Who is Red John?

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List of seven

Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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Probably already seen but still. I was going to rule some of them out.








The "three dots" tattoo appears to be the mark of Tyger, Tyger members. FBI Agent Reede Smith (Drew Powell) has already revealed his Tyger association to viewers when he killed Bob Kirkland - who was also a Red John suspect. Connect that to the trio's meeting in The Mentalist Season 6, Episode 2, "The Black-winged Redbird." Smith definitely has ties with CBI Director Gale Bertram (Michael Gaston) and Napa County Sheriff Thomas McAllister (Xander Berkeley). That established, is Bret Stiles (Malcolm McDowell) in the clear?
By extension, is Ray Haffner (Reed Diamond), who attends the Visualize cult that Stiles leads, also in the clear? These questions are being asked because the sneak preview for The Mentalist Season 6, Episode 7 says, "It's down to the final three suspects." (Scroll down to watch the sneak preview video.)"I wouldn't throw it out," The Mentalist writer told TV Guide about the idea that Visualize men Bret Stiles and Ray Haffner are no longer under suspicion. He hints that viewers should go easy on ruling out anyone before Episode 7 airs "given the nature of our show and how we twist things around, and Red John as a character, how sort of capable and deceitful he's been able to be all these years.

http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/521344/20131112/mentalist-season-6-spoilers-red-john-visualize.htm#.U...

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I've been visiting this site since almost the beginning, and must say I've enjoyed everyone's theories, but the time has almost come I'm nervous for the next 2 Sundays! Excited but nervous!!! Who else feels like this?

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Re-watched Patrick on the talk show where he first describes RJ (previous to his family's murders). He describes him as:

Sadistic, demonic, evil, a  cold dark flame, an ugly tormented loner. Sad,
very sad. An ordinary looking man in his mid-thirties with
thinning brown hair medium height. A showman artist with strong sense of
theatre. But methodical, tidy. He keeps himself very clean. He has a small
speech impediment that he’s ashamed, works in a clerical job,  and lives w/ mother sister single story blue
house w/citrus tree in the front, a lemon tree.

I think it will be interesting to see how much of his original, albeit falsely psychic, description holds up.

My first choice for was Minnelli and I do think he will show up tomorrow night as the person from season two in whom Lisbon misplaces her trust. I also think the newlyweds (at least one) will die in episode seven.

Assuming the list is true, I hope for McCallister. Did anyone notice when PJ called to enlist his 'help', he sighed, almost rolled his eyes. Maybe it was simply because he was interrupted while hunting, but maybe it was b/c he's growing weary of the game with Patrick and frustrated that he's not figuring it out. To me, it seems like he has more of a relationship with PJ than the others. Excepting Stiles. If it is Partridge, I'd be okay with it.

Here's to tomorrow night! Have fun, everyone. Enjoy!









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Just wanted to let yas know that a YouTube channel called happycool has posted an advance review of the great red dragon - enjoy :)

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The last couple of episodes have given a lot of clues and I think it’s really obvious who RJ is now.

If RJ was the one to kill the private detective, then RJ has to be either Smith, Bertram or McAllister. Another member of Tyger Tyger could have done it, but RJ has been confirmed by Bruno Heller that it is someone on the list so if RJ was the one to kill Kira, then he has to be either one of those three.



It's not Smith for obvious build issues. It's been made very clear throughout the entire series that RJ is not overweight.
It could be Bertram, but how could it be? It's more likely that he's just a member of Tyger Tyger and leaks information to RJ. As Smith said when Jane walks in on their little meeting, it's his job to know what's going on. Yes as some people have said, Bertram could be mole within Tyger Tyger, and reports to some high up power about the going-ons between RJ and PJ, but it seems really unlikely. Either way he cannot be RJ. He's either a Tyger Tyger mole or more likely, just a Tyger Tyger member and an informant to RJ.

That leaves McAllister. He has a fear of heights and he fits the basic description of RJ given over the series. If RJ indeed has the tattoo, it's McAllister, it has to be. Unless Bertram is making phone calls to himself and Smith is constantly wearing a fat suit, it logically cannot be them. 


But the question really is, would RJ have a Tyger Tyger tattoo? Would it be a risk or would having it allow anonymity amongst the organisation which follows him? If RJ does not have the tattoo, it leaves Haffner, Kirkland, Stiles and Partridge.


Firstly, it cannot be Kirkland. Nor his twin brother. I have seen a lot of theories relating to Michael being RJ and some elaborate switch over, but it seems a little too elaborate but to me it seems really obvious it’s not. The reason why Bob was asking if the RJ associate last season had seen his face was not because he is RJ and wanted to remain anonymous (RJ wouldn’t be that sloppy) but to see if he knew his twin brother and anything about him. And then killed him because he didn’t. Then he went on a murderous rampage and killed the fake list of seven, to kill the man who ruined his brother. Then he dies at the hands of Smith, a member of Tyger Tyger and that’s the end of that, end of storyline.



So that leaves Haffner, Stiles and Partridge. 


Regarding Partridge, the actor and producers have confirmed he’s really dead. They could be lying as saying “no, he’s alive!” is a major spoiler and would ruin the fun, but if he is still alive, don’t you think it would ring massive alarm bells if his body disappeared? It can’t be him. 



It could be Stiles. Even though he is supposedly on his deathbed, there is no reason why it couldn't be him. As with Haffner, there is a lot of evidence it is him, he fits Rosalind's description, the whistling, the fear of spiders, and Ray Haffner disappearing at the same time as she was killed and coming in moments after the nurse stakes out the room Teresa is in? It's like they want us to think it's him, but it still could be.

It's either Stiles, Haffner or McAllister.

But it's the massive clue at the end of the first episode which solves it. 
Partridge saying Tyger Tyger.
The person who killed him has the tattoo, that’s why he said it, to try and identify him. It’s just that neither Teresa or PJ understood what he was implying. 



Red John is Thomas McAllister.

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Theory #11525 • By Todd
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If Bertram is Red John then how come he allowed his inside man(O'Laughlin) to get killed?  When PJ realized it wasn't Bertram in the mall Bertram could have told O'Laughlin that PJ figured out it was him.  Presumably Bertram would want the inside man killed so that he wont speak just like he did with all the other inside ppl. Bertram couldn't have thought that they would have killed him.  Wouldn't he have warned him to get out of there and then maybe kill him himself?

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ok so if there is two dead and three left then the three on the board are probably the ones that are left? Does that make sense. That rules out my choice Bertram. Why are the three on the board. Anyway its going to get interesting when we find out whose dead. People's choices are going to change very quickly. I wouldn't have much of a clue if my choices are wiped out. AS it is these are my choices.....

Bertram
Haffner
Sheriff

Bertram is super creepy. Why did he whistle after talking to Jane and Lisbon? It's a weird time to whistle before a phone call.

Haffner...really doesn't seem like Red John at all not in the slightest which is why he might turn out to be him AND the fact that he is close to Stiles and stiles is very much associated in some way with RJ. His past mentor I am guessing and that is why he adopted his style from visualize. I actually would really like Red John to be Haffner. I would be thrilled. But it's based on very shallow reasons.

Sheriff- hmmmm not sure I would believe this. he is not really a powerful figure. He doesn't look like he has any influence over anyone or could have influence. The first time we seen him he was scary but not a stalker kinda way not like Red John not charismatic or influential enough to be RJ.



Just to mention some things about the others...

Reede after watching the last episode I think that he could pull it off but I still wouldn't want him to be Red John. I would be disappointed. But he was cocky in Jane's house and remember Red John would not want to kill Jane so the whole gun thing could have been put on.

Stiles- if he was younger then I would believe it was him but it's not. Someone who was close to him and adopted his stile. His ego and personality are very much like Red John. I'm guessing that note was from Red John so it's not him.

Partridge- not sure what people are seeing here. His Entrance was great really brilliant. The imaginary and ambiance with him around was great but he is not Red John. He doesn't have any of the characteristics. He was weak and I didn't see him wanting to be friends with Jane, jane insulted him yes but I didn't see him looking up to Jane, more like he was looking up to RJ and his serial killings, anyway it's not him. I'm pretty sure on that. There are clues and it's possible but there are clues to all suspects to be honest that are much stronger.

Kirkland twin: ya the twin thing was really odd? I felt it in the show a few times but maybe its a really elaborate red herring. There are loads of them. I don't think any twin is coming out of the woodwork . It's a cop out.. The whole tie thing might be a mistake. I have seen a few mistakes on the show for example...the red snapper episode where cho is trying to remove the air vent he gets the screwdriver from that man and gives it back...the next scene you see the screw driver back his hand again. Maybe the tie is deliberate to throw us off maybe its not I don't know I haven't looked at the scene again.

Marshburn: heavens no. RJ is on the list.
Ellis Mars: What on earth was that episode about. Hideous and not Red John. Maybe planted byRed John to bring notice to TT but awful choice.




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