just connecting other theories, so will skip most of the math. Brett Stiles is more powerful than RJ, is not RJ, but is connnected to RJ. My guess would be he is RJ's father. And knows it. That leaves the question did RJ learn from him or is he merely sadly using power to protect his homicidal son? The former seems too predictable. Mr. Stiles is using Haffner, and unknown others, to protect his son. BP. So BP is either not dead after all or Stiles kiiled his own son him-self.
Bertram, McAllister, and Smith are in cahoots, But on something else. Classic shady California land-deals. Fodder for another season.
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Interesting fact that supports that either Bertram or smith is red john is the actors list of the red john episode which only include those two from the red john suspects list however this might not be the final list of actors or maybe the producers are hiding some names to avoid spoiling the audience
Guess what is the first line of partridge in mentalist:
"Red john enters here" !!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVmQFzq8Jeo