Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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Hello, I found another theory, which I altered (again), to provide a description of episode 6. It is once again, a piece of fun. Feel free to criticise if you don’t understand it fully. Plot accuracy is not 100%, but I tried my best. Enjoy/hate. Your show, your opinion!
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Part 6: Fire and Brimstone



What actually happens in Patrick's house?




You must read this opening to understand the sequence of events that take place.
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1. We know Bertram knows Kirkland. Agent Kirkland asks "Can we trust her?" about Lisbon to Bertram.

(a) If its Michael, he's asking "Is she holding out on info about Lorelei Martins?"
(b) If its Robert, he's asking "Is she part of the corrupt group in law-enforcement?"

It is most probably Robert. Because Kirkland says "You'd know better, you've worked with her." And Bertram says "Can we trust anyone?"

2. We know Bertram calls himself seemingly "duplicitous" right in front of Patrick. That's not something a suspect/Redjohn should be saying.

3. We know Bertram wants to be there, when they catch Red John.

This all points to Bertram being the Snape of The Mentalist. He's a triple agent. He's actually a good guy.


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There is 1 gunshot fired, then a large period of time later: a Bomb Blast.

Ok, so you know:

-Bertram is a triple agent - a good guy! 
-Bertram knows Kirkland
-Bertram knows McAllister
-Bertram knows Smith

Proof they are all good cops on the inside of the Tiger Tiger:-

1. Bruno Heller says Red John has bad intentions for some of those on the list.


2. Kirkland is not a retard. When he meets Smith for coffee, he is missing one cup, as he has just met with Bertram again. He does not randomly choose a low-level agent to confide the Tiger Tiger message to. Kirkland is questioning of Lisbon, the most honest cop there is. He sneaks up on Smith unsuspectingly to check out if he’s a good undercover cop. Noone told Smith that Kirkland knows he's undercover. Kirkland found out via Bertram over coffee. Anyway, Smith helps Kirkland stage his death when they're both on the same page. They make a big show in front of the van driver. 

3. It is no co-incidence 3 suspects, meet the day after Partridge is "dead". Bertram is still keen for Patrick to tell them when he's close to catching Red John. They’re all actually good guys.
McAllister saves Patrick’s life. Patrick even asks “When you said you’re at my disposal, did you really mean it?” Patrick who keeps his cards closest to his chest, has a hunch they’re good.

4. Patrick reassures them he knows they're being watched. "I've always suspected this room was bugged... wired." 

5. Ok, when those 3 reveal their tattoos, they have this look on their face: First, it looks like Hate. But they're saying "You’re smart, you KNOW we're undercover- you better not shoot me!"

6. Patrick separates those 3 suspects. Then he shoots Ray Haffner. Ray Haffner is not Red John, but he is a murderer. He killed the copycats, Jared Renfrew and the prostitute, and he painted the smiley on Lisbon. Figures, why RJ’s MO seemingly changed during the series.  It is clear however, he did NOT kill Jane’s family.  Jane’s wife and daughter were slashed in real RJ style.
 

Optional Explanation of Haffner being a murderer.
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7. Here comes the explanation : Ray Haffner is the Halloween Masked Man. 

Quote Brett Partridge: “[Redjohn]’s been laying low for years, working through friends and proxies.”
 

-       When Halloween Masked Man saves PJ from the copycats, he shoots left-handed 
-       The way Ray Haffner walks, is the same as the Halloween masked man 
-       Halloween masked man paints Lisbon’s face taking care Brett Partridge uses the phone, while Haffner paints. 
-       Haffner is in Lisbon’s dream 
-       Halloween masked man pats Jane on the shoulder, the same way Haffner pats Cho after their talk
-       Ray Haffner looks like he was a football player, he won the “Heisman” trophy (Renfrew’s only clue) 
-       Surveillance expert- easily knows he was bugged + easily tracks down Jared Renfrew  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKZvmwU1ufg

Watch the video above. 

Haffner is moving like a robot. Because he’s actually waiting before Brett Partridge speaks, before he can carry out an action. He waits for the voice to act on 3 occasions: 

-       He walks to the copycats. Cue Pause for voice. Then slashy time. 
-       He walks to Patrick’s chair. Cue voice. Then lifts it up
-       He leans into Patrick’s face for like 3 seconds before spitting out the first word of the poem. 
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8. Brett Partridge is Red John. Red John bombs the suspect’s meeting later, according to Rigsby. Bruno Heller did say it wasn’t a good list to be on. McAllister/Stiles/Haffner’s bodies are unaccounted for.

9. Patrick Jane had plenty of time to question Bret Stiles. Patrick must know something! He is clearly uninjured from the bomb blast, judging from the promo.

-Patrick survives. 
-Haffner is dead already. 
-Bertram survives. -Smith survives.
-Red John’s bomb kills Sherriff McAllister. The pigeon is a personification of death.
-Bret Stiles was either saved by Brett Partridge during the bombing/ killed to stop him giving Patrick information.
 


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I think Tyger Tyger is totally unrelated to Red John, but they have been watching Jane because he was getting to close to them while searching for Red John.  I think Tyger Tyger is as clueless about Red John as anyone.  I'm really thinking closer to home, too-someone on Jane's team.

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Who is always around?
Who has inside knowledge?
Who likes women with red hair?
Who showed PJ what he lost when he married?
Who showed PJ what he has lost when he got a baby?
Who is acting a little dump that nobody get suspicious?
Who is leaving the show at midseason without any know reason?
Who would shock the audience the most if it turns out that he is red john?
The serious face of him in 6x07 promo was the last part of the puzzle for me. Never saw him so serious!

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Theory #9061 • By ThomasTM
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I don't know if this has been proposed, as this is my first time stumpling across this site, but I think that since the 2 latest episodes it has been much clearer who Red John is.
With the whole Tyger Tyger order was revealed I started to think that there is no Red John. Red John is clearly and alias for all of those involed in the order. Red John is the sum of the tyger tyger order. Hence the ability to move unseen, the common tyger tyger tattoo and the shared knowledge of anyone comming close to Red John. The next episode is called The Great Red Dragon. Looking up trivia for this episode is revealing and interest quote:

"And behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and
seven crowns upon his heads. And his tail drew the third part of the
stars of heaven, and did cast them to earth." - Rev. 12:3-4, (KJV)

Seven head, ten horns, and sevens crowns. If the title is an reference to this quote and to Red John, it is a hint there Red John is more than a single human being. He is the sum of the people hiding under his name. Depending on how big the Tyger Tyger order is, they may all be part of the Red John alias, or maybe it is the leaders of the order that is Red John.

Dunno, but this have been bugging my mind since the order was introduced.

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This is not theory, just a question.



Do you guys Remember in s06 ep 2 Gale, Smith and mcalister was having the meeting, now we know that all off them have the 3 dots, so my question is wtf is going on lol, is 1 of em red john or is all 3 off em working for red john or the tyger tyger shit?

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Hi folks
I couldn't watch the episode and probably won't for a long time so reading your comments is keeping me going. But I'm confused, people are saying Haffner got out alive, others are saying the three with the tattoos. It feels like from the synopsis for episode 8 that patrick deals with the three and then faces red john. I believe its either Bertram or haffner. I wish that the last three left were stiles and haffner andthe sheriff. I would really dispise reede. As red john it makes no sense. I don't think partridge is coming back sorry. Can you fill me in on who survived. How do we know those on the board are dead and not the remaining suspects

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 one thing we know for sure is the red john story line will be done concluded in episode 8 as its "red john" as episode 9 is called "My Blue Heaven" and 10 is "Green Thumb" and this is the first time bar the episode s406 (tho red john was supposed to of still been thought dead by everyone bar jane) that the title has not refrenced the color red or have a connection with something red i.e fire,cherry, rose, blood, crimson even pink

right back to the topic who i have wanted red john to be for a long time now is bret stiles (tho i dont think it is) as when jane and him first met they didn't get on but had a mutual respect for him, he is a very intelligent charecter and seems as now he would be smart enough to be red john, tho i went off him being red john when jane asked for the favour stiles had owed him and located lorali for him and  helped for escape for jane to talk with

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