SPOILER ALERT! SPOILER ALERT! DO NOT READ FOLLOWING IF YOU HAVENT SEEN RED LISTED!
Now in the episode red listed Bob Kirkland mentions a twin brother that was a follower of Red John. I dont think Bob is RJ because he is murdered in the end of red listed, but I think that in the episode where Kirkland kills Lennon, a known red john accomplice, it is his twin brother who killed him so he wouldnt reveal who RJ is
Hey i need to get answers to some questions.
1) Y did BOB KIRKLAND ask if anyone recognized him before killing.May be BOB's twin might be RJ nurtured by Bret Stiles.
2) In season 2 before dying he wrote "HE IS MAR" --- Could it be "HE IS MARSHAL"--- THIS WOULD MAKE TOM RJ.
3) IF RJ wanted to kill High tower he could have done it because if jane could find her so could RJ...it seems that hightower is some how connected to RJ coz she came to jane's rescue when BOB kidnapped him...these kind of things are probably done by RJ's order.
4) 4th episode also eliminated Reede Smith as RJ for obvious reasons like he called himself a "low level guy"
5) If BOB's twin is RJ then that would make the RJ list half true...
i am confused !!!!!!!!!!
not bob but his brother micheal.
It is CBI Ron for a lot of reasons already stated by others. "But wait" you say... "'CBI Ron' is not on the list."
However, a "Brett Styles" Jr. using the Alias "Ron" might be.
I think that will be the twist and how the producers can openly say Red John is on the list BUT still have a surprise with someone who doesn't seem to be on the list but ~technically~ is.
So Ron is Red John
Ron's real name is "Brett Styles Jr"
Brett Styles is on the list.
I think I found out what was so important in the season premiere. Let's base in the fact that there's no punctual reason why red john would want to reveal himself to Jane.
Given this, there's a contradiction between RJ saying Tyger tyger to Jane in S2 finale, considering it like a clue to RJ's identity. Why would he gave up a clue about himself? This is confirmed by Pattridge spelling the same words to Lisbon when he's dying. Why would he reveal those words if they were a clue to RJ?
If Pattridge was a RJ follower he'd have died willingly, because we know he demands sacrifice, and no point in saying a word. If he was treasoned by RJ, he would have speaked the plain name. If he wasn't a follower then why would he say Tyger tyger? And even more, why to Lisbon, who is a direct phone to Jane?
Would RJ want that? Maybe. But this is what I think. Tyger Tyger is a code (as we already know) for a certain mafia within california law enforcement. A very extended net of "cooperation" between the cops. It's a secret organisation, ofc. And a lot of cops take part on it, this is why Pattridge thought Lisbon was part of it and said the password to her.
Bertam, Smith and Mccalister are part of that organisation, therefore their concern about how much "does Jane know", and given that Kirkland started to unwrap the secret, he had to be eliminated. None of this three is red John. considering the three of them are in the "tyger tyger" net, the treat between them in the office was very horizontal.
Had one of them been Red John, the other two would have looked up to him to see what was next. But this behaviour didn't take place in that scene.
So, out of 5 remaining (accepting is one of the original 7 listed), thee have been taken down. Leaving us with Haffner and Styles. I think between those two it's a pretty arbitrary yet obvious choice.
However, let me also point this out. In S2, Red John was giving Jane a clue about this secret organisation, maybe if that mafia fell he would have been the next in the list to run the CBI?
I don't know, I think this theory could be pull even further with more ellaboration, so give it some thought
Right, so we have a conspiracy on our hands. We know Bertram, Smith and McAllister are involved, probably Haffner, but what about Stiles? He has no links to law enforcement, so why would he be a member of a secret club?
My guess is that Stiles Visualize collective is feuding with the Tyger Tyger club.
My other guess is that McAllister is running the show, which would probably make him Red John.
I really can't say a damn name !!!
Yes, I AM CONFUSED
I try though to tell you two name but the fact that NON of the suspect is fit red john discreption its what bother me.. thats why:
We still have 5 suspect left:
- Mcallister: he is a member of that "Tyger Tyger" stuff but he dousnt afraid from hights and we're not sure about his penjuin issue.. so he may and may not.
- Ray is a member of the visualize but he is muscular so he doesnt fit what Rozalind said.. and I think that he left the cbi and started his own detective thing.. so maybe he is not a tyger tyger type.
- Reede : he is young and doesnt fit sophie's and rozalind description but! Maybe he killed Bob because he want it to be just between him and jane.. and maybe because he think that Bob well know that he's dirty.
Brett stiles: you know.. he is old and he is not a cop so tyger tyger do not fit him but he is visualize founder so maybe he is much intelligent than we thought. And if he is not red john maybe he know him well or he relative to him some how.
Bertram: for sure he is know who red john is im posetive.. but i dont know if he red john or not.. he is in cbi forever and he watch jane so that's why he might be red john.. and in all season's he always tell the others to watch jane and he didnt fired jane?! But i read that if he is red john that sophie will know him but i dont think that they met! His position is high so i dont think that he is
Meeting suspects!
Im really thrilled to know more!