Who is Red John?

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List of seven

Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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There are 7 suspects. Red John got the list because Lisbon is bugged during season 5, and he made the video right after Jane tells Lisbon the 7 names in the finale (6 names are said off-screen). Lorelei Martins is still alive so Red John can make the CD straight away when he hears. Patrick realises Lisbon is bugged very early on in season 6 and uses it against Red John. This is also why Red John doesn't kill Lisbon.

- Red John was in prison. He can't have a job in law enforcement unless he changed his name.
- Red John has a soft voice, is under 6 ft

Only 1 person fits these very specific criteria : Brett Partridge

- Red John was at West Huron when he was first bugged- he doesn't move all day.
- Red John kills Brett Partridge, his other alias
- Red John has pigeons in his home.
- Woman from Visualise has rings like Red John, wearing Partridge's watch, and feeding pigeons

That all points to the same guy: Brett Partridge

- Red John overhears Sophie Miller's notes, when Jane plays them to Lisbon
- Everyone in Tyger Tyger suddenly starts whistling, Haffner starts whistling and Stiles even whistles
- Who isn't in Tyger Tyger? Robert Kirkland. Does he whistle? No.
- Safe to assume Red John is the leader of Tyger Tyger and has a strong link to Visualise

That all points to: Brett Partridge

- Who looks nervous in Red John's Rules when he knows nothing of the list or Jane's exploits?
- Who hints that "Red John has been laying low for years" and thus implies he didn't kill Lorelei Martins?

This guy: Brett Partridge

- Who could you use as a Red John, that's going to result in the highest DVD sales?
- Whose scenes do you see little Easter Eggs, implying he's Red John?
- Who is Red John?

Brett Partridge
















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Hello, everyone!

Firstly, i'd like to say that i would be
disappointed if McAllister were RJ, because his charater changed a lot
since episode "Red hair and silver tape". I mean, i didn't even
recognized him this season, i thought that he was portraited by another
actor, not Xander Berkeley.

Ok, now, let's go to the main point:
se.05 ep. 22 - "Red John's Rules". When Lisbon is talking to Jane about
who was Aileen Turner/Leelee Barlow, Lisbon told Jane abou HER happy
memory, it was: Lisbon's mother feeding pigeons at the park,
related to the song "MacArthur Park" (a cake left out in the rain).
After that, in episode 06x02, "Red-winged black bird", there's that
scene with Lisbon and Jane at that park and a strange woman feeding pigeons.

So,
reading this song lyrics, it refers to a cake that take so long to bake
(it reminds me Sophie's head in the oven). But i can't find something
really interesting in this lyrics.
But (!!!!!!) the pigeons are
important references. Since Red John was in a house full of pigeons when
he "killed" Brett Partridge, how could RJ be Sheriff McAllister, if
he's afraid of birds?

Regards from Brasil!!!

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Red John is who he is you want to be...
Red John is the bad grades in our transcript...
Red John is anonymus..
Red John is in our hearts and minds...
Red John is one damn fella with whom we shall scare our kids when they refuse to sleep...
We will go to his grave and leave smiley carved apples on his gravestone...
We will remember him when we go outside late night...
We will hate Jane for killing him...
We will hate Bruno for not dragging RJ plot to another 6 seasons... and then another 6, and then another....
We will keep hating CBS for airing only 1 episode a week but not 35...

BUT MOST OF ALL:

We will miss the cute warm possibility of Red John being anyone on the show which is PRICELESS!!!

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Tiger tiger is a corrupt group that has been using red john as a scapegoat for their wrongdoings for years . They used partridge as there crime scene man to set the killings up to make it look like Rj. Rj killed him first! Rj is helping jane take down tiger tiger. Jans is playing by red johns rules !!!! This will then lead jane to rj. Lorelie may be alive . Van pelt and styles have a story to tell along with kristina frye . Minelli is the head of tiger tiger . Classic bad guy. The message board has finally cracked the code . Remember haffner on the phone saying "there ways to make women keep their mouths shut" . Tiger tiger is the opposite of cbi. Fearful symmetry. They do dirty jobs for people and coverup scandals . The bad guys.

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Hey I have a question not really a theory did anyone noticed that the cabin bob took Patrick too was covered up like it was hiding a giant red smiley face he said it was his brother's maybe that's why bob thought red john killed his brother there is a smiley face painted on the outside but I don't know any ideas.

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I have noticed that everyone is focusing on theories as to how RJ knew the list before Patrick, so I thought that I would give it a shot. There are some really great theories out there but most of them are very complicated so I thought I would try an easy route to the same destination. I just hope that I can explain it as easily as I came up with this theory. Okay, here it goes....

Six of the suspects have only one degree of seperation from RJ. In other words, all 6 are directly connected to RJ in some way. Let me explain. RJ was a member of Visualize and he knows that Patrick knew this so Stiles was an easy guess. Haffner was a long time member and both PJ and RJ knew that so he goes on the list. Members of Tiger are some way connected to RJ so RJ assumed Patrick pick the ones that he had worked with in the past which would add Smith and McAllister to the list along with Bertram but it's been no secret that Bertram has been a suspect for some time so of course he would be on the list. Bob Kirkland's connection to RJ was his brother and he has been on a psychopathic search for Rj for years, killing no telling how many along the way. RJ had to have known this too. Since we don't know Partridges connection to RJ I can't connect him to him, but I don't really need to since I believe he is RJ.

So what I'm basically saying is that Red John gave Patrick every person that he was directly connected to in some way and Patrick came up with the list the same way. I also think that Patrick began a long con to catch RJ back on Season 5's finale when he was burning stuff in a trash. In other words, he already knew who RJ was before the list ever came into play.

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