Did you think of this?

Guys I just posted that it is Bob and not Michael who is Red John

Here is an interesting insight that Khalid left in the comments. He says

"you remember when Kirkland kidnap Patrick Jane to ask him about the list in season 6 ep.4 .. Kirkland said: "I am willing to kill 7 people to get the job done" ... how did he know that Patrick real list has 7 number of suspects !!!!! ..... Kirkland stole the fake list which has many suspects ... more than 7 ...... how did he know ?????????????? it is strange right ???"

One more thing is why did he Kill Lenon? I mean when Lenon knew connections to RJ? Just because he wanted to avenge his brother? Common...He would have kidnapped Lenon and tortured him because Lenon knew connections to Red John.

It can't be Michael as I have explained http://www.whoisredjohn.com/See-a-theory-Red-John/9984 

Also the only people I can imagine pulling off Red John voice are Partridge and Bob Kirkland. I can't imagine Haffner, Bertram, Stiles, Smith or McAllister with that voice. It would be funny them doing it, and if it is funny sounding it would get away from the seriousness of Red John and how he uses this voice for his Red John image that he takes very seriously

I also love the theories here, because I'm sure even Heller wouldn't have thought of such connections.

I think it is Bob Kirkland, what do you think? Please let me know 

Warning!! Spoiler!! Canadians were able to see the last episode 6: Fire and Brimstone, please do not read if you don't want spoilers!!

Three Questions after episode 6 I think are vital to the story:

1. What is Tyger Tyger interests in RJ? Obviously Bertram has been keen to be around when RJ is found, and now that its clear he is not RJ, why do they care?

2. Why show the ritual with Stiles the way they did 2 episodes before the RJ reveal? It was so over the top and hammed up that it seems the creators wanted you to make the connection with RJ, so why?

3. Why fake the deaths of all of the suspects and Jane at the end?



First off, I don't think its anyone left on the list, including Stiles. As mentioned above Stiles's scene with the ritual is too over the top, and clearly meant to remind you of when RJ put blood on Lisbon's face. Also, if you noticed Stiles was one of the ones who cautioned Jane not to shoot McCallister without first noticing that more than one suspect had the tattoo, and it doesn't make sense for RJ to care about Jane's well being in that way. Red John is obsessed with Jane yes, but wants to see him go darker, and become a monster, and that has been a constant throughout the show. Jane killing someone he has falsely believed was RJ, seems like exactly the thing RJ would smile about, not attempt to prevent.

I don't think it's Haffner either. He is too open about his hatred, and with his anger. His reaction to being asked to show up was too normal: offense, anger, curiosity, and then eventually realizing it would be of benefit to him to be there. I do however think its a bit odd that he isn't surprised to see Stiles? After all Visualize thinks he is elevating to another existence, aka running away to South America, so why does Haffner show no surprise at his attendance?

The Sheriff, and Reed don't jive as RJ either, neither seems to pay enough attention to Jane, or even rise to his baits for me to believe they would care like RJ does. Bertram did have a very long moment where he gave Jane a weird look when it came out that he had the tattoo as well, but these Tyger Tyger guys are working together, IF RJ is in fact one person, I just don't believe he is team player. 


That leaves Partridge, Kirkland, or unknown.

Partridge - If it's him he faked his own death, but why? The only thing that makes sense at this point is that Tyger Tyger was after him too. RJ knows he needs to get out of dodge, so he fakes his own death and takes on the RJ persona full-time. I am thinking his connection to visual will obviously be that Stiles is his father, or his mentor. I am leaning towards son though, it explains the cover-ups, and the resources RJ has tapped into in the past.


Kirkland - The more I think about it the more I think its him, well sorta. The facts that the guys who play Bob Kirkland and Stiles are both more recognizable actors in terms of careers than the rest, and Bob Kirkland was off his nut so it runs in the family. I think the only way this make sense, it's not Bob Kirkland that is RJ but his twin brother Michael . His twin brother wasn't talking about RJ promising change, Michael was actually taken in by Brett Stiles, and was at the visualize farm, and Michael himself became RJ. I think Michael has posed as Bob before, and that's how he met Patrick. I think Michael also killed that witness at the hospital, and has been able to play off being Bob to sometimes access NSA resources. I also think Michael's got something on visualize, and Stiles feels compelled to keep his secret quiet, but not sure why yet. I am also not sure how Tyger Tyger fits into this theory, other than its info we haven't gotten yet. But for some reason I think there is more to the twin Kirkland brothers than meets the eye.


Unknown - I am still thinking it could be an unknown. I know everybody thinks Heller has been honest, but I really don't. I don't fault him, I know fans like to think their passion is what fuels shows, but its actually money that decides what shows get on air. Promoting this, and getting people to tune in will be the factor in if Heller gets another gig. So to be fair, he should be less concerned with keeping us fans happy, and more concerned with getting us to watch. Ratings are his priority, so I think it could all still go pear shaped by the time of the RJ reveal. 


Let me know what you think!!??

Hey, 

I'm now more certain than ever that it's Kirkland whether it be Michael or Bob. Who knows whether it was Bob or Michael who was killing the fake suspects, but I think it was Bob who was killing the fake suspects.

Their be no reason for Michael if he's Red John to kill them and torture them if he already knew he was Red John.

Let's narrow down the clues to what we know about Red John:

1. Just under 6 feet tall
2. Not muscular but not soft
3. Short straight hair
4. Rough strong hands and smelt of pine, nails and dirt. With a soft spoken voice

Kirkland practically ticks all of these, plus if Michael owned the shed with garden tools etc which it clearly had, this would be the smell.

Right Lorelei goes on to say this:

"God! You're just like him. Relentless manipulation, I'm surprised you two didn't become lifelong friends the moment you shook hands." 

Rebecca also says:

"You're just like him you know, how you read people and see straight through people, spooky!"

Kirkland as shown some skill for this. Just before he kills Lennon he asks him if he remembers anything, then when he mentions Lorelei Kirkland says this:

"Good, your mind is clear, now I have a really important question for you Jason. Have you seen me before? Do you recognize me?"

Lennon answers no. Which Kirkland seems somewhat relieved about, before he kills him. I reckon he killed him, not because he wanted Red John for himself, but because the man who killed Lennon was Michael/Red John and didn't want Jane to get him to remember. So he's capable of killing.

Also, when talking to Lisbon, he says his family travelled a lot first for his Dad's then for his Mums. So he could have worked on the carnival and that's where Red John and Jane met and therefore shook hands.

Then we know according to Sophie Miller Jay Roth had a phobia of some sort, whatever this may be Kirkland has never shown any phobia yet. Not to say that he doesn't have one. She said he was middle aged Bob and Michael are both 44 years of age. She said he had no family, yet he could just not want to acknowledge his brother.

He's an excellent whistler, neither Kirkland have shown this, but who's to say he isn't. We know "Bob" is dead.

Other clues:
1. Beard, no beard in some episodes.
2. Beard on his suspect photograph, but using Bob's name.
3. He watched his own mother kill herself with a razor blade, is this why Red John kills his women victims in the way that he does?
4. Met a savior a man that could help him, Stiles? How Red John become Red John and a member of Visualise?
5. What immortal hand or eye could frame thy fearful symmetry. How more symmetrical can you get then twins?
6. Addresses Jane has Patrick just like Red John, the same with Lisbon.

I personally think Kevin Corrigan is perfect for the role of Red John, he fits him like a glove. His murderous eyes, his expression, his personality. Bruno Heller if you haven't thought of all this, then you're not the genius I thought you were! I think it's amazing!                          

            

It's not Micheal Kirkland guys....It's Bob!

Here's why

Heller as a personality going by his interviews wants to be the brilliant one here, for that he needs to deceive us and not let us say...Hey we saw that coming or Hey! that was impossible man!

If he brings back Partridge from the dead, fans will say it was trying too hard for a twist and most would have guessed.
If it is one of the remaining 5 it is too obvious.
What is a way of having a brilliant twist without doing any spooky or impossible stuff?

Get the twin angle in. Make us believe that it is Micheal Kirkland who is or involved with Red John, kill bob so all fingers will point at Micheal.

Now if Micheal was the one that was killed by Reede Smith and Bob is still alive, then it would not be spooky like coming back from the dead, because the twin angle is logical and we would still be thinking about Micheal so it would not be obvious.

Bob Kirkland meets all descriptions, all teases from the show producers apart from one, that is when they said 'Red John was there from the beginning' which is a very loose ended statement.

Might be wrong but finally thought of something so sharing. What do you think? 

Love your theories!

Great theories I must say, I think Bruno Heller might get a lot of script ideas from here.

I think it's Bob Kirkland and not Micheal Kirkland.

From the News article they released we know that it is one of the suspects. Partridge as the producers confirmed he is dead. Now Heller in an interview mocked lost saying it had lose ends, he would not lie about partridge when he makes bold statements like that, which will show him in bad light.

We know Heller will pull a quick one on us. To do that he needs a double twist.
He led us to believe that Bob was a good guy and Micheal to have gone wrong.
Then He killed Bob Kirkland.

I however think that Bob Kirkland is Red John, who sent Micheal to die as bait thus leading us to believe that Micheal might be the baddie, Red John.

Also if you notice when Reede Smith takes Bob/Micheal into the woods to shoot him, he looks surprised, something is off there for sure.

The important thing to notice is that Red John can't be wither Bertram, McAllister or Reede Smith because in the next episode Great Red Dragon, when they Round up Tyger Tyger group, Patrick says "He is one of them" but he already knows that Bertram, McAllister adn Reede Smith are part of Tyger Tyger, then why say he is one of them. So RJ will be concealed with the Tyger Tyger group, and will be revealed in episode 8.

So Bob Kirkland and not Micheal is Red John.

Actually Michael Kirkland, the 'evil brother'.

Makes sense that PJ wouldn't differentiate shaking Bob Kirklands hand from Michael Kirklands if they are twins...possibly identical.

He's the right age, fits all the criteria of the description of red john. He would know Styles from working at the visualise farm, where he committed his first murder and painted the face on the barn.

Also, profiling would suggest that he has been exposed to violence when he was growing up through an abusive father.


I think it's very plausible, and would be the type of story line that this tv show would take.

Thanks for reading,

Stu

My friends,
after almost 6 years of failure, let's be honest, Jane is unable to find RJ's identity !
He's so smart this Dexter Morgan's competitor ! Maybe they are friends on Facebook and spend nights talking on Whatsapp about their kills skills.
At Jane's house, when the suspects are together, a striptease began (to find the tattoo, the latest clue).But no chance, 3 of them have the same tatoo. What to do, only 2 episodes to find RJ?
Red John is supposed to be a great leader, very charismatic, very manly.
Then no time to lose, Jane will order them to continue the striptease, it's obvious that the one who has the longest penis is Red John !
I don't why but I bet on Bertram  :D

Maybe there was a gas leak during this meeting, and the explosion is caused by a fart of Sherif McAllister !

Surprise, Red John is actually Bob Kirkland's brother, who was masturbating, watching them getting naked through a window.
That's what we will discover at the 8th espisode: Red John is gay and was in love with Jane.
He illed his wife because he was just jealous.

This is the most realistic theory of this site, or else, I have no else explanations !  ;)