Who is Red John?

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List of seven

Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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First of all the biggest problem with all the fans posting here (including myself) is that we are trying to defeat scriptwriters (particulary Bruno Heller) by predicting the outcome. But at the same time we are hoping that Heller would be able to defeat us and none of the existing theories would be true. So our needs include some inner paradox, which makes hard for us to generate completely uncrushable theories.
Second, most of us are posting deductive theories and there is a lack of inductive ones. You see, deductive theories are limitless, because almost any person, even the most unbelievable one, could be introduced as RJ. For example, PJ's daughter, who is supposed to be RJ's only child victim! I can create a theory from nothing about her being RJ. I can say, that RJ is a mask and the person behind it is changing time by time. RJ who killed PJ's wife was Tim Carter, but he couldn't kill the daughter. We know he had some weakness for girls (remember the hostage victim Mrs. Carter was keeping). So he just took her to his home (replacing with his previous hostage's body), and later the child became RJ.
So, I must ask you to pay more attention to the facts and not the guesses. Here is my inductive theory made some months ago, before the current season started: http://www.whoisredjohn.com/See-a-theory-Red-John/3591
And a deductive one, also by me: http://www.whoisredjohn.com/See-a-theory-Red-John/4438
You see the difference.
By the way, now I'm still thinking about McAllister being the most probable suspect. Actually two new facts about him were revealed: smelling abilities (shampoo and oregano), hunting (there was something about Africa, where Carters met RJ, so safari is a good connector here). I would also add the game they played with PJ in S1E2. What were they doing? Shaking hands!
Other facts, shown during these last 3 episodes, are:
Trap for Lisbon (still no clear reason, just guesses)
Partridge saying "Tyger..."
Electroshocker
Using Lisbon's phone (attention, not RJ's, but Lisbon's) with busy hands
Miller's record
Thanks for attention!

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The death of Partridge has caused a rift in theories. So I just want to see how many people Bruno Heller has fooled. Which way he's fooled us, we'll have to see. I suspect a portion of people who thought it was BP have been swayed now.

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Green = You think that the alias, "Brett Partridge" is dead and now he operates as RJ.
Red = You think that Brett Partridge is dead, and was never RJ.

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Hello everyone.

First I just want to say that I totally ignore Bruno's words because, he won't sold and spoil his show in media.

I have a problem with the list of the seven name. Some of them don't fit the clue we already have. So why PJ place them on that list anyway. Either, this list is bogus and the real RJ is not on it (objective is to create a trap with this list), either the list contains the real suspect on it and we can eclude Sheriff MacAllister, Smith, Bertram, Stiles leaving Haffner, Kirkland and Partridge or some of the clues we have, are, totally or partially, wrong (age, physics,...).

If some of the clues are wrong this may be because RJ is in fact several person. This theory explains ubiquity but have two major problem. First, I think we have already know if Rosalind Harker description in episode 1x23 was not correct and second RJ profile seems to descripe one person only and do not have major contrast (like two personalities in one). So for me that's wrong.

If the list is accurate, that means :
     -Sheriff MacAllister is out : don't fit with the description, don't seem to be manipulative but he can whistle... (could be a followers)

     -Smith is out : don't fit with the description, is not able to manage anger (could be a followers)

     -Bertram is out : don't fit with the description, don't seem very intelligent (could be a followers)

     -Stiles is out : would have been the perfect RJ but don't fit with the description. But he is for good close to RJ (could be some kind of a mentor).

     -Haffner is in : match description, can whistle, is kind of strange, shakes hand with PJ and don't become a friend. Is asking about the case (clue or not?!? not sure) Visualize member, ex CBI and FBI (have some relation). Is relatively low rank so he have more flexibility. have the motive => He is best suspect but maybe too best

     -Kirkland is in : match description, shakes hand with PJ and don't become a friend. But base on 6x04 promo he is not RJ because he torture PJ to have information (could be a followers)

   -Partridge is in : match description, is very strange, is in CBI (close to the case), is asking and following a lot RJ but doesn't shakes hand with PJ on screen (but we can assume they did it on screen; we don't have to take this clue literally I think)  and seems to be dead.

And finally, if the list is bogus, either the seven are RJ's followers or they are completly innoncent. This tell us something about PJ, if they are followers then PJ is cleaning up and approching RJ, if they are innoncent then PJ wants RJ and doesn't matter about collateral damage.

But then who is RJ :

     -PJ himself : in a sort he is because RJ is the perfect opposite of PJ (the evil twin -metaphorically-). He match perfectly and we cannot exclude him but in my personnal oppinion the show doesn't prepare us about this possibilities so it would be a too much artifical twist and what would is motive be?

     -PJ's hidden brother : could be but in 6 season we never had a clue about a brother of PJ so this would also be too much artifical.

     -Alex Jane PJ's father : would be too old to match RJ's description and isn't present enough in the show

     -Lisbon, Van Pelt, or other woman: we are looking for a caucasian man. (could be followers)

     -Cho : we are looking for a caucasian man. He could have been but he is too straight and a bit too young and friend with PJ.

     -Rigsby : too young, is friend with PJ (but is Lorelei saying the true when she says they are not friends...)

     -CBI Ron : drink tee, match description, is strange, always present since the beggining, has a ring in the same place than RJ. Doesn't shake hand with PJ. We don't know much about him so we can't exclude him => He is a good suspect and I don't understand why he isn't on PJ's list maybe because he is PJ's number one suspect.

     -Walter Mashburn : match description, has a lot of ressources, is intelligent and manipulative. We can exclude him execpt maybe because of the fact he isn't close to PJ and the case.

And if an other person is RJ, I will be very surprise and Bruno Heller will have a lot of job to sell me that.

So my number one suspect is Ray Haffner, followed by CBI Ron and Partridge.

Sorry for the very long post and for my english...

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Theory #6196 • By mmm_01234
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The series name is "the mentalist". From the wiki, here's what the definition of "Mentalism" is Mentalism is a performing art in which its practitioners, known as mentalists, appear to demonstrate highly developed mental or intuitive abilities. Performances may appear to include telepathyclairvoyancedivinationprecognitionpsychokinesismediumshipmind control, memory feats and rapid mathematics. Hypnosis may also be used as a stage tool. Mentalists are sometimes referred to as psychic entertainers.

We all know Jane was an entertainer before. Also we have seen this a number of times ,that he has hypnotized a few people. 

So, I propose, that Jane, who always says that there is nothing like clairvoyance or psychic powers, actually uses hypnosis to make people kill other people.  He may not be Red John, but he could be the one who "Makes" RJ.. .and post hypnosis, the person doesn't remember anything, anyway! 

So there could be more than 1 person doing it... 

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Hi everybody,

I spent a lot of time reading all theories and I came to the following one:

RJ is Partridge! And let me explain you why:
I think that he is not dead, he just wants to make PJ thinking he really is.
Furthermore, RJ is probably linked to Bret Stiles ( probably his son) and the five other suspects are RJ disciples.
That would explain 'The Great Dragon' with seven heads. All of the guys are working for RJ, they might have even pretended being RJ in front of victims, that would explain why RJ can be good looking, computer skilled, can be phobic and so on...it would be all the more difficult for PJ to catch the real RJ since we can imagine that Sophie is describing The sheriff, Lorelei is describing Haffner, etc,etc...

But I think that PJ knows that Partridge is not dead, he is a step ahead from RJ. He might try to guess who is a disciple and who is not.. I also think that Cho is a disciple, he seems far to smart to be just a CBI agent.. I remember an épisode where he and Rigsby where waiting in a car, Cho was reading a book..the topic of the book was just too 'high' to fit to a cop.


I know my theory maybe too simple and I would even be disappointed if I was right. Indeed, i wish all of us could be wrong!!!

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Hi guys !

My probleme (and i think OUR probleme) is that i cant answer those questions about trusting Heller!!! :

- Can we trust Heller when he says : " Red John is one of the seven of the list " . I trust him at 70% and dont trust him at 30% (I count well right ? :-p) . If we trust Heller on this point, Then for me RJ is Haffner. If Heller is playing us, then RJ is NOT on the list, and then for me RJ is CBI RON (so weird!!)

- Can we trust heller when he says : " Patridge is dead " . I trust him at 50% (you all know how many % I do NOT trust him right ?!? :-p ) ! If Patridge IS dead, then for me RJ is Haffner once again ! If Patridge IS NOT dead, my bet is on him !

Guys how do YOU trust Heller ??!!??

One more thing, we have all read, few hours ago, an EXCELLENT theory about RJ being MCALLISTER, and i agree with most ( and i can add that i thought that : "HE IS MAR " meant he is Marshal ( but i know à sheriff is NOT à Marshal but maybe the man was confused as i am ! :-p )

But for me MCALLISTER can NOT be RED JOHN because :
1/ he is supposed to be good with computer (he entered the CBI system !) and I dont see him being good with computers (i assume that i can be wrong at 100%)

2/ for me when we saw MCALLISTER + Bertrham + Smith in Bertrham's office in season 6, it was something to PREPARE for what is coming AFTER they catch ReD JOHN ! They do that in almost every show in USA, ( i dont know if i made myslef clear but i feel I'am right 98% ! )


And then, just for curious people, you can spend hours in wikipedia searching for " William Blake" (we know that Heller took à lot of references from him : tyger tyger, Brace of Patridge, the Great Red Dragon, ....) you will find some strange things if you look at this (but it will be way too long here ....)


Ps : I'm sorry for my English, je suis Français donc excusez moi ;-) , and for my IPad auto-correct to French (i havent read what i wrote so it may have a lot of auto correct things)

And dont forget : HoW do YOU TrUsT Bruno HeLLER ??

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I may have missed it but I don't think I saw a theory including this: 

RJ tells Patrick that he knows about that suspect list. Then, one of the suspects gets killed. Now, if that list is bogus, doesn't Patrick realize that he put the remaining suspects in danger? If it is not bogus and the list valid, this still means he put 6 of 7 in danger (one being RJ).

Since we know that Patrick wanted his list to be stolen, I believe he made a list of RJ accomplices that he has no doubt. Either he'll get information out of them by putting some pressure on and waiting for a mistake, or RJ will kill them to prevent this which will cause RJ lose power. In both scenarios Patrick wins. Great plan.

But I have no idea how did he figure out these names. Especially Reede Smith and McAllister are pretty hard to be sure about since they're not that much involved. 

Every single opinion is appreciated, please share your thoughts.

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