Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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I'm not acussing Bertram but i have to choose somebody...I don't understand the people who said accusing Partridge is stupid because Bruno Heller told us that he's dead...but they acussing mashburn or rigsby...Heller also told the list is real so I asume you people are stupid too?! Nobody is stupid they just try to say what they fell...And all we already saw a lot of crazy things in this show...I think the only person lying is Bruno because it's the best for the show...He also told us Patrick will face Red John on season 3 finale but he didn't...unless it was Bertram the only person patrick confront besides Carter...Hope you guys enjoy the show! And thanks for sharing!!

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I think people may be jumping to conclusions with this whole
'Tyger, Tyger' gang thing.

 



What do we really know about it?

We only really know what Kirkland
and Smith said to each other, and what Kirkland
said to Jane, yet we have no reason to believe either of them, as Smith was
obviously playing Kirkland, Kirkland
didn’t want to give too much away to Smith, and Kirkland was in effect competing against
Jane.


 



We know Red John uses the same phrase, and Red John's
accomplices do as well, often when they die.

 



We know Kirkland was investigating a series of coverups
within California law enforcement and that he believes (as far as he told Smith
at least) that it's a secret organisation of dirty cops and agents that use the
phrase 'Tyger, Tyger' as a password.

 



We know Reede Smith and the prison guard are in on it.

 



What we DON'T know is if Kirkland’s theory of the situation around the
coverups is true. His investigations may have led to incorrect conclusions, or
he may have been lying or telling a 'half-truth' to Smith on the bench.


 



Secondly, if it is simply a group of dirty cops and agents
covering up each others crimes, it doesn't make sense to me that Smith would
want to kill Kirkland.
Kirkland was already done for, he'd murdered someone, surely he'd want in,
given his actions and his inquiry with Smith on the park bench, it would seem
that way, Kirkland was already a 'dirty agent'.


 



To me, the whole 'Tyger, Tyger' thing only makes sense if
this group of corrupt law enforcers are in fact simply Red Johns disciples. No
extra level of corruption, just what we know already.

 



If Red John did have influence over a network of dirty cops
and agents (which we know he does) then by extension they would be required to
cover up each others crimes, and it would appear to an external investigator as
if there was an underground group of dirty cops. Kirkland either had it wrong and simply
hadn't connected up the dots, or he didn't want to give everything away to
Smith on the park bench.


 



When Smith told Kirkland the "truth" and told him
to start running, he was only telling him what he needed to, in order to get
him to run, he had no reason to actually tell him the truth behind the 'Tyger,
Tyger' thing.

 



As far as I’m concerned, nothing has changed in that
respect. There is no secret organisation of corrupt cops other than the already
established network of Red John’s disciples.

 



Now, as far as Brett Partridge is concerned, if Tyger Tyger
are simply Red John’s disciples, then it makes perfect sense that they could
have covered up his ‘death’, and allowed him to fake his death.

This is the only explanation I can see so far as to why Red
John would want to kill Partridge. We’ve been offered to explanation for it so
far, not even speculation on Jane’s part, and there’s been no investigation
into it. But it has essentially removed him from the list, which could have
been exactly what Red John wanted, to gain the upper hand.

 



Heller also said that Partridges death happened for a reason
and happened at that point in time for a key reason.

 



As others have said, the next episode features Patrick
confronting the remaining five suspects, two episodes early. Surely this can
only mean that Red John is not one of those five, and therefore must be
Partridge.

 



I think Brett Partridge is Red John.


I think Tyger Tyger is Red John’s own personal cult inspired
by Visualise and his network of disciples, and the whole deal with Kirkland’s investigation
is a red herring.

 



I would be content if it turned out to be Haffner or Stiles
though if a decent enough back story is provided, but I think they’ll eliminate
Stiles in the next episode.

 


Bertam, McAllister and Smith I can’t see working at all, but
at least Smith is in the Tyger Tyger, AKA one of Red Johns disciples, so
perhaps all three could be as well.

 



As for building up Tyger Tyger to become the new focus in
the next season, I think Tyger Tyger have grown too big for RJ to control, that’s
why he keeps slipping up lately, too many people to manipulate and keep track of. Someone else in Tyger Tyger wants the
limelight and will step into RJ’s shoes when he’s captured. Either way, after RJ is captured or killed or whatever happens, his disciples will still be out there, Tyger Tyger will still be out there, and without a leader it will change the dynamic of the group.

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Last episode Rigsby says to Cho "I'll find you a girl" and next thing you know that private detective is flirting with him and bugging his office. Season 1 episode 22 about 27 minutes in Rigsby seems to have 3 dots on his left shoulder. Is it a tattoo or just dirt? The person who strangled the private detective last episode had a long sleeve shirt on so she wasn't describing her killer but Red John.  Also, the actor playing Rigsby is leaving the show half way through the season. Also, in the pilot Partridge says the name Red John and runs into Rigsby at the same time. I'm sure Bruno knew who Red John was in the pilot so it has to be someone in the pilot. Also, if it's not one of the main characters we know and love...boring!

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Ok, this is the first time i ever put a theory in this website, i want to make it clear that i dont have a SINGLE suspect that i can say "Ok, im sure he is Red John", Heller is doing a great job and at this point we are all lost someway hahahahah.. So here i go.

Michael Kirkland: Bob Kirkland's twin has intriged me since his existence was mentioned, first thing that i noticed was Kirkland's voice, he has the same tone(?) of voice that RJ has (at least on the phone), could be that Michael's voice? Kirkland said that he and his brother were raised by a drunk father, and that Kirkland was the strongest, after he left, Michael stay with his father until he passed away, after that Michael met someone who help him (Kirkland assume that this man whas RJ), now i think.. Does anyone here ever played the game HEAVY RAIN? Two brothers, raised by a drunk father, one brother dies, the other becomes a serial killer, its a similar story, now IF, just IF, the man Michael met was actually Brett Stiles, who helped him after Michael joined Visualize, we all know that Stiles knows who is Red John, Michael could have become a serial killer after he murdered those two and the farm, and Stiles still is in touch with him, ALSO, AND VERY IMPORTANT, Rosalind Harker said that RJ smells like PINE, well... The house where Bob Kirkland was torturing people was registred at Michael's name, and its in the middle of a PINE FOREST! That caught my attention. So, could Michael be Red John? Yes, i guess.. Not shure, looking foward do know.

Raymond Haffner: Everthing is pointing him to be RJ, that makes me believe he is not, also, when everything pointed do Partridge, well, he died. Haffner match the fisical description, but, he does not have a personallity that i believe RJ would have (thats just my POV);

McAllister: Heller does said that since the first episode he already decided who was RJ, McAllister appeared on 1x02, he, someway, matches the fisical description, wear a wedding ring (we can see a ring on RJ's hand when he is holding a cup of tea), he is a great marksman, he has a great sense of smell, and is afraid of birds (or just dont like them), but as Patrick said something spooked RJ in the house at 6x01, pidgeons, maybe? 

Let me know what you think in the comments. Sorry if i type anything wrong, English is not my native language.

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The fate of Brett Partridge will make alot of people look stupid:

* If Brett Partridge is dead, all the current BP fans will be idiots (most probable)

* If Brett Partridge is alive, the writers are complete fools not letting the viewers have a chance solving who's RJ.

If we have to assume that every death in this series could be fake then ANYONE could be Red John and no logic would apply whatsoever. Jane would never allowed BP to fake his death, I'm sure he would check the corpse himself when he's on the scene, it's a friggin RJ suspect!!

People are too fixated with the list just because Heller said in some interview that "we can trust the list". That doesn't mean anything... we can trust that the list are fake?

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Iam pretty sure that brett has faked his death, i will tell you why!

first: to eliminate himself from the list and no one is gonna doubt.

second: wants to get jane busy to do what ever he wants and complete his plans.

third: he felt jane suspects him if you remember at E1 S6 .

I have been always thinking about partridge he looks psycho parching criminal to me another thing he enjoys explaining his crimes .

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(Scoop from TVLINE)
I was told to email here if I wanted scoop on The Mentalist, so here I am. –Olivia


Indeed, you are. “Armed” (heh) with the new tattoo clue, Jane
sets out this Sunday to round up all five remaining suspects, only to
find that one of them has gone missing. Long story short, the
aforementioned ink leads to a rather surprising reveal, and that shotgun
Jane is waving around in the promo does go off.

Do you know who made Van Pelt’s wedding dress on The Mentalist? It is very pretty. –Mitch

Vera Wang. And yes, it was.

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