Who is Red John?

All theories about

« See the other suspects

Brett Partridge

Brett Partridge
Suspected in 1k+ theories

THE THEORIES

Ignore the Brett Partridge picture and enjoy. As most of us know, Red John will be reviled on Nov 24th in the episode titled "My Blue Heaven" directed by Simon Baker. The title is the first one without a reference to the color red and is, as far as I am concerned in reference to the song of the same title. Many artists have sang it, including a Red Norvo, but I posted the version by Frank Sinatra. The lyrics are posted below which include "Just Molly and me, and the baby is three" (a possible reference to Jane, his wife and daughter) and "You're gonna see my smilin' face.." Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSodKWo52Xw

Whippoorwills call, evenin' is nigh
Hurry to my blue heaven
Turn to the right, there's a little white light
Will lead you to my blue heaven

You'll see a smilin' face, a fireplace, a cozy room
Little nest that nestles where the roses bloom
Molly and me, and the baby makes three
We're happy in my, in my blue heaven

You're gonna see a smilin' face, fireplace, cozy room
And a little nest nestled where the roses bloom

Just molly and me, and the baby is three
We're so happy in my blue heaven
We're happy in my blue heaven
We're happy in my blue heaven

Argue on this theory or rate it.
plausible
unlikely

My bet's on Partrigde. But this a comment on something that just struck me: what if PJ made the video HIMSELF of Loreli saying the 7 suspects. He could have crafted that video himself in order to send Lisbon (and consequently the whole gang) on a goose chase after those shady characters PJ suspects are up to no good. Who also PJ does not believe ARE RJ, but that scrutinizing them could LEAD  him to RJ. This would explain how the heck that video was made.

How possibly could RJ have known a list of suspects in PJ's head? a) RJ is psychic? Waaay too easy. We are supposed to bite that bait. naw. b)He saw a list of those names? A fake list set out by PJ just in case he was spyed upon? plausible, but also not very intriguing writing.

Another thing,  if someone can so easily (twice now) get into PJ's room, why then are those people not bugging the room? And why are PJ and Lisbon not cautious in that regard? They blab on and on in his room RIGHT after PJ's room was (allegedly) broken into for the "fake" list -as we know it. Poor writing? Heller way underestimating audience? i dont think so. this is way too obvious a consideration. basic spy tactics, c'mon. Perhaps PJ knows/assumes room is bugged (like any good detective/mentalist would conclude) and makes sure he only says things in that room he doesnt care that RJ (or whoever the bugger may be) hears. He may even say things deliberately to lead listener in a particular direction.

summary:
1)PJ crafted Loreli video. she agreed for whatever reason or exchange.
2)Video sent Lisbon down a path to get the 7
3)PJ was broken into for the fake list
4)PJ assumes he's being bugged so uses it to his advantage.
5)PJ tells Lisbon only what he needs her to hear to get him closer bcs HE wants to be the ONLY and FIRST one to catch and destroy RJ.

Argue on this theory or rate it.
plausible
unlikely

So I have never though BP was RJ, but maybe. 

What of this,  Tyger-Tyger Mob got PJ list.  Some of T-T are on the list.  So then kill off the ones on the list that are not part of T-T.   Getting RJ in the process.    In doing so T-T becomes the new villain.   Lisbon and the team must clean up the T-T group.  Rigsby and Van Pelt and soon off the show Van Pelt is part of T-T and draws Rigsby in.  They are kill or otherwise shuffled off the show.


Argue on this theory or rate it.
plausible
unlikely

So I have never though BP was RJ. 

What of this,  Tyger-Tyger Mob got PJ list.  Some of T-T are on the list.  So then kill off the ones on the list that are not part of T-T.   Getting RJ in the process.    In doing so T-T becomes the new villain.   Lisbon and the team must clean up the T-T group.  Rigsby and Van Pelt and soon off the show Van Pelt is part of T-T and draws Rigsby in.  They are kill or otherwise shuffled off the show.


Argue on this theory or rate it.
plausible
unlikely

Oh my gosh guys the reveal is in 20 days!!! (Supposedly.) I'm sooo excited...but I'm also very nervous. We've all been building this thing up in our minds since the beginning..and it's going to be impossible to make everyone happy with the ending. I've been imagining how the final scene between Jane and Red John will play out..(and I'm sure all of you have as well)..and I can only hope that Heller creates something that will live up to those expectations. Now..on to one of the (extremely important) things that will either make me a happy, contented Mentalist fan..or an enraged fan screaming, crying, and throwing things at my TV.

Red John's identity.

Only two of the suspects could possibly leave me satisfied with the RJ ending. Brett Partridge and Raymond Haffner. Partridge is my #1, but if it turns out not to be him..:'( then my last, desperate hope is that it's Haffner. I will be crushed if it is anyone else...disappointed would not even begin to describe the feeling. Second:

Delivery.

If they reveal RJ and then kill him with absolutely no explanation of how and why he did the things he did, I will be furious. I want SOME flashbacks at least explaining a few of the many mysterious things that RJ was able to accomplish throughout the show. And how did he do what he did to Kristina Frye?? That reallyyy deserves an explanation. Also, I want to know how RJ is connected to both the Tyger Tyger organization and Visualize. Obviously Bret Stiles is connected to RJ somehow..and I hope that will be explained.

Anyway..I think I'm done ranting now. Thanks to anyone who bothered to read my jumbled thoughts:P What do you guys think? How do you want the "final scene" to play out?

Argue on this theory or rate it.
plausible
unlikely

I'm not sure any of the seven suspects is dead yet.

And Lorelei Martin is likely to be alive as well. How else could she record the tape with the suspect list before Jane even came up with the names?

Brett Partridge could have been Red John faking his own death. I mean, if you were Red John, and wanted to throw off Jane and Lisbon, what better way?

Or, as far as Bob Kirkland, how do we the twin working for Homeland wasn't really Michael, and Michael was the one who got killed? That way, Bob could still be Red John, despite was seemed like a pretty legit slaying. Also fits Homeland Kirkland asking Red John associates, Do you recognize me?

I mean, it CAN'T just be some process of elimination, where The Last Man Standing is Red John. Too pedestrian.

True, Heller said: " I can tell you it won’t be a sort of Ten Little Indians type of of set up,"

But how about instead of one faked death, we're going to get a whole bunch? They're all Red John associates, fitting the Seven Dragon theory thingy whatchamacallit Blake poem.

Maybe Bob Kirkland (not dead) will turn out to be the only one who is not a Red John associate, and turns up alive to be the one who actually catches Red John.

I'm just saying: This cross-off-the-checklist kind of plot isn't cool enough for a show that prides itself on twists and turns.

Somebody's coming back from the dead!

Jane is always tricking people with scams and stunts. Why not Red John? Hey, he already got Jane to kill a surrogate.

Oh, and what is Van Pelt's role in helping Red John? She leaked the suspect list, and Patridge supposedly gets killed. She was supposedly watching when Christina Frye got abducted by Red John. It might even be Red John's idea for her to marry Rigsby, so she's in touch with as much intel as possible? Who changed the fraternizing rules? Was that Gale Bertram?





Argue on this theory or rate it.
plausible
unlikely

One more piece of the puzzle solved:

The reason Red John does not kill again (to our knowledge) for ten years after the Red Barn slaying is because after the killings, he runs off and joins the carnies. That's where he picks up his Mentalist skills. He probably wound up moving around a lot....

Argue on this theory or rate it.
plausible
unlikely
Follow us on