Ok- let me first say that I do not really believe that the "lady" feeding the pigeons was Brett Partridge.
BUT, for those of you who do... This will be entertaining!
JACK PLOTNICK ACTUALLY DOES DRESS IN DRAG IN REAL LIFE-
At least for a tv show/ movie titled " girls will be girls"
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OK this isn't a betting game but here's my conception of the odds and a couple of thoughts.
Ray Haffner: 15% chance - overall a strong fit but not a knockout in terms of being an exciting ending because he's just not that great of a villain. Likes Lisbon so he will be be punished. (This is basic TV psychology)
Walter Mashburn: 15% chance - Good villain and remember, he had sex with Lisbon so he's got a big payback coming. Maybe in "He is Mar" the "r" is an incomplete "s". His odds would be a higher if he were on the list of 7 and if we'd seen him in episodes more recently.
Multiple people: 15% - "He is Mar" could be an incomplete "He is Many". Kind of a cop-out but fits what has been going on. This would maybe leave room for the storyline to continue in the future. If this is the case, then Stiles is heavily involved.
McAllister: 10% chance - Smart guy, cagey, and seems pretty creepy in a restrained way. Plus there's extra points for being with the show from the start, because the writers would want to have a go-to guy in case they need to wrap the story up.
Brett Partridge: 10% chance - It would be pretty bogus to pull a zombie trick but as PJ says, anything can happen on TV. Plus he gets points for lurking since the beginning.
Kirkland: 10% - Evil as they come but not a cult leader and incapable of seducing LM. He sure looks like he had a face transplant though.
CBI Ron: 10% chance - A somewhat hokey choice. He'll need some character development real quick to be viable. But potentially an appealing lurker character.
Reede Smith: 5% chance - Likes cold weather because he's fat. This clue fits but many of the others don't, and he really doesn't have much prominence or character development yet.
Bertram and others: 10% combined. Bertram can't win at poker, and he doesn't seem like that strong of a villain.
not a theory, just some thoughts. i really don't have a theory at this point. seems like each suspect has a compelling 'for' and 'against' argument.
i re-watched the 3rd episode tonight, and something about the rigsby/gvp wedding struck a nerve. i feel like i remember reading somewhere that red john referred to his female victims as his 'brides.' (can anyone back me up on that?)
what if the smiley face isn't a smiley face, but a wedding ring symbol.
if we read it in that fashion, then the 'random' female victims become brides, so 'relatives,' and a lot of the other crimes involve 'family:' the sisters kidnapped at the end of the first season (one bride for red john who is killed, one for dumar to be caged), timothy carter and his wife (making it a 'family' affair. and the girl they had kidnapped was in a room like their 'kept daughter.') the baby stolen for laura san giacomo's character, and lorelei and her sister.
i'm reading red john as a twisted 'father figure,' building his 'family' through subtraction. maybe it wasn't that patrick insulted red john with 'sick little man' comments. maybe it was the fact patrick specifically indicated he was helping the police find the killer, and red john saw his 'family' threatened. he responds by killing patrick's family, as a message: 'this is what it felt like you were doing to me.' the other killings done to prevent discovery or hide evidence become red john 'protecting his family.'
This is my off the wall theory that I maybe believe like 15% so I'll see if anyone likes any parts of it. First we all have tried to guess what that meant when the blood on the wall said he is mar or he is man but they were in Mexico and maybe the hooker wrote it and a close Mexican word to that is Hermano meaning brother so what if when Kirkland asked Red Johns friend in the hospital if he recognized him why ask that then kill him maybe Red John is related to Kirkland and he wants to maybe protect him or stop him now this brother theory could work for any of the other suspects so please help me out on this but the Hermano thing could be something just throwing that crazy way out there have fun with it.
I submitted a theory a few minutes ago and I have more to add looking at what I said Tyger Tyger I think stands for two people same name one with one t and the other with two. I think Bret Stiles is Brett Partridges father and it would make sense in so many ways for starters everyone brings up the other poem by william Blake connected to tyger tyger it's called the Lamb and what if one is the bad and the other good it would answer why someone like Partridge is so powerful and Stiles said that you know it is a form of love and Stiles likes Jane but Partridge seems not to. I still think Brett Partridge is Red John but I think Bret Stiles is connected some how father and son and their names and the Tyger Tyger mean something I know it doesn't have much Merit that's why I'm posting it because people on here have good theories and might be able to connect this more and I hope so. So just to be clear I still think it is Partridge but Stiles and him are conncected and Stiles got L Martin out of a Federal Prison I think he can fake his own sons death. Please help me prove this. Thanks again for reading.Jtalent
I said this after the first episode of this season that Brett Partridge is Red John he is a forensic specialist so he could make his death look real and I will list my other reasons. First why did he say tyger tyger to Lisbon so far only people connected to Red john have said that. Second he has been there since the first episode and his voice and other features match. Third he is the only one besides Bret Stiles who hasn't really done suspicious stuff or associated with the other suspects. What better way to throw Patrick off his game then to take himself off the list Bruno Heller said the list is real but he never said what rules can be broken with the list and faking his death would be perfect. When the three suspects Bertram, Mcallister, and Reede are talking they said does he know I think they meant does he know Brett is alive maybe they do work for Red John. I got a lot of people to disagree with me on this and I do think Mcallister is the only other one that makes a great suspect but I don't think Bruno Heller took us on this 8 season ride to reveal something so obvious so I'm going to stick to my theory that it is Brett Partridge and think about this he knew he was a good suspect from the start even without the list people compared his voice and the description of him so it would make sense that Bruno Heller would take him out the first episode so we would forget about him and focus so much on the others that we are blown away when we find out because we aren't even suspecting him anymore. I know many will disagree but I won't change my mind and when it is revealed people can go back and see that it made sense. Also I really like everyone's theories on everyone it takes a lot of detailed thinking to come up with these theories I just hope you guys don't bash me too hard and see that it does make some sense that he would kill Red John off the list first episode he kept his word about the list but is still keeping us in the dark. Thanks for reading my theory.
It’s
extremely difficult to guess who Red John is but just a question/thought…
When
casting for the show, after Simon Baker, who would’ve been next in line to take
the lead role of the Mentalist?
Walter
Mashburn perhaps? As we’ve heard,
Partick Jane and Red John are very much alike. We also have the Tyger poem that
talks about symmetry.
As others have already mentioned on here, Walter Mashburn has both the
characteristics and means to be Red John. He is also on Patrick Jane’s original
scribed list of suspects.
There are many good theories here about different suspects especially the recent
Sheriff ones. Great stuff!