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Brett Partridge

Brett Partridge
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I always look forward to reading everyone's theories-lots of good points and ideas. Right now I'm leaning toward Partridge, but I have been curios about something for awhile. Pj isn't religious but Lisbon is often seen wearing a cross. I would love to hear thoughts on this. Thanks!

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I know that there are a
lot of theories about Brett Partridge. What I want to do is not to make another one, but to add to some of them another
aspect that may be relevant. 



Let's start by picking the four episodes that Brett Partridge appeared:

Pilot; Red Sky in the Morning; Red Lacquer Nail
Polish; Red John's Rules.


On the first one, Pilot, you have his first
appearance in the show. It's a Red John copycat, but Brett says it is the real
Red John. 



On the second One, Red
Sky in the Morning, again you have a Red John copycat, and again you see Brett
saying that it is the real one.


On the third episode, Red
Lacquer Nail Polish, you don’t have a Red John case. But he says that it was
accident, while Jane says it was a murder.


On the fourth episode,
Red John’s Rules, you have a Red John case, but again Brett says the opposite,
saying it is a copycat.

 



The question is: Is he supposed
to be wrong all the time? Or is he just playing with Jane? I bet on the second
one. You can’t just say that he doesn’t know Red John well. You just need to
watch again the season 5 finale. He says he’s been working on Red John’s crime
scenes since he begins. And then when the crime scene photographer asks him if
he had killed recently, what did he answer? That it didn’t count, because Lorelei
Martins was an internal issue. So he knows Red John case well. And if you see
the way he says it, it’s like he is answering by himself.

 



But anyway, from all the
suspects, he is the one we know the least. And I believe that this is true for Jane.
But over everything, like his voice, his job, his physical description and what
every other evidence people have about him, what I want to add is this:

 



The three episodes that Brett appeared on a Red John
case (real or copycat) were written by Bruno Heller.
And that is not something to ignore. Especially
if you think that in the two copycat cases – that ordinary non-related to Red
John people tried to copycat him – you have Brett Partridge. That’s not
coincidence at all. He went to the two because he knew that they weren’t his
murderers, and he wanted to see Patrick closely.


 



The thing is, although he
is such a small character compared to the other suspects (or at least the
second smaller), he has always been a Bruno Heller itself character. On the
third episode you can see him on a not-Bruno Heller episode, but you don’t see
a Red John case, so it’s ok.

 



I would bet that on the
next episode he shows up, and it’s a Red John episode, the people behind the
writing will be Bruno Heller itself. And that, my friends, would not be a
coincidence.

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I think that Brett Partridge is RJ:

RJ fooled Patrick trying to make him think that Lorelei was dead, Patrick realized that Lorelei was alive but he didn't show so because he suspected that Lisbon is related to RJ. RJ decides to start killing people close to Patrick, and he kills Leelee, Patrick needs to be sure 100% that Lisbon is RJ's accomplice, so he tells her that Leelee is a happy memory of his, Red John always wants to show to Patrick that he is much smarter than him, so if RJ tells Patrick about the happy memory, Lisbon is with him, because the only possible way RJ could know that Leelee is a happy memory of Patrick is cus' Lisbon told him

Sorry for my English, I've been studying English for 1 year only :D

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Some other theorists have already expressed some aspects of my current theory. I think that Patrick Jane made the video of Lorelei reading the list of the seven suspects, with Lorelei's cooperation, sometime shortly after she had been shot in her arm.


So obviously Jane created the list of seven names, and he wanted only Lisbon to see the video and know the seven. That is why he immediately destroyed the disk. I'm not really sure that Lorelei is really dead, it could have been a setup by Jane so that Red John will think she is no longer a threat to him because he killed her sister. The problem with this, of course, is that RJ would know that he did not kill Lorelei.


Anyway, Jane will be ahead of Red John, and if he later finds out that RJ knows the list of 7, he will also know that Lisbon is connected to RJ, who will probably immediately tell Lisbon that he did not make the video with Lorelei, and Jane will be able to read Lisbon. 

I also think that Rosalin Harker may have lied about the physical and vocal description of RJ, as RJ may have told her to mislead the CBI.

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I'm not sure who it is, but assume I will be disappointed.  I wonder if it is possible that Jane already knows who Red John already is. Jane always knows who the murderer is way before anyone else (most of the time at the beginning of each episode he already knows).  Anyway, it is possible that Jane just wants RJ to feel comfortable so he can make a move that will hurt RJ to the same degree that Jane himself was hurt.  In the case of RJ, I think the way he could be hurt the most would be to destroy his reputation and embarrass him beyond any repair.  To humiliate "the great" RJ would be the ultimate revenge.

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I believe that RJ is Brett Partridge.
(a lot of theories already explained why in details so I'm not going to write the same things)


however, the anagram of some names in the suspects list give interesting results:


Reede Smith ---> THE RED IS ME (heller said we'll be disappointed...)

Reede Smith ---> HE'S RED MEIT ---> HE'S RED MATE (?) (RJ has a good friend in the FBI)

Bret Stiles ---> BRETTS LIES (brett partridge's lies)

in BRETT PARTRIDGE you can find the words RED TIGER PART (tyger, tyger....)



In the season 5 finale there's a scene where Jane asks Brett if he was sure that the killer wasn't RJ. Then you see partridge answering, but if you notice there's the bloody red smile behind him...

it might be a coincidence... but I think they shot the scene that way on purpose
all you see is partridge talking about RJ and the red face behind... it's like heller says "the answer is in front of you jane, can't you see it?"

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Here I am again!
Well, after the seven suspects are revealed, I realize that I’ve unfairly stalkered CBI Ron for too long! :P
So,
I have a theory for four of the seven suspects (I have a theory even
for the other three, Stiles, Smith and Kirkland, but I don't believe
that one of them is Red John).
The authors confirm that one of this seven is actually Red John, so my main suspect is Brett Partridge, and these are the reasons why:

he is the
only one on the list that we have seen since the first episode. If he is
the real Red John everything would have a sort of poetry and genius: he
goes along with us in this manhunt from the beginning, scattering clues
hither and thither.
So, let's see these clues:

First, he is
the only one of the seven to match perfectly the description of
Rosalind. for the other suspects we should be flexible or we should
consider unreliable the description.

Then his debut. Brett
Partridge enters the scene and the first thing he said is "Red John
enters here." Then, as he explains with a certain emphasis and a certain
irony the dynamics of the murder, Patrick recalls in a flashback the
tragic night when he slandered John on TV. The flashback ends and here
comes another interesting clue: Brett says "There she blows", quoting
Moby Dick. We know that this novel has been and continues to be trot out
to describe Patrick's obsessive manhunt against John.
A little later, Patrick defines him as a "ghoul" for the first time and walks away saying "He irks me, he's irksome."

The
second meeting between them it's in episode 2x23. Again, after the
pilot, it is a case of emulation. Again Partridge assumes an irritating
behavior, firstly ignoring the presence of the corpse and turning
cheerfully to Patrick ("Hey, hey, Patrick Jane. Long time. So qué pasa,
dude?"), Then teasing and mocking him about his alleged abilities .
Patrick still denies that it is Red John and leaves the room; Brett calls him "jerk" and Patrick comes back, scaring him.
Later
it will be Red John to do the same thing with Patrick: Firstly he
recites the famous verse of The Tyger, then he comes back, scaring
Patrick, and tells him about Kristina.
If Partridge is really John, this could be his way of revenge for the previous humiliation.
All
of That would be a farce to show himself less intelligent than he is.
No matter if Patrick gets the better of Brett, because when Brett
assumes the identity of Red John, he will always be a step ahead or
more.

The third meeting between Patrick and Brett occurs in the
episode 5x15: It's been a long time since we've seen him and it's
curious that he reappears in a case which is not about Red John, but
anticipating the episode in which Lorelei died.
This is the second
time that Patrick calls him "ghoul", and he has all the reasons to do
it: Brett has fun to explain with the most nauseating details the steps
of a human combustion. It must be said that Cho doesn't give him much
satisfaction (Cho is always a legend), but Patrick is shown once again
annoyed ... and disgusted. :D
There are two other interesting details
in this scene: the first concerns the Partridge's mother Partridge:
Brett talks about her in the past tense, so she must be dead. And when
he recalls her, he scratches his neck, a gesture of discomfort, as if
his mother is a sore spot for him. The other detail concerns what
Partridge reads:
at some point he mentions a novel and both Patrick
and Cho identify it as "Bleak House" by Charles Dickens. When Patrick
mentions the title and the author it seems that Brett makes the same
labial movements, as if in fact he was just pretending not to remember
the book. Dickens is not a vital clue, however, it indicates some
interest in English literature by Partridge, and Red John is also
interested in English literature (The Tyger by William Blake).

At last, we have the episode 5x22:
this
is the first time we can see Partridge in a crime scene of the real Red
John. And we can see his totally different attitude than that one he
taken in the emulators crime scenes: very serious, no irony and no
desire to tease Patrick. Moreover, when the killer is an emulator, Brett
says that it is John; when the killer is John he says that it is an
emulator. This is very strange: he wants to pass for a dumb, but these
"errors" are too precise to be random. They are few minutes but full of
information: Partridge says to his colleague he handed the Red John's
case since he began to kill, so since before the pilot episode, in which
Brett shows himself excited to finally see the Red John's smiley face
in flesh . But he should have seen it other occasions if he already
handed the case from the beginning. Maybe the writers have forgotten
that line. :P
Nevermind, we know that Brett handed the case from the
beginning and this reminds me of the episode with James Panzer: Patrick
said on TV that the San Joaquin killer was someone who has Themselves
attached to the investigation somehow ... someone hiding in plain sight.
And
even when Patrick made Ellis Mars to be the suspect of the murders in
the episode 3x09, Lisbon said that it's a common psychopathic profile,
classic almost. They seek a part in the investigation, they seek the
spotlight. The analogy with Brett makes sense.
Brett also explains that John is Been laying low for years, working through friends
and
proxies: Lorelei Martins doesn't count, that was an internal issue.
These words are reflected in those of the message of John, who warns
Patrick that he is going to start killing again. Often.
Then Patrick
enters the scene: the air we breathe is totally different from the other
times. Everything is seriously, creepy: Patrick talks with respect to
Brett for the first time, calling him "Mr. Partridge". Brett grants room
and time for Patrick. When it's the real Red John no games and no
"ticktock".

In conclusion of this theory an additional clue that
came to my mind the day after the episode 5x22: Heller said in an
interview that "Red John likes cold."  It seems that this clue has not
yet been deciphered by anyone, but suddenly after the last episode I had
this intuition (which might be a bullsh*t). :D
Well, who are we
talking about here? Brett the partridge But the partridge is also a bird
" and this bird likes a cold climate, if I'm not wrong.

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