I used to be a strong believer that Jane was Red John but they are writing it to be impossible for him to be. The one thing I can't get passed though is when Jane has the hallucination of his daughter and she looked him in the face and said do they even know who you are and Jane has the sheepish guilty look on his face.

Jane is Red John, he sleeps at the CBI, and naps regularly. Its a "Fight Club" scenario, he obviously doesn't know about this alter ego. While in his night time "trance" or whatever at the CBI, he goes through files and solves them by deduction. He stealthily travels to the area in question and either contacts the murderer and turns them into desciples. When loreili said Jane had "shaken hands" or whatever with Red John, she meant the preverbial handshake as Jane had recently been living a darker lifestyle, he was Red John more than Jane. Crimson Hat begins with Jane in vegas, he had been ripping people off for lots of money, and was obviously an alcoholic. Lorilie knew him as Red John as first, but quickly realized she liked him as a good person as well. Which would explain why Lorilie seems to be in love with Jane, and vice versa.

I also suspect certain people on the suspect list are actually deciples giving Bruno Hellar an opportunity to save face since Jane isnt technically on the list. Probably the director has figured it out, as he got REALLY good a playing cards, after the strawberries and cream episode. How could he have gotten SO good at cards after getting to know "Jane" better? The director figured it out and knows only to talk to Jane/RedJohn at night whilst "jane" is in his trance and RedJohn/Jane tought him how to cheat. I suspect Christina Frye has also figured this out. It would explain why she would only talk to Jane as a "spirit" after Jane and lisbon find her. AND why she was left "alive" with no signs of torture.

The reason Red John asked for lisbons head in a box, its because he knows Jane wouldnt do it. If Red John is aware that without Janes team there would be no more fun and games, it would make sense that none of them have been killed, or even threatened. Speaking of team members, I think the FBI woman suspects this, her capability to read people and her instinct are rivaled only by Jane.

This would explain PERFECTLY the way Brett Styles' behaviour and respect of Jane. AND why he was in a postion to give Jane the address of Christina Frye, without fear of repercussions. It also explains why the writers couldnt elaborate on Bretts connection to RJ further.
Please tell me what you think guys! Im a huge fan and dont get to watch as much as I'd like. This is the best show on TV for a looong time and no matter who RJ turns out to be, i have a feeling I wont be let down.

Red John is     .......  Patrick Jane 


If it is not I'll be dam

And... ¿What if Red John is Patrick Jane?, it makes sense. Patrick was in all scenes, knows the victims. He killed his own family and in that moment suffered a multiple personality.

When PJ was a teenager, he was abused/raped.  This trauma created as teenager a self-defense personnalty: Red John, the bad PJ took over and put somewhere in the head the original PJ like a puppet.

Because guilty, culpability and the trauma with the kill of wife and child of PJ (which was the public RJ cover) it was to much for a young boy to manage with, the puppet/original PJ manage to create the nice PJ as we knew in the show as attempt to stop the bad PJ/RJ.

Jane and John - as in Jane Doe and John Doe. Like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, Red John is Jane's evil side, coming out in some sort of multiple personality psychosis. It explains how Red John is "in Jane's head."

Seriously, it went too far.
The whole concept seemed to be marvelous, but these days I feel dissapointed.

The whole list of 7. Smith? McAllister? Is this a joke?
Bertram? Partridge? The hidden IQ guys?
Season 5 introduces Kirkland who would be a great choice, but he is another crazy guy who wants to be like Red John or Jane, a huge fan who feels to have a special mission etc. (probably believes that Jane is RJ).
Haffner? I would feel strong dissapointment since he is another guy who was trolled by Jane. And Stiles.. 'the obvious Red John' who couldn't kill a fly to find out that he killed someone in the past. Stiles is important character, he knows RJ for sure.. but he is not RJ!

Season 6 concept... let's choose 7 guys who are going to be slowly eliminated by Red John,
and in the final Jane will be responsible for death of those 7. Probably, some information that Jane had were not truth, putted to mislead Jane.

If I had to choose 'a perfect Red John' i would say:
Lisbon (epic ending, but she was so exposed during the whole serie that it would be too hard to believe), Max Winter, Walter Mashburn, Kristina Frye, Rosalind.
I was thinking about Virgil but nah, exposed lately, same with Van Pelt.

I feel that the creators are more interested in 'let's make another season'
than bringing some interesting characters. Ok, they brought Kirkland, but isn't too late? That RJ shows for the first time in the 5th season? Come on!
Few characters like VP, Rigsby, Cho, Virgil, La Roche, Bertram ... shouldn't be that much exposed! I would not buy it that one of them is RJ!

I'm more than sure that whole Mentalist thing will end as a huge dissapointment.
Heller may say 'Jane is not RJ'.. blabla blabla. We all know that it is possible and some facts still put that character as the first possibility.