Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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Just to add one more important observation to my theory 11376

RJ's victims have mostly been women (when he started killing) - in other words, when he was younger. At this stage he was possibly still unable to control the urges guiding him (until he started channeling his 'tendencies' - possibly after spending time with Mr Stiles: into far greater things than simply killing - a criminal empire)

When women are victims of serials (his earlier victims) one usually pulls up a mommy issue. Kirkland has serious mommy issues.

Mother killed herself to escape a brutal marriage, leaving the twins behind to take all the cruelty and pain alone. In Bob's mind his mother abandoned them, leaving them to take a world of emotional and physical hurt from a sadistic father.

'I won't leave you'....said rather sarcastically as Lennon is dying.

Could this not be the ideal kick off for a young RJ? Those smiley faces have always come across as 'child like'. A crying child's face trying to cover the tears with a 'fake smile' - exactly how a young person would feel after a mom's suicide, 'perceived abandonment' to a life of pain with an almost satanic father.

So mom's suicide is Bob's emotional trigger. (How did she kill herself? Perhaps she slashed her wrists with a linoleum floor cutter - which would finally explain to me why RJ uses such a weapon.....it's a household item from a father's garage type of weapon IMHO)

RJ is born.
Finds his way to visualize
Starts killing women (and others), and signing his scenes with the 'child's crying/smiling face'.
Brett Stiles sees huge potential - but needs Bob to channel that sociopathic potential in a way that is bigger, better. Eventually TT is born.

Maybe?

Anyway, Kirkland is also the only suspect who has given us the 'mommy suicide' story - what a trigger for the dawn of RJ.



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Okay... so I have to say this, because I keep reading people referring to the pigeon thing as possibly being a reference to Brett Partridge, and it's driving me a little nuts.  Folks, a pigeon and a partridge are not the same... not even remotely.  They don't look alike, they don't sound alike.  They are barely related.  Pigeons are of the order Columbiformes, while Partridges are of the order Galliformes.  The only point at which the two birds relate is at the class level Aves... i.e. birds.  A chicken or turkey is much more closely related to a partridge than a pigeon is.

That being said... I guess I could cut someone some slack if they were referring to the Partridge Pigeon... but I think I might be giving someone credit where it isn't due. ;) 

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6x08 - Red John

Red John = Hello Patrick

I can't wait

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Theory #11423 • By RedThoughts
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Proof that partridge isn't dead??????   Zombie partridge confirmed?!   Highlight and open this link in a new tab..

https://lh5.ggpht.com/6Vb265ulAXJXEvFNypQ6au9YTqaHccd9r0SxX3rq8YN5RO3d3zYdYHM_awE5Cl_t3uuYaQ=s85
























TROLOLOL

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Well I know of two TRUSTWORTHY sources that have watched the episode already and spoiled a little.

SPOILER ALERT

1. Someone from the past "long gone" comes back.

2. There are MULTIPLE CASUALTIES from the bomb. Goodbye Stiles and Haffner. We know Smith and Bertrum live so I assume it's the visualize duo since they're together when the bomb goes off.

3. Something in the last minute CHANGES THINGS FOR THE CBI moving forward.

4. Something from season 2 is explained.

Obviously I have believed that BP is red john from the beginning, and this is a spoiler.

Patrick strangles RJ in a park and watches him die. TV guide has already reported that. Now I ask. Do you think he could strangle Bertrum or Smith? F no. Now a skinny guy like BP?!?!?!?!?!

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Theory #11420 • By AKG
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BRETT PARTRIDGE WAS RED JOHN. NOW HE IS DEAD...KILLED BY THE TYGER TYGER GROUP. 

BP WAS A MEMBER OF VISUALIZE, BRET STILES WAS HIS MENTOR & CONFIDANT.

CHECK THE LINK BELOW...TO HEAR THE TWO VOICES.. ONE OF BP AND THE OTHER OF RJ...THEY NEARLY MATCH EACH OTHER.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRR3PT-uk4w

PLEASE CLICK GREEN IF YOU THINK I AM RIGHT OR COULD BE RIGHT.

PLEASE DONT BOTHER WITH THE RED ;)

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