Who is Red John?

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List of seven

Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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Here is a wild theory that popped into my head the other day.

Brett Partridge has always been the number one suspect for good reason, because Brett Partridge WAS Red John.

He is really dead. He was killed in Episode 1 of Season 6 by a new unknown killer who may or may not be a Tiger Tiger member.

We will see the other suspects all be killed off or eliminated from being suspects (even though they have shady aspects to them) as the truth emerges that it was Partridge all along.

This moves the show on to a new era with the question changing from "Who is Red John?" to "Who KILLED Red John?" and how should Patrick react to the killer who was able to "get" Red John and rob Patrick of the chance of vengence (which is what has been driving him for years).

The killing of Partridge did not seem like a Red John killing, especially with what happened to Lisbon. Have there been any confirmed Red John killings since Partridge died? The Lorelei video suggested that he would be going on a killing spree, but that has not happened.

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I have this feeling sometimes...
Most well-paid figurant ever. He is everywhere, all the time.
Damn Ron


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooNrdGQ854Q

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This may be a dumb questions, but whatever happened to LaRoche?

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well.. no reason. hes just too lovable and clumsy. as a sociopath he might be doing that on purpose. everyone who knows red john seem to be under his 'spell' so to say.. Rigsby most definitely look like he could not hurt a fly but i can easily imagine him as a bad childhood screw up who just also happens to be very smart.

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Theory #6845 • By dream868686
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I think that the author of the series to bring the story of the organization to become the interpretation that Red John is Patrick Jane logically then we can explain the crimes carried out by Red John or Patrick Jane, by his side The dark and evil through his organization was not with his hands but under his leadership and this explains the contradictions or interview Red John for Patrick Jane, I think that the story of Organization prelude to this end,,,,


  there are those who believe that??

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First of all, I apologize for my English (if I have in mistakes) in advance. It is
not my first language.

  


So here are my theories:




 

1) I think Red John is Ray Haffner. He is the only one out
of the 7 suspects that fits the description perfectly. (Under 6 feet tall, has
short straight hair, middle aged, of average built *not too soft, not too hard*, and a good whistler!)



 

2) Ray mentioned that he was a troubled teen and that
Visualize took interest in him and helped him out. And that is how he learned
all of his tricks on how to manipulate people and be ahead of the game, from
Visualize.




 

3) Brett Stiles knows Ray’s true identity. And the reason
why he hasn’t said anything about him is because Stiles cares about him. When
Ray first joined Visualize, he must have gotten very close to Stiles and formed
a strong bond with him to the point where Stiles sees him as a younger brother
or a son. That could also explain why Stiles is helping him out with funding
his firm.




 

4) The “Tyger, Tyger” organization is a group of corrupted
law enforcements.




 

5) Gale Bertram, Thomas McAllister, and Reede Smith are a part
of the “Tyger, Tyger” organization. So was Brett Partridge.

 




6) Red John is probably a part of the “Tyger, Tyger”
organization too, but I don’t think any of the three main members (Bertram,
McAllister, Smith) know his true identity nor do I think he is the leader of
the organization. He probably joined them for their power and the connections
they have. And he only recruits certain people into his cult from Visualize,
“Tyger, Tyger, and outsiders as well. They are aware though that he is a part
of them and that is why they are interested in Jane’s discoveries and theories about
him. They want to find out who he is so they can get rid of him because they
see him as a threat to the organization.

 




7) Red John recited the poem to Jane as a friendly warning
and to raise his awareness to the “Tyger, Tyger” organization. Maybe the other
members have their eyes set on Jane and Red John wants to keep him alive.




8) In the season six premiere, Jane must have scared
Partridge when he eyed him and talked to him. Partridge probably shared his
concerns with the other members and they could sense that he is about to break
and rat out on the organization and that is why Red John killed him. The reason
why he didn’t kill Lisbon is because Ray obviously has a thing for her. He just
dragged her out to the scene of the crime to scare her and Jane so they can
back off a bit. 




9) Now let’s come to Bob Kirkland. When he was in the
hospital with Lennon, he asked him if he ever saw his face before to find out
information about his twin brother and to know if he was alive or not. He killed
Lennon out of anger and vengeance. He couldn’t drag him out to an isolated
place and torture him because Lennon was already in the hospital and was held
in custody. And he didn’t want Jane to find out any other information about Red
John because he wanted Red John all for himself. Reede Smith killed him
so that Jane doesn’t get to him and find out the information he holds
about the organization.

 

10) In the upcoming episodes, there will be flashbacks of a young Red John. The actor portraying him looks like a young Haffner as well. :D LOOK HIM UP.


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ok so i was right about kirkland woo hooo now onto my theory i have been watching the red listed episode about 10 times just the kirkland and jane part and the ending with smith. i believe that bertram, reed, and mcallister have nothing to do with red john what gave me this idea is if red john knows the list which he does why would mcallister, reed and bertram look so confused at each other when reed says what does jane really know that gives me the idea that they are not involved with red john but have there own secret cbi, fbi, sheriff , doj underground organization also bertram seems eager to catch red john i believe the reason for that is to eliminate red john which is the ultimate threat to the organization. now for my red john theory just a theory new light has been shed upon me on the episode 4 red listed jane is very very smart telling lisbon the list seems to me very upfront for jane in the past even with lives at risk is he very honest and open with anything the list to me is either people who are in the eyes of jane are red john or his disciples leave mcallister,smith,and bertram out just for a second now we have stiles and haffner to me none of these could be red john why stiles yes sociopath con artist he uses peoples loneliness and depression against them in my eyes hes red john but with out the killing people also he does know who red john is why red john use to be part of visualize why did he get kicked out maybe he had a different approach to using visualize to kill people or to hurt people stiles does not condone killing people remember the episode were the lawyer killed the girl in visualize he slapped him and said please tell me you had nothing to do with killing that poor girl" yes in that episode the friend said they would kill her visualize is very powerful  i am sure you can not just quit a cult but as you can see people can quit also why would stiles say to jane i know more than you or red john would ever know why remember the vent videos were you air out all your sins and most worst things you have done well red john is in one of those videos i believe thats were the young man character comes into play in later episodes why do you think visualize is so involved ray haffner in my eyes is sent by stiles to keep on eye out for visualize because when jane catches or kills him visualize is going to be on the chopping block so i do not know who red john is bruno heller remember the mentalist is his baby in interviews he is not going to tell you the truth just look at his show its very deceiving just like heller but in a good way also yes me have seen red john since episode 1 but were in the back ground infront of your face we do not know, for me everyone is on my list even cho, rigsby, lisbon, van pelt, janes father brother in law but the people i know for sure are the ones on the actual list they are not red john but what makes it interesting is finding michael kirkland bob kirkland said i never seen my brother again maybe in future episodes he will be found either he is in visualize or part of red john i will leave with these last words remember red john was in visualize so he uses the same tricks as stiles if you notice red john uses the weak minded ex drug addicts cons people that have nothing to lose i doubt a fbi agent a director of cbi and a sheriff would be desciples they are not weak minded but strong minded enough to make there own organization why reed smith would kill kirkland so he would not tell jane about the organization. one last thing in prior theories i did say kirkland wants revenge for either a family member or i thought he was the boy friend to lorelies sister. as for partridge do not count him out yet remember heller is very deceiving and he could keep the actors names out of the episodes.

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