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Thomas McAllister
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Ok people .I have been reading your theories since 3-4 months now.I am going to comment for the first time if I do not get lazy again

Firstly when I found this website.I got angry because I thought it will take away the shock value of the series.Everyone I could think of and not think of were here .Including patrick (Which i think is ridiculous )But then all the main  purpose of these movies,tv series etc is not to give shock but bring forth involvement in people in otherwise mundane life.Trust me we got more involvement through this rather than getting to know about red john in one shot.May be it would have been shocking but the total amount of mental game and involvement we went through would not have been same

now I go to my theory

Until now I thought .If its a correct list ,Bruno tried to become over smart by revealing the list of redjohn suspects one season before.Suddenly it occurred to me what if its a ultimate master manipulation played by legendary jane. You see we have two scenarios

1. List if wrong .Those who believe in this scenario will assume that red john is definitely not among these 7 people now . Jane have no idea about red john or maybe even know and he is laying some trap to reveal him

2.List if right :Those who believe this scenario will assume that Jane does not exactly know who he is . Thats why he has a list not a suspect.

But what if patrick exactly knows about red john .That red john is there in list and he has developed a fake list around for some deeper plan ??This will beat both the scenarois .What if he knows about red john since long back (Maybe season 5 start ).This has been the modus operandi of the show.Patrick finds  out about the suspect in some what middle of show and lay some master plan to to reveal him in the end.Every one thinks he is complacent but he is more aware then anyone

What if he knows about him and is not killing him directly for some reason.What if he does not want to kill him now.That would be too less a punishment for red john.He wants to raise all his philosophies,cult ,followers to ground .He wants to show red john who he has messed up this time For that he has layed a ultimate master plan which he has set after meeting lorelei  .List is a part of that plan .What if everything from season  5 start is being carefully crafted by jane .All this breaking into jane's room,lisbon kidnapping ,lorelie video ,list are a part of carefully crafted plan.What if bret patridge is actually a friend of jane .He used him in lisbon's kidnapping .Thats why she was not killed .I might br wrong about this one .People are thinking that this blast in season 6 was by jane .Yes it was a part of a plan but plan  which has not started from season 6  but from long back.

 

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Red Herrings..
I have watched a lot of crime tv series and trust me, the most important persons are 99% portrayed and showed to the viewers in the first season. There is just no guarantee that the show is not going to be cancelled. Look at FlashForward, great show but they had to let the viewers to see the bad guy at least once. Boom sadly show got cancelled. At least we knew who did it.

Let's not get too much excited to the Red Herrings(uhum Ray Hafner and that little ghoul) in the show, just like there were a lot of red herrings in every episode of Scooby Doo.
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Let's think logical..
There were two suspects of today's list in the first season, or I can rather say in the first two episodes.

Brett Partridge and Sheriff Thomas McAllister. One is probably dead killed by the other.
Brett Partridge even said TygerTyger to Teresa, probably because Sheriff Thomas McAllister said it to Brett before he got killed just like in the season 2 finale. And now we have made the connection to the three dots.

The one thing that really caught my eye were his SHOES. He has those classy shoes I saw in the season 2 final.
In episode 3 he even said to Patrick in the woods he likes to hunt 'faces' and he even called Patrick with his cell phone and started "Hey Patrick" with that soft old voice this time without a voice changer.
As they say in the game Phoenix Wright...

TAKE THAT

Sheriff Thomas McAllister is Red John.

I rest my case.


PS: a funny thing if you type Partridge in wikipedia you will see an explanation about a bird who avoids high places. lol


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I have always believed that the masked man at the season 2 finale was red john. However, according one of Bruno Heller's recent interviews, he stated that the character himself didn't even know he was red john prior to the shooting of the "Red John" episode. So my question is, how can the real red john be at the season 2 finale if he didn't even he was red john? If everyone still recall, the masked man at the season 2 finale was quite tall and had pretty skinny and long legs(watch when he was walking towards Jane). If that man is indeed red john, then we can pretty much eliminate Reede Smith and Bob Kirkland since they both have pretty chubby legs. But after hearing what Heller just said, that masked man may not be red john, which means that anyone on or not on the list can be red john. I can't be sure who red john is, but I have a hunch that its going to be Sheriff McAllister. I personally cannot wait for the reveal of red john!

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So I was looking at the votes on the suspects tab on this website.  Guess who's number one...

Sheriff McAllister!!!

Partridge is a close second, but the ratio of theories to votes is interesting.

Sheriff has 335 theories to his 629 votes.  Partridge has 996 theories to his 584 votes.

It's like the top two suspects ratios are reversals of each other.  Anyone care to guess what the reason for this is?

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Re-watched Patrick on the talk show where he first describes RJ (previous to his family's murders). He describes him as:

Sadistic, demonic, evil, a  cold dark flame, an ugly tormented loner. Sad,
very sad. An ordinary looking man in his mid-thirties with
thinning brown hair medium height. A showman artist with strong sense of
theatre. But methodical, tidy. He keeps himself very clean. He has a small
speech impediment that he’s ashamed, works in a clerical job,  and lives w/ mother sister single story blue
house w/citrus tree in the front, a lemon tree.

I think it will be interesting to see how much of his original, albeit falsely psychic, description holds up.

My first choice for was Minnelli and I do think he will show up tomorrow night as the person from season two in whom Lisbon misplaces her trust. I also think the newlyweds (at least one) will die in episode seven.

Assuming the list is true, I hope for McCallister. Did anyone notice when PJ called to enlist his 'help', he sighed, almost rolled his eyes. Maybe it was simply because he was interrupted while hunting, but maybe it was b/c he's growing weary of the game with Patrick and frustrated that he's not figuring it out. To me, it seems like he has more of a relationship with PJ than the others. Excepting Stiles. If it is Partridge, I'd be okay with it.

Here's to tomorrow night! Have fun, everyone. Enjoy!









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The last couple of episodes have given a lot of clues and I think it’s really obvious who RJ is now.

If RJ was the one to kill the private detective, then RJ has to be either Smith, Bertram or McAllister. Another member of Tyger Tyger could have done it, but RJ has been confirmed by Bruno Heller that it is someone on the list so if RJ was the one to kill Kira, then he has to be either one of those three.



It's not Smith for obvious build issues. It's been made very clear throughout the entire series that RJ is not overweight.
It could be Bertram, but how could it be? It's more likely that he's just a member of Tyger Tyger and leaks information to RJ. As Smith said when Jane walks in on their little meeting, it's his job to know what's going on. Yes as some people have said, Bertram could be mole within Tyger Tyger, and reports to some high up power about the going-ons between RJ and PJ, but it seems really unlikely. Either way he cannot be RJ. He's either a Tyger Tyger mole or more likely, just a Tyger Tyger member and an informant to RJ.

That leaves McAllister. He has a fear of heights and he fits the basic description of RJ given over the series. If RJ indeed has the tattoo, it's McAllister, it has to be. Unless Bertram is making phone calls to himself and Smith is constantly wearing a fat suit, it logically cannot be them. 


But the question really is, would RJ have a Tyger Tyger tattoo? Would it be a risk or would having it allow anonymity amongst the organisation which follows him? If RJ does not have the tattoo, it leaves Haffner, Kirkland, Stiles and Partridge.


Firstly, it cannot be Kirkland. Nor his twin brother. I have seen a lot of theories relating to Michael being RJ and some elaborate switch over, but it seems a little too elaborate but to me it seems really obvious it’s not. The reason why Bob was asking if the RJ associate last season had seen his face was not because he is RJ and wanted to remain anonymous (RJ wouldn’t be that sloppy) but to see if he knew his twin brother and anything about him. And then killed him because he didn’t. Then he went on a murderous rampage and killed the fake list of seven, to kill the man who ruined his brother. Then he dies at the hands of Smith, a member of Tyger Tyger and that’s the end of that, end of storyline.



So that leaves Haffner, Stiles and Partridge. 


Regarding Partridge, the actor and producers have confirmed he’s really dead. They could be lying as saying “no, he’s alive!” is a major spoiler and would ruin the fun, but if he is still alive, don’t you think it would ring massive alarm bells if his body disappeared? It can’t be him. 



It could be Stiles. Even though he is supposedly on his deathbed, there is no reason why it couldn't be him. As with Haffner, there is a lot of evidence it is him, he fits Rosalind's description, the whistling, the fear of spiders, and Ray Haffner disappearing at the same time as she was killed and coming in moments after the nurse stakes out the room Teresa is in? It's like they want us to think it's him, but it still could be.

It's either Stiles, Haffner or McAllister.

But it's the massive clue at the end of the first episode which solves it. 
Partridge saying Tyger Tyger.
The person who killed him has the tattoo, that’s why he said it, to try and identify him. It’s just that neither Teresa or PJ understood what he was implying. 



Red John is Thomas McAllister.

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out of the 7 i hope its mcallister there is something about him that i find intriguing but i don't think it will be any of them, i think bruno heller lied to keep us guessing then bam no body saw it coming i hope it actual ends up being someone like kristina fry and her mental state is just an act

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