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Bob Kirkland

Bob Kirkland
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Reede Smith is no longer a RJ suspect, he
surrendered to CBI and told Patrick he wasn’t RJ. That was obviously the truth.
The last suspect is Gale Bertram, but I think we all know he’s not RJ. Read
some theories below if you want to know why.



So, we are facing a big problem : Smith and
Bertram are the only remaining suspects, all the others are supposed to be
dead. But none of them two is RJ. Therefore, RJ (if he is on the list) is one of
the dead suspects. Something is clever about these five suspects, and I think
it has been done on purpose : we can’t be 100% sure they’re dead!





- Brett Partridge was many's favorite and I think that's why he
was eliminated first. However, even though we've seen his dead body (or else
Cho is really stupid), we are not 100% sure about him being dead. But let's
assume he is.



- Bob
Kirkland was the second suspect eliminated from the list because it was too
obvious he could be RJ. His voice matched, his look fitted Rosalynd
description, and there was that spooky thing about him that made him a perfect
candidate for RJ. He was killed for that one reason, just like Partridge
was. They were the most suitable suspects, that’s why they were crossed out of the
list pretty hastily. However again, Heller made sure to leave a disturbing
element : Kirkland has got a twin brother, which leads to a lot of questions.  
So, Kirkland isn’t Red John? We can’t be sure,
we still can assume he is not dead.




-  As for Haffner, Bret Stiles and Sherif
McAllister, they supposedly died in the explosion and we found DNA evidence for
the three of them. One thing is sure : at least one of them did die in the
blast. We saw a man’s foot but we don’t know whose it is. Is it Haffner’s?
Stiles’? McAllister’s?


It can’t be McAllister’s :
we can see him in the promo for next week’s episode so he must have escaped and
spread his DNA somehow. But is he RJ? (I hope not :( ).



My opinion about Bret Stiles
and Haffner is that they both were killed by the blast and their bodies were
torn to pieces. But we are still not 100% they died, they also could have spread
their DNA and gotten away.


The only thing that we are
sure about is that one of them three is dead alright (unless he cut off his
foot and left it there^^).

 




So you see? Partridge is
certainly dead but we are not sure about it (well yes we are, actually I am but
we still can believe he’s not), Bertram and Smith aren’t RJ, Stiles, Haffner
and McAllister may still be alive, and Kirkland’s death is not sure either.

By the way, I hope it’s
Kirkland, I love him! Oh by the way, I miss LaRoche, he was my favourite character
before Kirkland showed up :/ 


Only a week to go through till RJ is finally revealed!!

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"The game is over and I won"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQVYz7_8qeE
Listen to this line a couple of times @ 0:12.
Now listen to Kirklands voice here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcARXVv3WfQ
And here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pd12BGBWd00
And here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3MRlGFmPjw

PS: I do not think that Red John is in Blakes Association, why ? Because Lorelei Martins would definitely have the Tattoo on her shoulder, and she didn't. We were told that RJ doesn't like couple of people on the list, that's because he is Kirkland and Kirkland is trying to get rid of Blakes Assoc. , he knew the heads of BA will be sitting on the couch in PJ's house, he couldn't have guessed that Jane will take them to the wall, he didn't want to kill PJ, he knew he wasn't going to sit beside them for obvious reasons. 

What do you think ?

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I think I have it. Red John is MICHAEL Kirkland. Here's the thing. The person we've been lead to believe is Robert Kirkland is actually Michael Kirkland.

We know when Michael was "Killed," he was shot by a known Tyger Tyger Head Guy, Reede Smith. The 
chain of Custody was him and the driver, another TT member. 

We know from "Bob" Kirkland told Jane that his brother got involved with Red John and he presumed killed him. That is why Kirkland supposedly got involved in the hunt for RJ.

Instead, RJ has been keeping his innocent brother in captivity all these years. Using BK's credentials and avenging his murder as motive he passed every background check, where MK certainly could not.

Also, why was TT so intent on killing Reede Smith? Because he's the only person on Earth that knows "Bob" is really Michael and switched the bodies to the freshly shot real Bob Kirkland, who would then be positively identified and buried with the CORRECT name on the grave.

When Kirkland was set to torture Jane, Jane knew he was Red John. But also he knew that if he accused him or let on that he knew, RJ would kill him on the spot. He has to convince Kirkland that he had been eliminated as a suspect in his mind. He also figured out that it was actually Michael because it was MICHAEL'S Property.

Why was RJ killing fake RJs? RJ gave him the List of 7. He's obviously trying to force Jane and the CBI to eliminate suspects until they are down to his chosen Patsy, Bertram. Jane and RJ know that accusing the head of the CBI will cause the Feds to rain hell on the CBI. That's why Jane goes with the plan and makes the big, public announcement.

How was it that Bertram was the only one to escape the blast unscathed? Because he knew it was coming. RJ set it up. When Jane took out the shotgun, he was doing what RJ wanted him to do, kill the last remaining RJ suspects like Kirkland was supposedly doing. So after Jane shoots Smith with a flesh wound, RJ or Bertram detonates the bomb, making sure all the other suspects are dead, except accidentally he loses Smith. He nearly kills Jane, which would put the CBI on a wild goose chase forever, attacking itself.

RJ has been trying to turn Jane into a Serial Killer. That is why he is tempting Jane to kill all the suspects, except the one he cannot kill, his Boss. RJ then makes Jane look like the primary suspect. Tyger Tyger clears Bertram and Jane goes to the Nut Ward and Red John retires.

That's why Jane has to walk away.

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Actually, MICHAEL Kirkland.  He's the thing.  The person we've been lead to believe is Robert Kirkland is actually Michael Kirkland.









We know when Michael was "Killed," he was shot by a known Tyger Tyger Head Guy, Reede Smith.  The chain of Custody was him and the driver, another TT member.


We know from "Bob" Kirkland told Jane that his brother got involved with Red John and he presumed killed him.  That is why Kirkland supposedly got involve in the hunt for RJ.


Instead, RJ has been keeping his innocent brother in captivity all these years.  Using BK's credentials and avenging his murder as motive he packed every background check, where MK certainly could not.



Also, why was TT so intent on killing Reede Smith?  Because he's the only person on Earth that knows "Bob" is really Michael and switched the bodies to the freshly shot real Bob Kirkland, who would then be positively identified and buried with the CORRECT name on the grave.

When Kirkland was set to torture Jane, Jane knew he was Red John.  But also he knew that if he accused him or let on that he knew, RJ would kill him on the spot.  He has to convince Kirkland that he had been eliminated as a suspect in his mind.  He also figured out that it was actually Michael because it was Michael's Property.

Why was RJ killing fake RJs?    RJ gave him the List of 7.  He's obviously trying to force Jane and the CBI to eliminate suspects until they are down to his chosen Patsy, Bertram.  Jane and RJ know that accusing the head of the CBI will cause the Feds to rain hell on the CBI.  That's why Jane goes with the plan and makes the big, public announcement.

How was it that Bertram was the only one to escape the blast unscathed?  Because he knew it was coming.  RJ set it up.  When Jane took out the shotgun, he was doing what RJ wanted him to do, kill the last remaining RJ suspects like Kirkland was supposedly doing.  So after Jane shoots Smith with a flesh wound, RJ or Bertram detonates the bomb, making sure all the other suspects are dead, except he loses Smith.  He nearly kills Jane, which would put the CBI on a wild goose chase forever, attacking itself.

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Oh come on, there are still people who think Partridge isn't dead? We fucking saw the body, isn't it enough? Let's face it, Sheriff McAllister is RJ. And don't get me wrong, I am just as disappointed as you guys must be. 


Right, this is next week's episode promo.

http://www.spoilertv.com/2013/11/the-mentalist-episode-608-red-john_18.html?m=1

"The game's over and I won" Whose voice does it sound like? I think this is Kirkland4S (whichever). But is he RJ? Lots of questions over here. I think he's not, Sheriff is. 


So, are you guys ready to be disappointed? I am, but I still have a tiny hope McAllister isn't RJ, my favorite character remains Bob Kirkland :/

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I still don't understand why Kirkland killed the red john member in the hospital.

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The promo for ep 8 sounds like Kirkland, he matches the physical description by rosalind, under 6 ft, straight hair not muscular or thin

Red John tried to play Jane the whole time, I believe that Lisbon is bugged and Jane realised, possibly it's her badge or maybe he got mash burn to find out by sleeping with her. Anyway this is the chain of events that I believe.

Red John told loralei to tell Jane they had shaken hands "by accident". Jane called his bluff but told Lisbon he believed it was true as she was bugged, so red John would believe that Patrick believed it if you follow me.

Once Kirkland had shaken hands with Jane, red john knew that in some way Jane would contact loralei and in some way she would fake anger and blurt out what rj wanted her to say.

But here is the thing, I don't believe rj is bob Kirkland I believe it's Michael. Michael, if he is red John would have the knowledge to know where is brother is going and know that Jane would meet his brother and shake hands with him, what a perfect chance to play the greatest game on Jane.

Then Michael went to loralei in jail, told her to tell jane about the handshake. Jane calls the bluff, but does exactly what red John hopes he will do and tells Lisbon he has remembered every single name of people he has shaken hands with,, red John hears the names through lisbons bug and low and behold bob Kirkland is there, rj thinks his plan has worked.

So before he kills loralei he makes the tape of her saying the suspects, what he doesn't know is that Jane has picked 6 others that he has deducted are close to rj or Jane is already aware of tiger tiger and knows he must dismantle it to really rid the world of rj. Rj in order to fool Jane sent a tiger tiger member' obviously wearing a bloody tank top! Lol. to kill the PI but not fully, so she will tell Jane he has three dots and Jane will start a wild goose chase of the remaining list members with tatoos. But instead, now Jane knows how to bring down rjs whole network, they can all be identified, Jane has won because rj has now lost his power and will reveal himself to kill Jane

Something I missed, he has his brother killed but before, when he is torturing Jane and says he has a twin that's when I think Jane connects the dots as to who it is. Frame thy perfect symetry I think Is red John starting of his game with Jane, the symmetry of twins. But anyway he kills Kirkland in order to make his reveal all the more awesome when he try's to kill Jane.

So now the FBI are in, rjs network is being dismantled, Jane says to Lisbon he hasn't given up but there's nothing more he can do at the end of ep 7, rj hears this and that his is cue, he has won because Jane can't do anything more. Jane however knew that rj would now reveal himself so goes somewhere quiet where he can be approached (the church). Enter Michael Kirkland. Yes I know he wasn't on the list but really he was because if Jane shook hands with his brother or maybe it was Michael and deducted that by Michael or his brothers location that he could have committed the rj murders Jane may have been mistaken but it would be the same face he was after and that's really what he was going on.

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