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Patrick Jane

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Even if I don't believe in it that much, I examined and manipulated Red John's voice while he was talking to Patrick Jane.

The result? Here in the video that I prepared:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_CK_90hei0


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I have no theory but I red an interview with Bruno Heller and he said we will be disapointed if we know who's Red John. So I guess it's Jane. :-(

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first of all, I remember the time when I was watching lost, after couple of episodes I got into it deeply but I said to myself " god, I hope they don't drop all dead like a cheap copy of 6th sense" eventually happened. On this I am not sure yet. I believe it's gonna be some1 suprising cuz if u paid attention it's been 5 seasons and yet u don't see personal life in enough details. I am starting to get suspicus about an alter ego that they are the same person ( fight club stuff :D )
mostly all u see is a start with a victim, then police interrogating without enough evidance then our hero makes some funny and cleaver conversations and tricks, traps etc. and ending with a confession. but in 45mins u see 2-3 minutes of personal life.

and umm there are some details that I really don't like in serie that I wanted to share:

* Medium girl, she said she was dead :D is she ? I believe everyone wonders that.
* Hightower was framed, she's saved and cleaned, why didn't see return back to her job ? isn't that awkward ? instead a 25 years old guy took control of CBI and then died in few seasons ? and not even replaced yet
* Cho was dating with a korean girl, suddenly she's dissapered from serie and he started to date with the blonde slut.
* Patrick character is inspired by Grigori Rasputin a little, very convincing and all those hypnoses etc, even a police unit can't solve any cases without him ? that's kinda odd, if he's that cleaver why can't he just get this john red guy ? then it wouldn't be a serie huh ? :D
* every episode name is obsessed with RED episode name, but yet the main object is very limited, u don't actually have enough exciting red john episodes... on an episode ending u get some clues about red john, and couple of full episodes on mid-season or season finals... u get this feeling "ohh man next week it's gonna be awesome I can't miss" then it continues irrelevant and it's disappointing. it's kinda repeating itself, for 5 seasons same opening a victim got killed by a gun or hard object to head. as of yesterday it's been 95 episodes and 80 are same, same tricks etc it's kinda getting boring but yet there are still awesome funny dialogues and stuff that I find very original and creative.
* if u ever watched "24" Jack Bauer character saved the world thousands of times, stops all terrorist attacks saved presidents yet he had to came out from setups and had to prove his innocence for 8 seasons :D u get what mean ? this serie is going what way...

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My view is that RJ serial killer does not exist.I think PJ's wife took her own life after first killing the child. This would explain what Kristina Frye told PJ about his daughter not suffering. Her mother would have taken care not to hurt her. The note that PJ found on the door was a suicide note. The deaths caused him to have a breakdown and he created the Red John persona in his mind to take the blame for what happened as his wife was obviously ill and he didn't see it. He is now trying to find redemption by using his talents to help the police. Every time we see a smiley face (resembles P.J.'s face), it corresponds not to an RJ murder but to a death for which PJ somehow feels indirectly (if not directly) responsible/guilty. Eg. Jared Renfrew could have been murdered by anybody but would still be alive if PJ had not had him released from jail. Rosalind Harker is not dead but the smiley face represents PJ's guilt as he treated women the way Rosalind was treated. He didn't manage to use his skills to read Rebecca who obviously worked in the building with them and prevent Bosco's murder, so feels guilty. Same thing for murders committed before his family's death. PJ. feels in some way responsible. PJ. killed Panzer to stop him killing again and prefers to deal with it in his head by blaming RJ. Now his dark side/RJ persona is starting to take over his life. The more things go wrong, the more he blames RJ. The Tiger Tiger poem represents the struggle between his light and dark sides. Which side will win out in the end? This theory does not obviously explain everything but would explain certain holes in the procedure as certain things are happening in PJ's head and not in reality.

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Personally I believe the original Red John could be dead. I
believe Patrick Jane killed the real Red John years ago and now either is aware
that he is Red John because he was sent truly insane by his wife and child’s
murder or that he has created the alter-ego so that he has something to live
for; the pursuit of revenge. I don’t think either idea is outlandish or
far-fetched given the subject matter of Jane’s abilities to anticipate and
manipulate human behaviour.



Also, whether
Jane being Red John is believable or not to people, how can we account for Red
John’s obsession with Jane? Before Jane’s family was murdered Red John was a
notorious and prolific killer, since then his murders are few and far between,
and most of them surround Jane’s life or people who are getting too close to
his identity. Red John, since Jane’s wife and child were killed, has not acted
like a serial killer; more like someone with a different agenda entirely. His
whole world seems to revolve around Patrick Jane and vice versa. Why is this? Before
Red John killed his family Jane was basically a con man and had no real
discernible history that would make Red John think he was the ultimate
‘opponent’ so why would Red John dedicate himself to Jane’s misery so devoutly?
If it is to test himself, then he has proved time and again that he is elusive
to Jane and CBI so what does he have left to prove? The semantics of Jane being
Red John may be convoluted but the motives of Red John fit only with the idea
that he is Jane himself, in my humble opinion.

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Watch this video and let me know what you all think about it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUikVzxQuuY

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Patrick Jane is defiantly not red John because if you watch the behind the scenes part of the DVD for either season 1 or season 2 of the mentalist (I can't remember) there is an interview with Bruno Heller saying that they're not going to turn around and say "hey Patrick Jane is actually red john". So it can't be Patrick.

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