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Brett Partridge

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Patrick Jane is not Red John. Just accept the fact that Jane is not Red John. Do not be an ignorant dog. Bruno Heller already said it in the interview. 

Bruno Heller also says that the list is real. Do not try to twist the fact that the list was fake and that kind of bullshit. Some people are just butthurt that Mashburn are not Red John. You deserve it because you being too stupid to realise the truth. Mashburn is too tall to be Red John.

I can tolerate a theory if it is one of the people inside the 7 list of suspect. It pisses me off to see idiots mentioning Cho, Rigsby, Lisbon or Van Pelt to be Red John. They dont watch all the episodes and they say as if it was a fact. Read all the evidences and clues before making an impossible theory.

Here are things that retarded people says about Brett Partridge:
Brett Partridge is too young to be Red John
Do your research will you? The actor who plays Partridge is older than the actor who plays Patrick Jane. You can make theory that Jane is Red John but cannot approve the theory that Partridge is Red John? Where is the logic in there?!?

 Brett Partridge is too dumb to be Red John
How do you know he is dumb? How can he be dumb if he is a FORENSIC EXPERT? A dumb people would not be investigating crime. Have you ever think about that?

Brett Partridge is too obvious to be Red John
Just because he is obvious, doesnt mean he cant be Red John... If he is too obvious to be Red John, than why are you idiots still making a theory about Kirkland, Stiles and Haffner? Arent they obvious too?!?

Brett Partridge does not have the resources to be Red John
How do you guys know that he does not have the resources?!? Did you guys have the evidence that Brett Partridge does not have the resources to be Red John? You guys just making stupid assumption just to piss people off.

Brett Partridge is clearly old enough and fit all the characteristic to be Red John. He acts silly to throw people off.

I dont care if one of the other seven is Red John. I still enjoy watching mentalist. I just have low tolerance of bullshit. I cannot stand when people deny the fact that Red John can be Partridge.

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Well, I won't list the reasons which leads me to believe that Partridge is RJ, because others already did it even better that I could.

I want to draw your attention to two interesting and suspicious points:

1. Someone possibly have said it already, but in the beggining of seasons finale Lisbon shows up with her hand injuried and not a single explanation is given. She just said that hurts in the night before: the night of the murder. Is Lisbon a RJs accomplice?

2. What if the list is fake and was previously prepared by Jane? Do you remember when he puts a stick in the door? He could have prepared the entire board, knowing that RJs would have access (by a CBI helper or by Kirkland - even if he's not a Red Johns guy or RJ himself, he could have been spied) and, in this way, make RJ thinks that have advantage when in fact is the opposite, because Patrick would know that RJs just thinks that he restricted the suspicion to that 7, however, he restricted to a list even shorter or have anothers extra-suspects.

The thing is, based on the idea of Jane having a different list than that one cited by RJ:
1. If RJ is someone in the supposed fake list, Patrick could be closer than Red John thinks (thinking that the real list is shorter)
2. If RJ is someone out of the supposed fake list*, Jane makes RJ feels relieved deceiving him and making more clear the far RJs can reach

* I know Heller said that RJ is someone on the 7 of Jane's list, however, he may have...lied. I guess he did it before, isn't he?


Anyone support this line of reasoning, Jane's being clever than the series make it looks, dodging including RJ, playing the fool when his suspect list is revealed by him?

(PS: Sorry for the english, I'm brasilian and not fluent, but did my best to make it as clear as I could, hope it's not confuse)

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I Think Brett is Red John !! we know that Red John had a source of information From the inside of CBI !! well he need information about the result of investigation of his owen crimes !! so he need somebody who is working on Red John's cases !! So Brett the expert doctor of Red John's Crimes is the perfect cover for the job !! however he must be so clever to fool Jane All this Time Long !! I Hope that My theory be right !! i have not a real evidence but the show let me no other choice.
P.S : Thank you For the idea.

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there are a few things patrick is always saying
1.cold reading
2.hot reading
3.memory palace
4.i'm no psyquic..i'm just paying attention.
5.rj thinks of himself as a showman,an artist
 has a strong sense of theater

there are patterns in which after watching all five seasons you can tell that:
1.red john works always in the same way even patrick says so in the fifth season finale.there are also patterns  in the first 4 finales somebody says when did you know or you really had me going.SEASON-1.sherriff hardy"you really had me going you never really did go see the judge.SEASON-2..i know what they are doing they got your mother right...yes how did you know?.....and then the other two...how did you know it was us?SEASON-3...timothy says..what are you going to do your friends are gone?patrick didn't know until end of the rope line.....which says timothy knew gale would get rid of them and feed olaughlin to the wolvesSEASON-.4 when did you know?oh you strung me along for a long while now.
patrick has patterns too...every single episode he finds the killer using cold reading and paying attention...you know some of those tricks he has done to ,cho,lisbon,vanpelt and wayne throughout the series..cold readings...the happy memory can be explained being a cold  or hot reading...other patterns...1 jane tricked sheriff hardy..3jane tricked gale bertram..4jane tried to trick rj....SEASON 5 i can't actually prove it but i think jane fooled rj giving him those suspects based on the evidence he had in that room that he even knew somebody might brake into.

here's part of a very interesting scene in season 1......
 i'm supposed to find who put you up to this,
you see my friends think you are an idiot.
being a fool gives you sore of a power doesn't it?
you are there and you are not there
is like having a wizard's cloak of invisivility.
looking back i should've known it was you the first
time i saw you.only an idiot would wear a tshirt like that to a
house in mourning...an idiot or daring killer with a warp sense of humor.
you're going down for this one you might as well go down as your true self.
there's no point in hiding anymore i can see you.iam curious are there two
of you?or is tommy just an act that you put on.
-please i'm not a mental case.tommy is an act,a performance.

NOW imagine brett partridge in his place...and read it again...it makes sense that what if brett is red john is acting and giving a performance portraying something he is not...A WEAK PERSON like brett partridge and show up in some fake and some real red john's murder scenes.HOW IS THAT FOR A WARP SENSE OF HUMOR.

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Bruno Heller the creator of the show confirmed in an interview that red john is definately one of the seven names on patricks list. i think its brett partridge because he is always there and it would make sense!

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First of all, sorry for mi English.

I've seen a lot of people who will be disappointed about Red John's identity, we must remember, he's just man, probably, one of the seven suspects on Jane's list. Mi theory, we have to forget about the rest and focus on that list, because Red John is there.

Before knowing the list I thought Red John was:
- Virgil Minelli
- Walter Mashburn
- Bret Stiles
- Brett Patridge 

So, as I said before, we can forget about Minelli and Mashburn. 

Bret Stiles is Red John:
- He has a lot of friends everywhere 
- He knows a lot of information about Red John, where is Kristina Frye for example. 
- He is intelligent, convincing and he likes tricking Jane.
- He is the leader of Visualize and we haven't real information about what it is, but who knows, maybe it's a place to find new "friends" or disciples. 

Bret Stiles is not Red John:
- He is too old (it's just an opinion)
- It would "too easy"

So, the common sense make me think that Bret Stiles should be Red John, but I don't know exactly why, I've got the feeling that it would be too easy for us. I mean, the first time I saw Bret Stiles, I thought about the possibility of being Red John. I think Bret Stiles knows that he is one of the suspects and he just wants to trick Jane. To sum up, in my opinion, Bret Stiles is not Red John.
 
Brett Patridge is Red John:
- He appears on the first episode ("Pilot")
- He always appears when someone imitates Red John. 
- He works for the police so he has access to the information he needs.
- He seems to admire Red John
- Jane hates him

Brett Patridge is not Red John:
- Some people say that he is too young (in fact, he is 44)

As you can see, I think Brett Patridge is Red John.
He appears on the first episode ("Pilot") and he is hidden until the last episode of the second season where someone else tries to imitate Red John, to imitate him. 
Why starting everything with an episode where someone imitates Red John? It would be better starting with a real Red John case. Why with an imitation? Because they wanted us to see Red John's real identity since the first episode, they wanted us to see Brett Patridge.

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First of all, Patrick Jane? The most stupid theory I've ever heard. Bruno Heller said Jane isn't RJ, also it doesn't make sense.

Bob Kirkland - It can't be someone who comes on in season 5. Also it would be so obvious with handshake. I think RJ killed someone from his family and Kirkland wants to get RJ on his own. But this is just my theory.
Raymond Haffner - It would be disappointment. Maybe, but I don't think so. He is too short in serial.
Bret Stiles - He is too old. Look on RJ behaviour when he met PJ or when he is with Rosalind. It can't be.
Reede Smith - No, no, no
Thomas McAllister - It would be shock.
Gale Bertam - He is so stupid, RJ wouldn't lose in poker. But I think he is involed.

Red John is Brett Partridge. He is from first episode, his voice is very similar with RJ's voice. Rosalind's description - right. Connections in FBI, CBI? I think he has. Also Brett = Red. "A brace of Partridge" is painted by William Blake, the same guy who wrote a poem "Tyger, Tyger" whose RJ cited. Just look on his face - he is a sociopath.

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