Hey everybody 

Lets now just think logically, we know that Partridge and Bob Kirkland are dead so they are out.
Brett Stiles and Gael Bertrum are too high profile to go to Sophie Miller with a fake name, so they are out too.
Three are left which are Smith, Haffner and McAllister.
Reede Smith is one of the tyger tyger also he doesn't fit the description and when he killed Bob Kirkland he didn't kill him with rj's move so I think he is also out.
Now two are left. We all know that there is sth suspicious about McAllister what I think he is with the tyger tyger group but what is strange is that the "young man" looks really like him and also like haffner because he has the same color of haffner's eyes.
Haffner on the other side we dont know a lot about him, only that he calls Lisbon by her first name and thats what rj does also he is a member of visualize and I guess he was at the barn when it all started.

So I would go with haffner IF rj was on the list.

Another thing that Bob Kirkland appears on episode 8 that would be his twin i ont think that these are flashbacks and it also would explain why he would ask Lennon who was in the hospital if he knew him then kill him, he is with rj.

One last theory is about why they (red john associates assuming partridge was with them) say tyger tyger when they die my opinion is that they are hypnotized by rj, like why would someone say tyger tyger when they are dying?! Only if he was hypnotized.
Thats what I think 

And Peace  

To all the people pointing out that the actor that plays Kirkland will be in episode 8.... has anyone considered he could purely be there is flashback scenes?

If it is the big reveal episode that many suspect, there will need to be flashbacks to tie up many of the loose ends.

I also personally suspect Haffner on list, primarily because I don't trust him and his relationship with Lisbon.

Off list I go for Mashburn, for exactly the same reasons.

Ray Raffner is Red John because he is precise in everything he does, including his forelock.

Well , first of all , i am very disappointed with the new episode and even with the whole season 6 so far  . And here is why :

1.I know it's nothing revealed yet , but it would suck so fucking hard if Red John are several persons and not a SINGLE character (as we all wanted him to be) .

2.Tiger Tiger organization ? you must be fuckin kidding me Heller. Red John CAN NOT BE in a group with these idiots and clowns . They killed this arch . It was supposed to be about RJ and Patrick Jane , not about some corrupted law clowns . Was it so hard to keep it simply between Jane and RJ? About Jane's revenge , about all the clues that we found in the previous seasons and now they seem so useless . What is Reede Smith doing on this list ? When he doesn't even fit in the god damn description of Harker . Or McAllister ? We saw him just one time in 5 seasons and now he is on the list . The list makes no sense .

3. Before season 4, they told us that RJ apperaed before . Then what are Ray , Bob and Smith doing in this list ? Again nonsense .

4.There is no need to kill the suspects from the list . What's the point ? Why was Partridge killed ? or Heller thinks it's more intriguing ? I would say it's more intriguing with 7 names , not 5 . Never liked the ideea of eliminating suspects.

5. Heller said we will be disappointed when RJ will be revelead . Well i guess he is doing a great job . Tyger Tyger organization lol .

The only viable suspect seems to be Haffner , as he fits the description of Harker and most of the clues . But again , Haffner won't be a perfect Red John .

Just click green and comment if you think Heller is ruining our show !

I have reviewed footage where Rebecca was killed. In that scene we can see a man in uniform from behind walking toward Rebecca. His torso is visible except for the head. Moments after he apply poison on Rebecca's hand there is a head shot from behind.. Only two frames. I analyzed this head shot from behind and his torso and posture and compared it with all suspects, and come to the conclusion..

If the person who kills Rebecca is red John, then this person is Raymond Haffner :-( 

Not the red John I thought would be.

I think Red John is a completely different issue from the Tyger, Tyger issue. Tyger, Tyger is most likely, what it was stated to be, some secret organization of law enforcement. Red John may or may not be a member since all the people on the list except Brett Stiles are some form of law enforcement. Partridge was probably involved with Tyger Tyger and said these words to Lisbon thinking she was
(Or IS) a member. Why would he think this? Remember the poker game she was invited to start playing in with all of those high level law enforcement people?? My theory is this was the first step to being invited into the organization. A sort of "trial run" to see if they wanted to formally invite her in. Because those poker games made no sense otherwise until now. What we don't know is was she invited in? I think Tyger Tyger is something, that if the show survives to see another season ( here's hoping it does!) will be the next storyline to follow.
Who do I think Red John is? If I have to guess I'd say Ray Haffner, but that is just a guess.

List is down to 5. After shooting, Reede Smith didn't draw any smilie. Not RJ's MO. So list is down to 4?. McAllister proved himself having no acrophobia. So list now down to 3?. in Episode 2 or 3, Bertram, Reede Smith and McAllister sits in a Room and asks each other "The Question is, How much does he(jane)know". This gives a hint that they all share the same Status in relation with RJ. If one of them is not RJ, none of them is. List is now down to 2. Ray Haffner or Brett Stiles. Yet to see Stiles in this Season, But it would be a cliché if BS is RJ.


Murder can be a business. And Ray Haffner is the one who started his own Agency. He Likes Lisbon. And RJ did not kill her. Could be him. At least he has handsome face, that misdirects suspicion. And tall enough  to fit to silhouette of RJ's Visualizations in Past.