think about it and look at like this :
the 7 suspects is a joke,why? think about it....patrick has been working on the suspects for a long time almost since the beginning of season 5....wayyyy before the 7 suspects patrick used a toothpick on the door to his room,therefore any smart person would think patrick has aplan that NOBODY KNOWS.therefore anything that kirkland found has been tampered with or in other words everything kirkland found was because patrick wanted him to find or whoever entered his room.therefore after the season finale when patrick saw the dvd he knew who entered his room.therefore the list is fake made by patrick by leaving the right clues so that the certain people were found as suspects therefore having the upperhand....which explains why people like the sherriff and reid were on the list to throw red john off and make him think that patrick is way off and really has no idea who he really is...i have a feeling that patrick already knows who red john is he is just waiting for the right time to make his move.....and for some reason laureli martins have something to do with this.I wouldn;t be surprise if another video surfaces before the end of the season telling patrick who red john is ....or something very very especific....also teresa could be being pressure by red john somehow so patrick would tell her what he knows about his identity,buy patrick is not falling for that....so far.....think about this: what character makes perfect sense as red john? let say for the sake of argument that bob kirkland is revealed as red john....after so many seasons if the show ends doesn't the audience have to see somehow red john in the other seasons?if red john or bob kirkland the audience can't place them in other seasons WHAT WOULD THE POINT BE FOR WATHCHING THE REST OF THE SEASONS?....to me gale bertram makes perfect sense because he was somehow involved in some season finales and some very important scenes related to red john....and kirkland is the one that gave gale  the info in the room..either willingly or by blackmail by gale or whoever red john is.....MAKES SENSE TO ME !

In the first episode of season 3, Gale Bertram addressed Jane as "Wonder Boy". This is what they used to call him when he was still in the carny.

If he is Red John, this would explained how Timothy Carter knew where to go.

I dont think he is too old. RJ is not that young because he was long time friend of Orville Taner (father of the Sheriff Dumar).

After Bertram finally beats Judge Manchester at poker, he says to Lisbon "I gutted him", which is how RJ kills his victims. Could be nothing, but could be a playful clue from the writers.

Episode 6x18, Behind the red curtains.. Kirkland asks to Lorelei's surviving victim (cant remember his name) if he recognizes him and that he is his friend.. And then kills him! Though it makes me think he his RJ, it would be way too obvious!
So I'm thinking that he is doing the job for someone else.. And do you remember few episodes before when Kirland and Bertram in the office say that they can't trust anyone, referring to Lisbon?
So RJ may be Gale at the end!

So... I've been quite skeptical of Bertram as being RJ, but I noticed something in the episode where Hightower is framed for the murder of Todd Johnson. It's already been pointed out that this is the episode where Bertram quotes a poem from William Blake (and, might I add, he seems just slightly evasive when questioned about where the poem comes from). What I noticed this time is that Laroche notes that it was Bertram who informed him of Hightower's affair that led to her being number one on the suspect list.

Sure, this could be another neat coincidence, but it is curious that a potential RJ was the one who effectively 'framed' her by dropping the thought that put on the top of the list. And, Jane hints earlier that RJ's insider was probably trying to set her up all along.

With this said, the biggest downside of the Bertram-as-RJ theory is that he should have worked out the set up at the end of the season and thus not walked into Jane's trap... But, at the same time, perhaps he recognised it was a trap but nonetheless though Hightower might be there, hence having the assassin start in the room above and then scale down to the one below - covering both rooms (as he wouldn't have know about the additional rooms).

Does this add anything to the Bertram theory?


Ps - enough with Patrick as RJ. Asides for the many reasons why that doesn't work, it would be incredibly disappointing for viewers to discover the whole show to be an extended rip off of Fight Club. I don't think Bruno has set out to do that!

Everyone remember "Tyger Tyger"? The poem that Red John recited? Well, the author of that poem is William Blake (often connected with Serial kiillers because of his dark christian-based work).  Well, Blake is quoted by another character, once, in the entire series, at the end of a case, NOT in the presence of Jane. Blake was quoted by Bertram, and Cho picked up on the fact that the author was Blake, and then this was NEVER mentioned again. A perfect piece of dramatic irony, a clue that would give Jane everything he needs to know, but Cho didn't know to give it to him.

Hi all.
Why Bertram?Well its simple really.He has connections,he knows poetry,he is the only one who has known that Patrick was at the mall in Strawberries and cream so he could sent The fake RJ to meet him,then the scene with kirkland in the office with him,but the most important clue is his age,many people think that RJ is young,a kid but thats where your wrong renember the seaon 1 finale with Rosalind Harker?Dumar or the cop that was a friend of Roy said that Roy or RJ was a long time friend of Dumars father so RJ cant be Kirkland or Partridge or Haffner or Reed.
I want also to give you my opinion on some theories that are now in the air.
1)Lorelie is alive.I must say that there has been a lot of evidence that she is infact alive but one thing doesnt add up,if Patrick recorded the video if hes behind it then how and why did the tape end up with RJ deciple ,that would mean that Patrick and RJ are friends what i dont think its possible.

2) Robert Kirkland
I must tell you that he isnt RJ,but he could have a fude aginst him.He might have been in a relationship with Lorelies sister and when RJ killed her he swore on revenge thats why he stole the list and killed Lenon but still it doesnt add up,im confused here because he would ask him who RJ is,but he isnt RJ because if you renember when Lenon was still in his house on the floor he knew who RJ was you could see it in his face he was smilling and being very proud, maybe Kirk is a deciple of Red John or not Im not sure yet.