Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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take a look guys at the last sneak peek.

http://www.spoilertv.com/2013/11/the-mentalist-episode-607-great-red_13.html

look at haffner, first hi was sitting on stiles right hand and then on stiles left hand next to the door,
i think he tried to escape after what lisbon told him; that PJ thinks he's is RJ.
so PJ fired the shot we heard, to make him sit down again.
we still have to know what happens few minutes later before lisbon arrives and everything explode.

i personaly think that the young actor nick nordella that we're going to see in E08 will play the roll of McAllister only because of the cleft chin (the dimple in the chin) they both have, and no other blue eyed suspect has it. and more, before the explosion McAllister kept his hat on the couch with his hand on it first, i doupt there was any explosive in it but it's just a remark, he could've kept it in his car at night.

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Take away all the bells, whistles, sub plots, red herrings,
mental tricks, false clues and irksome hints that have littered the storyline in
Season 6 thus far and what do you get?

Red John and Patrick Jane are entering the ‘end game’ phase
of a duel; a game; a challenge that started way back.

Both of these characters have been plotting, scheming,
outwitting, outlasting and outthinking each other in a back and forth manner for
years. 

Almost like a version of ‘Mental
Survivor’.


This should make it clear that Season 6 is nothing more than
a culmination of the mental game of dexterity between the 2 is coming to its
end.  With two such ‘brilliant’ minds in
play, I’m almost certain this ‘end game plotting and planning by BOTH’ started
the minute Patrick Jane refused ‘Red John’s’ friendship. Not suddenly in last
season’s finale.


They both have different desired outcomes of course to the ‘end
game’ – but to think that both of them have suddenly been spurred into action
to rush along these events, is not giving either ones intellect enough credit.


Red John leaving a clue about a tattoo to reveal his
identity? Honestly? – Not a chance, part of his long term planning nothing
more.


Patrick Jane believing the tattoo clue and running with it?
Honestly? – Not a chance, it’s Jane ‘returning serve’ to Red John.


This tennis game started in Season 5 (in earnest), which is
when I believe Patrick Jane identified Red John. He obviously had to knit a web
of intrigue and lies (lists and handshakes and utterly ridiculous assumptions)
in order to draw Red John out in a manner of HIS (Jane’s choosing).  I have always thought that he would get red
John to come to him, in the same way Red John came to him way back – through insulting
him, belittling him or making him seem inferior in the media. See next episode
when Jane (IMO) reveals the name Reed Smith as Red John, in order to piss red
John off seriously. Then Red John will come out to play.


Even though Red John has been meticulously planning and
plotting his own ‘end game’ – which was supposed to be the glorious death of
all with a bomb, and a clean getaway for him.

The need to show himself as the
TRUE Red John (to Patrick) will overcome all his ‘best laid plans’.


Why wouldn’t he just get the hell out of Dodge?
Because what
do we REALLY know about Red John? Not the useless bits of info others have
given (Rosalind etc) which could or could NOT be reliable – but the information
Red John HIMSELF has given us.


1.      
We know he hates to be belittled in the media,
and made to look like a regular fool. We also know he can’t ignore this – he is
driven to act by his very nature.

 2.      
We know he hates imitation and people who ‘pretend’
to be him – once more he is driven to act by his very nature.



3.      
We know he thinks he is smarter than Patrick. He
says as much in the Lorelei video. He calls Patrick ‘lucky’ and himself ‘clever’
for revealing the names. While we know he ‘likes’ Jane as an adversary (simply
because Jane is the 1st person he has ever met who provides a
challenge to him and who is of similar mental intelligence), BEATING Jane in
this game is still very important to him. But driving him here is not so much
the beating – it’s making sure Patrick KNOWS he has been beaten by a ‘superior
intelligence’.


 



So using that, one can almost SEE Patrick's plans, (that he
put into play the minute he knew who Red John was in Season 5) laid out in
front of us. The bomb might have thrown him off course, BUT it was a positive
sign that Red John has ‘bought into’ Patrick’s plan. He’s got him on a hook
now.

He has simply used what he DOES know as FACT about red John’s
psyche, to trap the man – and then deal with him – alone. 
Patrick will not ‘share’ Red John with
anyone.



“Red John is MINE”



Bob Kirkland will be back as I theorized yesterday. Patrick
will announce Reed Smith as Red John to the media, infuriating Red John. While
Red John ‘knows’ he should use this as an ‘out’ and run – his ego won’t allow
it. The desperation to show Patrick how ‘wrong he is’ brings him into the open.  RJ is going to be one pissed off puppy; but
he’s also going to want to brag a little in between as to how cleverly he
fooled ‘Patrick’.



Sadly for RJ – PJ is counting on this.


Killing a man already dead, burying the body and telling
no-one who the real Red John is = PRICELESS. (And RJ’s worst nightmare)


***long post again – sorry – but if these characters were
mine, this is what both of them would be doing, because it’s a true reflection
of their psyches and intellect and to be honest, both characters deserve a little
more credit than what is currently being given them – silly clues, tattoo reveals
etc. We need to stop thinking like TV viewers and keystone cops, and start
thinking like Jane and Red John - it has been a marathon, not a sprint**

 





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Hey All! 
This is not actually a theory but I will try to prove that the actual Red John has the 3 dots. That's why I'm gonna stick with my choice about Red John being McAlister (even thought I'm not sure about Patridge's death).
OK here is how i think things went. Red John bugged CBI offices a sloppy move that doesn't fit him at all and he did because he is freaked out. But, he didn't do it so he can hear what they say in CBI he doesn't need a bug for that because he has inside people, I think he did it so he can lead Patrick to Kira Tinsley. Red John didn't completely killed her and she let her see the 3 dots on the shoulder so she can tell to Jane while dies. Now he is one step ahead. He knows that Patrick will gather all 5 suspects to one place and make them reveal their shoulders and he can now plant the bomb to kill him (spoiler: we know from articles that Red John planted the bomb).

Patrick let their suspects know the location of the meeting just some hours before so Red John doesnt have a lot of time and he either knows the location because he is one of the remaining (McAlister)/// or Bertram informs him about it with his mysterious call and he is Partridge.
So Red John maybe not even be in the house or he knows how to survive the blast.

OK to sum up, Red John has gone desperate he could think about a better way to gather all suspects and patrick together but he makes a sloppy move to bug CBI so he can giveaway a clue to Patrick. But be aware that he doesn't give him a major clue that would really reveal him if his plan wasn't successful, he gives him a clue that gives away part of him because many people have the tattoo, that way he reduces the suspects but doesn't reveal himself.

PS1: Sorry for my bad English.

PS2: Check my video about Red John. (not sure if Partridge is dead :P)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohIxFnOnRCk&google_comment_id=z13sybuoil3mxjdzw04ch1ka1o3xj5sqkyc0k&google_view_type#gpluscomments

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Theory #11091 • By Sheldorian
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Just a thought.  In episode 2 when the three suspects are meeting in Bertram's office, Reede asks what mistake RJ made.  Jane then says the following:

"I would tell you but I always thought this room might be bugged... wired!"

3 episodes later, someone tries to bug Cho's desk. My theory is this: Jane hypnotized either RJ or one of his co-conspirators to have someone bug the CBI.  It would explain why someone would out of the blue hire a PI to do such a lame thing.  They didn't choose to make a mistake, they were hypnotically suggested to do so.

This is one aspect of the plot that I had major issues with this year!  If it wasn't Jane's doing, I hope there's a damn good explanation as to why RJ would hire a PI to bug the CBI.

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Do you know what's really unfortunate? Not to sound depressing, but isn't it a shame that the suspects we have are ALL portrayed by really great actors and (especially a few standouts being McAllister [Xander Berkeley], Haffner [Reed Diamond], Partridge [Jack Plotnick], and Kirkland [Michael Corrigan]) that in 2 weeks, he'll be gone? Lately this site has a lot of posts of certain actors and (ex. Xander in Nikita and Plotnick in Criminal Minds) how they would be amazing antagonists and thus amazing Red John's with their eerie, intimidating and spot-on portrayals of killers and anti-heroes. But, we never really got to see our Red John as Red John, and we won't after E08. Additionally, throughout the series, all of our potential RJ's have had little screen time, and we haven't seen him in his true character. So the reveal (hopefully) will give us only a few minutes of actual RJ time (unless there's lots of flashbacks) and then our actors won't be able to show off their RJ-ness (I really don't know how else to express this). 

I'm not trying to put a damper on the show AT ALL, because I know that we will move on to another story arc and I'm so thankful for the mystery and intrigue in this show thus far, but this is just off-putting to me. 

I mean, Red John has been a complete mystery for FIVE ENTIRE SEASONS. That's almost UNHEARD of for a TV show that has this big of a following; that the underlining plot is still just as entertaining and mysterious this entire time. I'm just amazed at this. Not going to lie, I am so attached to this show and it's going to be really depressing to know that our antagonist of 5 years will be gone just like that. 

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-  Why did Teresa Lisbon said on S 06 E 01 "Desert Rose"  :
"We could at least keep Bertram and the other seven suspects under   surveillance" ?
- Did Bruno Heller (who wrote the episode) and the whole "Mentalist" crew including actors screwed it all up in a collective amnesia attack ?
- Maybe Lisbon's subconscious was talking out loud ?
- Maybe Jane's subconscious was on the same level so he didn't need to correct her ... or his "mental palace" was really shutdown ?. Don't think so.
- I'd assume there's another suspect being hidden. A real twist & turn (as Ken Woodruff has just said on an interview : " ... just given the nature of our show and how we twist things around, and
Red John as a character, how sort of capable and deceitful he's been
able to be all these years. Don't forget, Jane's been in the place where
he's been 100 percent positive of Red John before and he was wrong. So I
wouldn't underestimate Red John ... )
- Then if there's a real hidden suspect, my choice has to be Walter Mashburn (cause the other seven are as Gary Clarke had said before "boring uninspiring farts")
- This would mean that both slept and had sex with monsters. Something
that will affect deeply whatever relation they have after Red John is
revealed (platonic love, 'siblings love' or simply love). So there's one reason there's a 2 years jump ( if its 2 years ... it's difficult to believe what the producers and writers are saying)





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hi guys!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_Vei8Vpi64

What do you think of this? Why'd Bruno Heller include this?

And also, I think the  cryptic clue in episode 1 of season 6 was the "666" on the wall. This number is the number of the beast, which is also a painting by William Blake.


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