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I re watched the episode where jane gets hit with a baseball.
HILl mentioned it earlier about the flashback to janes carnie days.
It had the girl dying with cancer that jane gave the magic healing crystal too.

My point deals with when the Grace Van Pelt Rigsby and the suicidal woman scene at the cemetary.
Grace got very emotional and told a story about her sister who commited suicide and how she did it for herself and Grace was pissed at that.
Grace later tells Rigsby she never had a sister. rIgsby does not believe her if you ask me.
She was very convincing to say the least.

My point is that this episode using both the Grace scene as well as the dying girl with cancer scene, was without a doubt showing them together for a reason. Yea i know bruno is a horrible witer and it means nothing.
*I do not think Grace was related to the little girl in any way. This is a classic case of show a major clue but put in a dash of misdirection.
Jane said that Grace had a very traumatic experience in her past that she never told anyone. Fischer got the same verdict from Patrick.
-The first person Patrick shake hands with was Grace and her face when she saw him for the first time read "i know this dude very well". Ive been made fun of for using facaial expressions as clues . But actors communicate mostly by nonverbal actions, so yea.
The question is , who the hell is GVP? Did she have any siblings or maybe any relatives in the show ?
Who was Amos Van Pelt and why did olaughlin say "tell your dad he is rembered " with a very very serious somber face. For a football coach? Its a game .

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I have a lot to say about tonights episode but I am going to stick to one very subtle thing i have noticed.

*Does Jane have Abbot under hypnosis ? Sounds crazy and pointless i know but I have seen on more than one occasion patrick giving Abbot that pat on the arm like he does to people he is manipulating.
Have you noticed it as well?

-The first time was when Abbot comes out the woodwork and shuts down CBI. I have said all along that Patrick wanted Cbi shutdown. But when they first meet Patrick does the same arm pat to Abbot and it struck me as odd the first time i saw it. I need to go back and see if he did it more other than tonight and the first meeting

--It is very odd that Patrick went from being the Fbis most hated/wanted man to the BOSS! Jane is literally calling all the shots and Abbot has not butt heads with him at all.
--Why? The show tells us Abbot gave into Jane demands because jane MAY have hidden names of BA members.
Abbot says he caught them all but still falls for Jane's trick. This is Abbot, the same guy who laughed at Jane's paper demands and SUDDENLY HANDS OVER THE KEYS TO THE FBI TO PATRICK FOR HAVING MAYBE NAMES THAT PATRICK HAS NOT EVEN DISCUSSED WITH HIM YET??!?!?!? You would think the second Patrick left prison they would have to discuss the other names he had right?

-This show is the king of all misdirection. There are so many mixed signals and the possibilities of truth are endless. The show is going on another break and I think we are done with these little "filler" episodes. Yes they are important but they are just stepping stones to the big things that are about to pop off. You know walking dead has episodes where they just talk then episodes where all bloody fucking hell fire and brimstone errupts. 

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Red John is a popular serial killer who is suppose to have a huge ego and much fame with his followers .
Weird thing to me is that Jane did not create or start Red John to be a killer.

But it seems that Red John only makes a move as it pertains to Jane.
Like he only cares about killing and being Red John ONLY if Jame or somethting involving Jane is a factor.

**Red John after Jane started at CBI killed :
~Jared Wrenfrow -janes witness
~Red john copycats- to save janes life
~Bosco and his team- for jane to get his case back
~Madeline Hightower(failed attempt)- framed for killing janes suspect.
~Wayneright- Fired Jane and stopped Jane from doing his job.
~Panzer- Jane wanted Ref John to kill him
~Lorelie Martins(maybe dead)- Janes biggest witness.
~Sophie Miller - Janes psychiatrist
~Janes happy memory- Nuff said
~Kira Tinsley- Dated Cho also a Jane suspect.
~Brett Partridge- All a ploy to trap Lisbon
~Lisbon- Taken and marked obviously Janes girl.
~Janes House- Who knows who died and what happend.

**When Jane killed Timothy Carter the world thougt Red John was dead.
So what does this ego maniac do?? Nothing !
He waited until Agent Darcy was snooping around to prove he was alive !
Basically he waited until someone was questioning Jane to prove he was alive .
Most likely knew that jane knew he was alive .

****MY POINT :
Red John only does his ghastly deeds if it somehow relates to Jane.
Otherwise he seems to not have any other agenda.
IT SEEMS AS IF RED JOHN HAS FRONT ROW TICKETS TO JANES LIFE .
LIKE HE IS WATCHING EVERYTHING TRANSPIRE LIKE ITS A MOVIE STARING PATRICK JANE.
IF JANE WAS NOT WORKING, RED JOHN WOULDNT DO ANYTHING !
He would take his 401K ill and retire.

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"The desert rose" is a very important episode .
It was stage 1 of Patricks game because Lisbon sprung into action telling Gvp about the list.

*If you watch the scene where Lisbon is stun gunned something A LOT of people missed occurs.

-Partridge is dead at Lisbon's feet. There WAS a person behind the door to Lisbon's left side .
Somebody was also behind Lisbon ! There was a window behind her and that is where she was zapped from and why she fell backwards.
-The was no way Lisbon could have been zapped from anywhere else because her back was to a wall with a window. We are looking at a two person job .
-Partridge was on the ground the door creeked and she looked to her left but the zap came from behind . Check it out again.

Side note: the next day Rigsby calls van pelt and says "last night was incredible " . Now we assume they mean sexually it was incredible but what if they were in that house together and killed partridge and zapped Lisbon?
It makes sense becuase why would red john not kill Lisbon for snooping around?
Also, Macalister was not there ! So he cannot be red john!!

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Lorelie martins is still alive!! Two points:

1: hard evidence - lorelie was shot in her left arm below her shoulder . She had a bandage on it when we last saw her alive. Then she left to go kill red john.
In the dvd she made she still had the bandage on her arm.
When we see her dead body however, her arm is uncovered and has not one little scratch on it !

2: metaphorical evidence - before the camera goes on her dead body you can see a poster of a "4 legged woman" and it says in big bold letters "ALIVE" !
Why would a poster of a 4 legged woman say alive ?
I believe the body was lorelie's sister who red john could of had on ice all these years.
He has done that before .

I make these points because the key to red john was that dvd. Something was very off about lorelies speech.
Making jane take out his list of 7 after she commended him from narrowing a list of thousands to a few names.
It seemed like the dvd was for Lisbon.

Other points:
Why was bertram told to tell jane the game is over right before Macalister says the same exact thing ?
More importantly , why was the game over ? After all these years red john decides right then at the church the game was over ? Jane was there for bertram? Weird.
Also as i said yesterday, patrick said it wasnt a game, i asked to play?
When did this happen? Janes family was murdered he didn't ask for anything !

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The mentalist is such a great show becuase it makes people swear that they know who red john is . Whether its me with gvp and rigsby, partridge people, kirkland fans etc we all swear we know or knew we were right .
Heller made it that way on purpose. Everyone is a suspect even patrick jane !

Back to linus wagner. I think people are on to something with him. I dont think he is red john but knows him very well. He coulda had his colleague tannen killed by a hitman when he was alone.
Instead wagner says he wanted to kill him and the girl to create diversion bc cops would be swarming his work otherwise? Umm the cops did swarm his place anyway right
Maybe this was a two man job.
Wagner gave red john the girl as wagner took care of tannen.
Maybe tannen knew something else that got him killed.
Tannen who was a plastic surgeon could have done work on red john and found his identity or something along those lines who knows.
It is very odd wagner killed a man with his bare hands becuase that man found out wagner was stealing money to feed African children. Even weirder that tomothy carter arived in the usa out of thin air in 2008 from africa as a missionary.

Also completely different clue:
When minelli makes that epic speach to the media when he calls the reporters questions horses assery, you can notice right after he speaks to lisbon that he then talks to craig olaughlin. It looks like craig and its only a split second where minelli looks his way then the camera goes onto olaughlin .
I have no idea why, just throwing it out there.

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WHO is walking behind Rebecca Anderson as she's being led down the hall by the guard?  Do we know who that redhaired woman is?







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