Assuming that one of the seven is really rj, then it has to be Brett Partridge. Apart from the fact that he was introduced right from the first episode, he is also the only name (out of the 7) that appers on the page of pj's initial agenta of suspects as shown very briefly at the finale of s5ep9. In fact the name is less visible due to the shade of pj's finger, but if you freeze the picture it is very clear.
My opinion is that Brett partridge is Red John because he stands out too much.
His character has been intertwined with RJ from the first episode of the show. He was put there before most of the script was written, they wanted RJ to be in the first episode, even before they knew how his character would play out. The producers just needed a face at the start of the series, so that by the end of the show, when he is caught, RJ's story would complete a full circle and have a beginning too, not just an end. It's highly unlikely they will chose someone else.
In the list of the seven suspects he stand out by being by far the youngest there, also RJ nominates him last on the cd. I don't think a serial killer like RJ would put himself randomly in the middle of list like some no-name, he would put himself either first or last.
Another thing that I think is a clue is that he always tries to be the buffoon, the joker of the room, trying to grab Jane's attention and always mocking him.
In the first appearance, in the fake RJ murder, he takes control of the room and quickly proceeds to explain how RJ killed them, "classic RJ smiley face" and declares himself "spooked to finally see one(smiley face) in the flesh", although he obviously knows it wasn't him, he's just happy to mock Jane in plane sight.
In the second murder, when it really was him, he states the opposite, he says it's not RJ. It's not an attempt to lead Jane away from the truth, it would be a very thin attempt if it was, he just likes to mess with Jane by always taking a different opinion.
In the old lady incineration episode he enjoys making Jane sick by being overly macabre and giving disgusting details because he knows Jane doesn't have the stomach for that sort of things.
Also, when he appears on the two RJ murder investigation, the camera always films him with the :-) showing behind his shoulder whenever he talks to Jane. You can't get anymore symbolic than that. Or can you? The first time we see Brett Partridge is when he explains the path the supposedly RJ murderer took in the house. He walks through the door into the room using himself to describe the movement of the attacker. His first line is "Red John enters here".
could brett be jimmy? if he is the brother of jane. hence the similarities, kind of like mycroft and sherlock or dexter and ice truck killler, [jimmy will of course have to exist]
Have we seen Red John in the final scene of Season 3 finale episode "Strawberries and Cream"?
When Patrick is in the mall facing Timothy Carter, the fake Red John, in the background is a man wearing a long red shirt, black pants and a black baseball cap. His back is turned to us, as he is talking to a man wearing a green apron, apparently a clerk at the coffee station. The man is much taller than the clerk, perhaps about 6 ft. tall, with a thin profilel
He appears later in the same scene, still talking to the clerk, and finally after Patrick shoots Timothy and sits down at the table, where two store policemen rush up to him with pistols, he is seen rapidly running across the scene in the background, from left to right. The running figure is too indistinct to see many features, but he appears to have short dark hair.
Of course it could just be another red herring by Heller, but he did say that we may have had a fleeting glimpse of RJ. If that running figure was RJ, he seems to fit Brett Partridge's profile best.
Why would Lorelei tell RJ that she told PK that RJ and PK shook hands , i mean Lorelei hates RJ now , because RJ raped and killed her sister,and in the RJ video RJ said "Lorelei told me what she told you about shaking my hand" , because he wants to cover on who ever told him which is Lisbon , because Lisbon is the only one who knows that Lorelei told PK that RJ and PK shook hands .
People who said that red john is one person different that appears in the list, please , reconsidering that.
Brett Patridge it could be the winner of who is red john . If the episodes dosen't lie, and i don't think so, he is the perfect for Rosalie's description, he loves to see the fear on peopels faces , and uou, he appears always when red john murder someone.
The other suspecs are bad people, people who had a trouble past, probably relationated with red john, but they don't are him.
The question now if how can he knows the 7 suspects and if it is true that mentalist exist. I hope that Jain could answer that on the new season..
The information below is a collection good of theory's that I have somewhat consolidated. I tried to place as much fact into each of the suspects and their lightly-hood of being RJ as of yet. At the end I have given my personal thoughts on the matter; thoughts not based on fact. Please read and feel free to give me feed back!
Bret Stiles
Seen in:
Season 2 Episode 20 -
Red All Over
Season 3 Episode 3 - The
Blood on His Hands
Season 4 Episode 16 -
His Thoughts Were Red Thoughts
Season 5 Episode 8 - Red
Sails in the Sunset
Suspicions of being Red John:
~Runs a cult so extremely manipulative like Red John.
~High intellect, has so far avoided jail and held the leadership of
Visualize through his cunning and intellect.
~Knew the location of
Kristana Frye while she was being held by Red John.
Red John verdict:
~While having a strong
connection to Red John is very unlikely to be Red John himself. The voice and
age do not match what we've seen of Red John. Also it is very unlikely that Red
John would help Jane facilitate the escape of Lorelei Martins.
Gale Bertram:
Seen in:
Season 3 Episode 1 - Red
Sky at Night
Season 3 Episode 4 - Red
Carpet Treatment
Season 3 Episode 13 -
Red Alert
Season 3 Episode 16 -
Red Queen
Season 3 Episode 23 -
Strawberries and Cream: Part 1
Season 3 Episode 24 -
Strawberries and Cream: Part 2
Season 4 Episode 1 -
Scarlet Ribbons
Season 4 Episode 2 -
Little Red Book
Season 5 Episode 1 - The
Crimson Ticket
Season 5 Episode 3 - Not
One Red Cent
Season 5 Episode 14 -
Red in Tooth and Claw
Season 5 Episode 16 -
There Will Be Blood
Suspicions of being Red John:
~Quoted William Blake
like Red John.
~Was already on suspected
of being Red John or one of his accomplices back in Strawberries and Cream.
~High level position
which would allow him to develop his contacts and accomplices.
Red John verdict:
~He's a possible
candidate due to his position, but I feel he's been gamed by Jane too many
times for him to be Red John. Also most recently, in Red in Tooth and Claw, I
feel he would not need the help from Jane to do better in Poker if he was Red
John.
Ray Haffner:
Seen in:
~Season 4 Episode 2 -
Little Red Book
~Season 5 Episode 13 -
The Red Barn
Suspicions of being Red John:
~Has shaken hands with
Jane when they first met.
~High Ranking member of
the CBI.
~Confirmed Visualize
member, but unconfirmed to whether he was at the Barn the same time as Red
John.
Red John verdict:
~We haven't seen enough
of him to really get a feel for him so I place him high on the chances of being
Red John for being a member of Visualize and fitting the age, build,
intelligence criteria.
Reede Smith:
Seen in:
~Season 5 Episode 1 - The
Crimson Ticket
Suspicions of being Red John:
~Part of the FBI
Red John verdict:
~Honestly, I have no idea
why this guy is on the list. We know literally nothing about him. His partner
Gabe Mancini makes a better suspect than this guy does.
Robert Kirkland:
Seen in:
~Season 5 Episode 5 - Red
Dawn
~Season 5 Episode 7 - If
It Bleeds, It Leads
~Season 5 Episode 8 - Red
Sails in the Sunset
~Season 5 Episode 16 -
There Will Be Blood
~Season 5 Episode 18 -
Behind the Red Curtain
~Season 5 Episode 19 -
Red Letter Day
Suspicions of being Red John:
~Shook Jane's hand at the
end of If It Bleeds, It Leads.
~Member of Homeland Security which allows him to develop contacts and
accomplices.
~Has a high interest in
the Red John case and Lorelei Martins.
~Kills Jason Lennon who knows the identity of Red John.
~Has agents break into
Jane's room to gather all the information that Jane has on Red John.
Red John verdict:
~Most likely a Red John
accomplice. He met Jane and shook hands with him while Lorelei was in jail so
she had no way of knowing they had met. Also it would be too dangerous for Red
John himself to go kill Jason Lennon personally.
Thomas McAllister:
Seen in:
~Season 1 Episode 2 - Red
Hair and Silver Tape
Suspicions of being Red John:
~Honestly, I've got
nothing. Everything about him screams not Red John.
Red John verdict:
~Probably not Red John, if it's him I will be sorely disappointed.
Brett Partridge:
Seen in:
~Season 1 Episode 1 -
Pilot
~Season 2 Episode 23 -
Red Sky in the Morning
~Season 5 Episode 15 -
Red Lacquer Nail Polish
~Season 5 Episode 22 -
Red John's Rules
Suspicions of being Red John:
~Completely fascinated by Red John cases.
~Appears at the two
copycat Red John scene saying it was Red John and at the actual Red John scene
says its not him.
~Height, build and voice
are most similar to Red John.
~The Tyger is a poem by William Blake, who also has a painting called A Brace of
Partridge .
~He is creepy and PJ dislikes him from the start. (Accuses him of liking his job too much (Forensics expert))
~His job would allow him to perfectly remove any trace of him.
Red John verdict:
~He is the most likely
candidate for being Red John, but too likely. But he was seen in the very first
episode and important Red John episodes. He may just end up being a red
herring, but he's still at the top of my list of Red John suspects.
Analysis:
In the last episode we are
given the most information about Red John, however there are also
many loose ends that are never accounted for.
PJ always keeps his study
room locked, however he revels to all of the CBI that he is close to
finding RJ and leaves his study unlocked while he sleeps. He sets
the trap to see if his study is broken into. After finding his study was broken
into PJ is seen burning his evidence, he is also no longer concerned with
Lisbon entering.
It seems to me that PJ had
his list, but was stuck. So he sets the room up to be discovered. This seems to
be a ploy that may or may not have worked. And it is possible that the list was
a decoy.
How else would RJ be able to know the list, unless
PJ is RJ and I hate that theory. RJ is clever, but not omniscient.
So I would conclude that while the list could
contain RJ, it is also very possible that the list is incomplete as of now. I
would be willing to bet that RJ grew up with PJ and parted ways as children.
Then when PJ was reintroduced to RJ he was under an alias. That is the only way
for RJ to know so much about PJ, and the reasoning behind the torment that RJ
seems so determined to inflict on PJ. A grudge that could be explained by say,
PJ's Brother or Father.
If we assume that the list is complete and RJ is
one of the seven. Then it would seem obvious that Partridge is Red John.
I seriously doubt we will ever know, and like so many TV
shows before we will always have debates and arguments as to the real killer.
We all hope it doesn't happen, but prepare yourselves friends.
Please let me know your thoughts, and thanks for
reading.
Credit to ispikey.
