Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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The Hightower conundrum is solved by Tiger Tiger trying to kill her, not Red John.  At no point do I recall that we know that O'Laughlin was working for Red John. He may have been part of Tiger Tiger instead.  My biggest question now becomes how did Timothy Carter know to be in the food court.  He would have had to have Bertram's office bugged?

O'Laughlin belonging to Tiger Tiger and killing Todd Johnson makes more sense than Red John having him killed.  The police officers killed by Todd Johnson were being weeded out by Tiger Tiger.  Remember Todd Johnson said that "this is bigger than you could image," similar to what Reede Smith said to Kirkland.

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This would be a great surprise.  Brett Partridge was Red John and Tiger Tiger killed him.  That would solve the problem that Red John is on the list, but he will not be revealed in Sunday's episode, leaving one more episode to determine that he was Red John.  Secondly, the Roslind Harker problem can be solved the same way as Timothy Carter.  Perhaps Roy Tagliaferro, Timothy Carter, etc are minions of Red John and Harker's description becomes irrelevant.

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Hi, 

I am re-watching some important episodes and trying to understand the underlying presumptions that we have and never challenges or didn't find any answers for.

Please help me in reviewing these questions and finding answers to them to find RJ based on the best theories.



1. Why did RJ want to kill Hightower by risking so many of his links? Why so much insistence?!


2. What happened to Kristina Frye? Why is no-one contacting her anymore after being free from RJ?


3. Why did Kirkland kill Jason Lennon? 

 One Answer)  Is it because he thinks he might be RJ? (I don't buy the fact that we are suddenly going to see a new character as his twin! That's too dramatic!)

4. How did RJ guess the list?


5. Why Jane doesn't take the suspects to Rosalynd Harker?


6. Why tell the list to CBI and talk about it everywhere easily when RJ has spies in police?


7. What is the "biggest clue" in 6.1 Bruno Heller was talking about?


8. Relation between Tiger Tiger group and RJ?


9.Why didn't RJ kill TL? Is this the clue?


10. What is RJ's next move after the list is revealed? Why RJ killed Brett partridge first? Why did he say tiger tiger? 


11. Why bugging Cho by Amateur PI? Who killed her? Was it RJ or someone else with other intentions bugged and killed her with a different style.


ONE APPROACH FOR THE SOLUTION: Let's put ourselves in PJ's shoes! What would he really do, based on all other episodes we have watched so far in any single case? He would design a trick.

But what is the structure of his tricks?

a) Everything initiates with a smart guess! based on a single clue, which seems unimportant.

b) He should leverage that information which the killer/RJ doesn't know (in most cases even CBI don't know, unless he needs people to work out the plan for him and in these cases TL and Agent Cho are his more trustworthy companions.) 
 
c) He becomes the proactive player of the game, something that police couldn't become, because they are morally and ethically and legally banned to do! Then he makes the killer/RJ become the reactive player. To do something based on incidental action, without thinking about the long-term consequences.

d) He uses deceitful techniques to diverge everyone's attention to somewhere where it is not important from somewhere that the real action is going on.
 And...

e) he patiently waits for the killer's move like going to a fishing in a camping trip!


     Now! Based on this: Maybe we can answer some of the questions by disecting the RJ case based on this structure:

5) 7) 9)

Maybe Rosalynd Harker (Katrine and Hightower) are the clue/leverages that PJ is using, but he deflects the attention of the team in a way that she is safe and PJ can verify the real killer by her. We know whenever the CBI, FBI and hence RJ pays attention to a witness, he/she is really in danger! 

Maybe not killing the TL is one big leverage, or something else that could be found in the last scenes of episode one, something that has made PJ to guess and find RJ has done something wrong and therefore initiate the trick.

6) 10) 11)

Maybe these thing are happening since RJ and the whole CBI team's attention have been deflected in the game that PJ has been designed. Maybe PJ is now in control of the game, by making RJ angry or confused! Maybe PJ has provoked the Red Dragon to come out of his Cave without prior planning for the first time of the show!

8)

The only thing that remains is the role of Tiger Tiger group. To decode this role, one should guess to whom are they closer? Are they closer to RJ or PJ or none of them? How about their actions? Is it helping PJ or RJ in long-term? Are they part of the Patrick's game also or they are a nuisance for his plans? An unwelcome inevitable consequence of devising a trick to provoke the bad guys?! Or are they making it harder for RJ to stay undercover and do whatever RJ wants and therefore loose his temper and cool?

 That's my two cents! Please mention your reasonable challenging questions, and you could also formulate an answer for them using the structure I've mentioned. 

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Heller's statement about serial make no sense. I mean there something wrong about it, have you ever seen any producer telling a fact about his/her serial in real world? How this is possible even all cast signing confidentiality agreement , how might Heller can tell " RJ in the list " or not???

If he is doing something like this , that also means that his story telling style is not enough tell itself in fantasy world, a support for more explanation is required from outer real world(Heller's statements) This is a Dilemma ; 

Either this serial not good enough to story itself because of that story needs Heller's support from real world to story world ,or Heller is manipulating audience.He has to accept one of these two options,no other option is available.

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This guy Ron is really bothering me. I am suspicious about him. Why is he around so much lately ???!!

In the episode where RJ draws a smiley on Lisbon and he calls PJ, before PJ get an answer he met this guy while holding his phone. :/ and it was ringing until he went around the corner... hmm.. I am wondering!!
lol just sharing.

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First time submitting a theory, but long time watcher.

First off a couple things that need to be reviewed:

1. I think assuming that Heller is going to tell us the truth is a bit naive, his role as the creator is not to appease fans by giving away the ending, but to build suspense so we WATCH the ending. So, I think its very possible that Heller saying the RJ list is accurate could be a lie. Remember The Office series finale, and the many times we were told Michael Scott would not return by the creators? 

2. I think it would be show suicide to have RJ be PJ. They have spent 6 years making us like PJ, root for him, and want him to find RJ. To make PJ the villain now, would anger too many viewers. Not to mention there is going to be another season, and no one would watch if it turned out to be PJ and very little direction left to go. 

3. If RJ was Brett Stiles, then he would have known that PJ was going to spring Lorelai out of prison, and would have coached her to say the things he wanted PJ to know. She would not have revealed the part about him shaking hands with RJ, and would have been coached down to the last word. As RJ has in the past with his other minions. 

4. In order to "read" PJ's mind, and therefore create the same suspects list, he would have logically needed info on all the cases PJ has worked to know who PJ has suspected was tied to RJ in the past. 


So with that in mind I have three theories I am working with now:

1. I think there was a "red john" once perhaps, but he died, and the Tyger Tyger guys could be a group of fans who are committing copycat killings in his name. Therefore the list is accurate because RJ is Bertram, Reed, and the Sheriff all together. The upper circle of a dangerous off-shoot of the Visualization cult, who kill for pleasure. Stiles doesn't like them because he doesn't want to them to be associated with visualize, but at the same time looks the other way because they were once part of visualize. It explains how he seemingly beats PJ to the punch every time, and how he is able to recruit so many different minions to do his bidding. 


2. Red John is not on the list, and allowing Lorelai to reveal his shaking hands with PJ in the past was planned, and he has actually purposely given PJ info that he knows would lead to the list of 7 PJ being created. RJ has been blackmailing the tyger tyger group to do his bidding, or he would reveal the secret violent cult of police, FBI, etc to the world. Now the Tyger Tyger group is getting too powerful, so he uses PJ's insane obsession with him to also get Jane to investigate the Tyger Tyger group and reveal their existence. Basically purposely leading him down the rabbit hole to getting rid of Tyger Tyger, all the while the list doesn't contain RJ. This explains why RJ would have allowed PJ to continue the crusade, and taunted him to do it quickly or people would die, and why the Tyger Tyger guys seem to be both pro-RJ and anti-RJ (they worry if RJ is caught he will reveal their existence) and why RJ seems to have such wide resources and intelligence. 

3. RJ is Brett Stiles son and Tyger Tyger is totally separate and not actually linked to RJ other than they have all been the handling the dirty secrets for visualize for many years. They all know that RJ is Stiles's son, their leader's son, and are desperately trying to protect him, and their leader. Stiles feels guilty he has created a monster, but is also deeply proud of his son's ability to manipulate people which he learned from him. So his uses visualize resources to protect him when needed. This explains the connection with visualize, the resources, and where RJ might have learned how to read and manipulate people so well. It also explains why Stiles has helped PJ along, without revealing anything about RJ in the process. 




Let me know what you think of my theories!!??


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Rigsby is not Red John, end of story.

The evidence : http://i.imgur.com/kzPbN17.jpg 

Yeah there is no tatto! 

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