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Kristina Frye is a mentalist as Patrick Jane . She is so damn clever . she some times solves things before Patrick Jane does . And when the scene happened that Red John kidnapped her . she took her passport with her and her stuff . Red john didn't kill her because she is Red John . when she decided to come back and show her self , she claims that she was hypnotized to believe that she is dead so that Jane doesn't suspect her . And If you rewatched S2 E22 and E23 and the day that she return you will find out her actions . She shook hands with Patrick Jane and they we're not friends . remember when Jane went to the bathroom :) . He was gonna tell her some thing that he can't stay with her , but he got a call for the office .

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Taking the names of  "Roy Tagliaferro + Red John", we can unscramble the letters out to compose "lady or tiger" (I still don't know what to do with the remaining "j-a-f-n-r-e-o-r-o-h-" letters, but I'm working on that), which leads us to a very famous short story written by Frank R. Stockton - "The lady or the tiger?". If you read this short story you'll see it fits fine to the show's events line, but most importantly, I think we've been checking that William Blake's poem on the wrong way: it may be just a clue to give us the word "tiger", which means other clues are yet to be released.

Anyway, back to the short story, there's a semi-barbaric king, whose sense of justice was quite peculiar (you have to read the story to understand). But just a crazy idea: what if Red John is some sort of a king (a public authority)? Even further: what if "he is ma" stands for "he is mayor..."? We'd better check that.


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The identity of Red John. This will be written as a persuasive argument rather than purely evidential analysis.
First, Bruno Heller has been quoted as saying the astute observer will figure out Red John's Identity (no citation).Although I don't have a link for where I heard that, we should take it as an invitation to apply our minds to discover Red John's identity. 
I will walk you through several things and I'll start with Red John's personality. This will be referenced as part A.A)1 - He has the capacity to be "the greatest man I've ever met." (Quote from several of his disciples, one being Rebecca, the woman who killed Bosco's team.)2 - He is skilled in espionage, a conclusion that can be derived from all his moles scattered about the CBI and FBI.3 - Red John believes in transformation. This is evidenced in the way he turns his disciples. Lorelei tells us that she cannot be hurt because she's already faced her greatest fear, losing her sister (unbeknownst to her, at the hands of Red John). It's as though he recognizes that deep personal trauma is what is required to change someone's personality.4 - Red John takes extreme vengeance for personal attacks. This can be observed by the punishment he brought down upon Patrick. He elects the deepest kind of suffering for his victims.5 - Red John believes that he is part of something greater, some kind of righteous idea. There are several references to this, one from Red John himself when he offers partnership to Jane in the season 4 finale, "it's a higher path Patrick, a nobler existence." Rebecca also explains that Red John is on a higher mission. He Also hates "cheap imitations," of his work.6 - Red John is truly attracted to Rosalind Harker in a special way. One thing that can be noted regarding Harker is that Red John never actually uses her to achieve an end, like he did with Rebecca and Lorelei. In fact, Red John (to our knowledge) hasn't even told Harker that he is Red John. In addition, Red John lets her live in harmony. All of this on top of the fact that they were lovers.7 - His original trademark killings were highly intimate. He would kill his victims by slicing their throat (in his early days he used a stun gun as well). Also, he specifically targeted women. This indicates that he has some hatred towards women.8 - Red John loves to play games. When he kills the man who threatened to reveal his identity in Mexico (the infamous "he is mar" incident), he calls Jane and laughs. That's it, he just laughs, a true show of immaturity in his victory. His mind games are also readily apparent in his dealings with Jane. Just look to the poem "Tyger Tyger," to see this.9 - Red John is rich. While not really a personality trait, it is still relevant. This is a conclusion that can be arrived at by several facts: he can give people new lives.
After analyzing Red John's personality, finding him in the cast will be much easier to do. However, first I would like to analyze his transformation. This will be referenced as part B.B)1 - Red John has himself experienced trauma. (Evidenced by A3) 2 - That trauma was at the hands of a woman. (Evidenced by A7) 3 - That trauma also changed him into what he is now, a serial killer. (Evidenced by A3)4 - The trauma also produced a coping mechanism, a belief that the trauma changed him for the better. In psychology, this is called reappraisal. In order to deal with terrible hardship, we have to believe that the events worked in our favor. In Red John's case, the trauma put him on a "higher path." (Evidenced by 5)
This is how our serial killer was produced. This knowledge will also make it easier to identify him in the cast.
Let's analyze a particular character in the cast and match him up against Red John. The character I will be analyzing is Walter Mashburn.1 - Mashburn is rich, matching up with A9.2 - Mashburn was left by his fiancee that he was deeply in love with and it changed him, revealed in season 3, episode Red Hot. This matches up with B1 B2 and A3.3 - Mashburn took revenge upon the man who stole his fiancee, Yuri Bajoran (Red Hot), in the way that gave Yuri the deepest suffering. Mashburn forced Yuri to sell him his "baby," so that Yuri would wake up every morning knowing that Mashburn had beat him. This parallels with the punishment Red John put down on Jane, and also matches up with A4.4 - Mashburn's fiancee looks like Rosalind Harker, particularly their hair. A very interesting observation is that the actress for Mrs. Bajoran looks extremely different than Mrs. Bajoran. They changed her hair length and color, even her eyebrow color. In fact, they changed it to the point where it looked similar to the actress who plays Ms. Harker. Why would the creators go out of their way to change the actress' appearance so much for such a minor role that got maybe five minutes of screen time? Unless the purpose was to allow the viewer to draw the similarity in appearance. Here are two links that show you the two women: Harker: http://www.tvfanatic.com/2009/03/alicia-witt-to-guest-star-on-the-mentalist/Bajoran: http://www.free-tv-video-online.me/player/veevr.php?id=SWJLvhSyf (this is the red hot episode)This demonstrates that Mashburn has the same taste in women as Red John and matches A6.5 - Masburn is extremely charming. This is evidenced by Lisbon's attraction to him (super tension) and his wife's description of him. This matches up with A1.6 - Mashburn has an immaturity about him, a type of childish boredom. He also continously expresses the desire to be the killer in particular cases and tells Jane all he has to do is catch him. This matches A8.7 - Mashburn excels and is experienced in corporate espionage. During his takeover of Yuri's business, he demonstrates his ability to turn people against Yuri and use them to spy on him. This ability to manipulate matches up with A2.
So far, we see that Mashburn has the catalysts needed to turn into a serial killer, the same catalysts that can be deduced from Red John's personality and behavior. 
Replies to anticipated objections.1 - How come Jane didn't figure this out already?Red John is highly intelligent. Furthermore, we know that Jane has met Red John and not figured it out, so someone has slipped past Jane's analysis. Also, Red John would have to hide behind a persona so that Jane's analysis would pick up the persona rather than the Red John hidden inside. The persona Mashburn uses is "bored millionaire," although he assures Jane that he is "ruthless."2 - What about the infamous "he is mar?" The dead man did not have blood on his hands and he is not facing the writing. The writing was not finished, so the conclusion is that he did not write it. The girl, however, her hand rests underneath the blood trail coming down from the R. In addition, she is facing the writing on the wall. This means that, "he is mar," has to be describing Red John in such a way that someone who did not know him would describe him from seeing him. This narrows down the possibilities dramatically from what the dead man could have written. He is married is the most likely possibility and the only way she could have known that he was married is by seeing a wedding ring! Mashburn wears a wedding ring despite not being married. This is probably the ring that Mrs. Bajoran gave back to him when she left him for Yuri. Jane also wears his ring from the marriage with his dead wife.3 - Mashburn isn't in enough episodes! He only appears in season 2 and 3.This link: http://reviewbrain.wordpress.com/2012/04/18/currie-graham-interview/ Reveals that Carrie Graham (actor for Mashburn) is in contact with a writer for the mentalist and may be seen again in season 5. 
One random note on Mashburn's behavior. In redline (season 2), Mashburn asks Jane in the end, "Did Lisbon really think I was the killer?" (Earlier he expressed sadness when Lisbon said she thought he might be the killer, as if it really hurt him to have her think he was capable of such a thing). When Jane replies, "Yes, but don't think much of it," Mashburn shuts the door, turns around and smiles. One might ask, why in the world would Mashburn smile at something that previously made him sad? The answer, I believe, is that he was really asking, "Did YOU think I could have been the killer." I think he was asking to see if Jane expressed belief in him being a killer, and of course Jane made it obvious that never suspected Mashburn. The fact that Jane didn't suspect Mashburn for a second brought him joy, to be so close to Jane and totally avoid his suspicion, what an accomplishment for Red John. This is the only explanation I can think ofto account for Mashburn's smile.
A few observations1 - Mashburn has played dumb for Jane before. In redline he says to lisbon, "you have a damaged intensity that is very attractive." He knew that Cho liked motorcycles with seemingly no data. He knew that Lisbon had trust issues. Also, Mashburn analyzed himself from Jane's perspective, meaning he was well aware of what personality he presented to Jane. In red hot, Mashburn says, "it's amazing how this man reads people, I wish I had the skill," (he says this in a confident self-assured tone).2 - Mashburn has said you can get away with anything if you plan it right to Jane's face. In addition, he told Jane it would be cool if next time they met, Mashburn was the killer.3 - Mashburn said he had friends in power, the sheriff's department the mayor. What's interesting is that in the episode entitled "Red John's Friends," we discover that Red John is friends with a sheriff. Different sheriffs albiet, but still a parallel.
Trivia1 - If Mashburn is Red John, then he murdered Jane's wife and slept with Lisbon, Jane's two loves. (Jane has said that he loves Lisbon in the season 4 finale.)2 - Red John has his own particular "sound," that is exclusive to him. One example of the sound is in this link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgvXfZK9dnw The sound occurs at 1:59. It sounds like "dun dun dun dun." To me it sounds like four strikes of a low note on the piano (I have no skill in music whatsoever and have almost no ability to identify intsruments from their sounds). In fact, if you can identify the instrument or synthesizer or whatever it is making the sound, I would be greatful. This sound that is only played for Red John cases can be heard in the background of red hot. Here's the link: http://www.free-tv-video-online.me/player/veevr.php?id=SWJLvhSyfThe sounds occur at 30:56 in a slightly different tone and in super low volume (obviously to somewhat mask the parallel). The people I've shown this to (people with greater musical inclinations that I) agree that it has the same rhythm, etc. Red John's sound is played during Mrs. Bajoran's explanation of how Walter changed when she broke his heart (the story of the creation of Red John). These sounds are what first made me think of Walter.3 - Walter gives to charity. Higher purpose?
I hope my argument has persuaded you. Unfortunately, you will no longer be surprised when Walter is shown to be Red John. I semi-apologize for spoiling this for you.

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Theory #959 • By Jisbonlove98
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I think it must be him because he is always there and he sounds like red john, I don't want red john to be Patrick because the story will not be as good.... oh and Bruno if you read this I have an idea for a episode just breath... Patrick gets abducted in his room up stairs of the office at night, the next day Lisbon goes to get Jane but he is gone.. there is a note... well any way further on in the episode Lisbon and the team find the car Jane and the kidnapper were in but the car had skidded of a cliff and it was at the bottom, the driver was gone and Patrick was handcuffed and gaged in the back seat barley breathing, Lisbon calls the ambulance and slightly cries... in the hospital after a few days Jane wakes up finding Lisbon at his side asleep and him with a broken arm........ there you go Bruno my episode there is a lot more to that but you can edit or  add to it as much as you want.... oh and p.s I'm a huge fan of the mentalist and please don't let red john be Patrick :(

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I have many theories on who red john may be, but what I want to know is WHERE THE HELL ARE THE NEW EPISODES. two weeks ago the mentalist didn't air because of the survivor finale and last week they show a rerun? this is getting ridiculous. 100+ episodes and we still have no idea who red john is. I am starting to loose interest in this show very fast.

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What do you think about Handshake induction it's a hypnosis technique.Just search on the internet,is very interesting. Maybe RJ hypnotized PJ when they shook hands and RJ is not on the PJ list,because he don't remember when they shook hands or is a member of the CBI that use hypnosis to misguide Jane(1.is possible to shook hands more that once and 2. is possible to use hypnosis on jane when they are working on a case).
 "If you don't want your subject to know what you are doing, you simply distract their attention, usually by some appropriate remark, and casually terminate. Sometimes they remark, "What did you say? I got absentminded there for a moment and wasn't paying attention to anything." This is slightly distressing to the subjects and indicative of the fact that their attention was so focused and fixated on the peculiar hand stimuli that they were momentarily entranced so they did not hear what was said."it's on wiki.
I think the "shooke hand" it's more that a simple shooke hand ori my theory is to complicated.

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Personally I believe the original Red John could be dead. I
believe Patrick Jane killed the real Red John years ago and now either is aware
that he is Red John because he was sent truly insane by his wife and child’s
murder or that he has created the alter-ego so that he has something to live
for; the pursuit of revenge. I don’t think either idea is outlandish or
far-fetched given the subject matter of Jane’s abilities to anticipate and
manipulate human behaviour.



Also, whether
Jane being Red John is believable or not to people, how can we account for Red
John’s obsession with Jane? Before Jane’s family was murdered Red John was a
notorious and prolific killer, since then his murders are few and far between,
and most of them surround Jane’s life or people who are getting too close to
his identity. Red John, since Jane’s wife and child were killed, has not acted
like a serial killer; more like someone with a different agenda entirely. His
whole world seems to revolve around Patrick Jane and vice versa. Why is this? Before
Red John killed his family Jane was basically a con man and had no real
discernible history that would make Red John think he was the ultimate
‘opponent’ so why would Red John dedicate himself to Jane’s misery so devoutly?
If it is to test himself, then he has proved time and again that he is elusive
to Jane and CBI so what does he have left to prove? The semantics of Jane being
Red John may be convoluted but the motives of Red John fit only with the idea
that he is Jane himself, in my humble opinion.

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