Who is Red John?

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List of seven

Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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You guys need to chill
I feel sad for BH
Half the people are are cribbing about the list
And the other half are already slandering if anyone outside the list is RJ
Am sure whoever RJ is , It aint gonna satisfy everyone
But kudos to the cast and writers for keeping us engaged .
I feel even if we dont appreciate , we shouldn't be judging or criticizing them
Cheers

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First of all I would like to say that the rest of the theories were amazing and very convincing to read. Thanks for the deep insight on the plots.
I believe that the red john is either Patrick Jane himself, or a inside member of CBI that Jane has been working with all along. Just a quick tangent- do any of you know why the episodes after the red john episode aren't with a form of red in the title?the titles are either green or something else with different colors. I thought that was interesting.

The amount of episodes and seasons put into just one villain makes me feel like the creators had in mind that they wouldn't give us a direct list of the people to expect. Why would they make it easy for us to figure our red john? Jane could have an alter-ego self that knew everything about him and was the reason why he can't defeat this villain. Being the genius that he is, jane would make the perfect Red John. Red john needs to be someone that we never expect and thst knows Jane so well that he predicts what he will do at every moment.

My other theory is that it might be a partner of jane that he works close with such as Lisbon or Grisby. Lisbon knows Jane so well that Jane trusts her fully and would never doubt her. She is at all times is knowing what. Jane is doing and Jane looks at her as a partner to stop the villain. She would be a perfect villain working in the back scene without a suspicion by Jane that she is red john.

Ps, I found the reed smith translation of his name into the red or whatever very interesting considering the amour of symbolism used in the shoe such as Tiger, Tyger. The creators are smart.

PLEASE LEAVE FEEDBACK AND ANSER MY QUESTIONS, I AM DYING TO KNOW!!!!

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Bruno Heller pretty much says Brett Partridge is Red John. 

"After the first few episodes which are very much about the 7 suspects, it's all blue sky." - B. Heller

1st episode - Partridge's demise. It was MEANT to be obvious Partridge is Red John. Its not a cheesy trick, Red John HAD to kill Partridge. For everyone saying it's bad writing, you were the ones dumb enough to think it was intended to fool you. By that point, you were supposed to know Brett Partridge is Red John.

2nd episode- 3 guys meeting. Woman with pigeons sent by Partridge to scout and see if Jane knows his identity.

3rd episode- Sherriff McAllister saves Patrick. Patrick realises Gale and McAllister are good.

4th episode- Bob Kirkland ruled out. He's hunting RJ. Reede shoots Michael Kirkland so he's good. 

After all that it's just Red John playing into Patrick's hands. Patrick has outmaneuvred RJ, capitalising on his own bluff, using RJ's "pawns," who aren't really his pawns (3 in meeting), against him. 

"There are tricks but they're not there to fool the audience. There's no 11th hour twist" - B. Heller. Hence, we already know.

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Brett Partridge being Red John would be the most unoriginal *twist* the series has ever endured. It would make an otherwise well done show laughable. I enjoy every other suspect including Reede Smith over Partridge as Red John. Even the completely farfetched Kirkland twin theories are more entertaining. Just let it be any answer other than Partridge. What a waste of everyone's time if he's RJ.  I'm rooting for Bertram.

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I know a lot of people won't like this theory but even if Kirkland isn't red john I think he pretended to be in one episode when we seen the reflection on the computer for Dr. Joe n.h it is his face and you can tell by the way he blinks some people have a faster more distinctive blink and if you watch it then watch no. Kirkland scenes the face is the same and the blinking is the same so I'm not saying he is red john but maybe he was trying to help Patrick without exposing himself because he was getting all the info Patrick had so why not let him follow the leads and he would have access to the doj system.

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I'm sure I wasn't the only one who knew that Kira Tinsley (the private investigator) lied about who hired her, long before Jane did.

At first, I only thought that Cho made a major failure, asking a leading question like that.
But recently, I've been starting to wonder if it was intentional.

The dialog;
Cho: And who was your client? Was it Visualize?
Kira:   <long silence> Ye (looks like she's trying to convince herself)

I've always seen Cho as highly professional and short-spoken, but now he suddenly makes a rookie mistake and practically puts words (a lie) in the suspect's mouth (and then believes it with barely no further questioning).

I think he's involved somehow, most likely a member of the TT conspiracy.

If he isn't, it is a pretty big failure by the writers which "destroys" his character, depicting him as nothing more than a rookie cop interviewing his first suspect. And according to the TVGuide spoilers, he will start working for the FBI. Pretty funny with an FBI agent asking questions like that.
In my world they are better than that, but perhaps the writers aren't.


You can watch the scene here (start at 4:00.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjIBrVubSIw

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A few random observations.

Something bothers me about the scene in Jane's living room.  Haffner knew it was about RJ.  Yet, when PJ said so, he said he was leaving.  Why?  If it's him, perhaps the others don't know his identity, even though my bet is on McAllister.  Still, it doesn't make sense.

I do believe RJ is trying to kill off the other 6 on PJ's list.  For what purpose?

One thing that narrows it down for me is that the actor playing the Young Man bears a strong resemblance to Haffner and McAllister.

Another clue I believe we've been feed concerns coffee.  Smith likes his with cream and sugar and Haffner, black.  Anyone else know about the others and how this might tie in?  It was certainly done on purpose.  (I am hesitant to say this, but Carmen Lee can be an anagram for 'lean creme'  -- makes me either think coffee or uniform).

Does anyone else think that perhaps Roy Tagliaferro might be a disciple of RJ, as well as Jay Roth?  Or must they be RJ?

I previously mentioned the song MacArthur Park, Lisbon's 'happy memory'.  SPOILER: we know Jane kills PJ in a park.  We know the song is a metaphor about a relationship that is crumbling, that took a lot of time to build ("the cake out in the rain").  I think it alludes to the demise of RJ, because in the TV guide it is stated that RJ wants a relationship with Patrick.  Not all of the suspects do.

Well, those are my random thoughts. Hopefully, there will be answers soon!

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