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When the nurse came in and asked for 'Carmen Lee' it triggered something in Jane's head to think of Sophie Miller. I worked out what it was. In the Season 2 episode "Scarlet Letter" the psychiatrist and therapist of CBI makes his first appearance , his name is Roy Carmen. Roy being Red John's primary alias and Carmen being the name called out in the hospital. In the episode Red Badge, Dr Roy Carmen is turns out to be a killer. I am not saying this guy is Red John, but now i see why the name "Carmen" linked Jane to his own psychiatrist. This may come into this season but it might not, just thought id put that out there for people wondering why Jane made the connection.

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I have been watching religiously The Mentalist from the very beginning.
I have watched re-runs, watched the episodes again and again trying
to find clues.
And what I really loved about this show is that despite the brilliance of
Heller in developing each case the CBI had, he always managed to keep it
simple. Everyday people becoming murderers, hidden in plain sight.
But in Season 6, not so much....I mean what the hell?....A cabal of law
enforcement officials from different agencies, from the copy guy to the directors?
Committing murders and getting away with it, or cover up murders? Come on, give us a break...
Whether this league is related to RJ, the whole thing is preposterous...
and so unreal!!
And what about this "tiger-tiger" phrase? Are they all somehow hypnotized and this
phrase is the trigger?
 
After watching episode 4, I totaly lost my interest in finding out RJ's identity.
For all I care, it might as well be me...
I will keep watching the show, just to see how far it will go, but honestly I think we are
in for a big surprise..and not the good kind..
After all Heller said that we will be disappointed when RJ is revealed, he just did not
warn us how disappointed..

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First, the defining thing, I forgot which episode it was but Red John killed Jane's childhood friend. How could someone find Jane's happiest memory and kill it? This person must have been with Jane in his childhood. Who could it be? His father.

Second, motivation. Jane was considered a traitor to his father when escaping with his wife. 

Third, Red John doesn't want Jane to die. Besides the fun of the catch game, reasons could be a) Jane could be of use, but it seems like Red John is always beyond Jane, why need him? b) Red John loves Jane. So, his father.

but something can't be explained: Red John also killed Jane's kid, that would be his grandchild if Jane's father is Red John. Is he so cold-blooded? maybe, since he abused Jane in the past.

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Ok, not a Red John theory, just a thought that seems more accurate about Michael Kirkland that some people just seem to ignore, if you think there's something off on my thought let me know please, thanks!

Michael seems to be dead, there is no way we've seen him on the show. (it's reeeeally unlikely, not impossible)

Robert Kirkland has been searching for his brother for a long time, right?
He is a Homeland Security agent, that means, he stalks and get information about anyone he wants, just like he did with Jane.

Not put the pieces together, I hope you get my point, I mean, if someone else (Michael in case) was using his name to get access to the hospital and other things, there is no way he wouldn't know it.
And therefore there is no way he wouldn't go after Michael, his vendetta is all about his brother, so...unless he was lying about something, which I find truly stupid, since his vendetta would be completely pointless.
That's why I say: there is no way we've seen Michael on the show. If indeed that was Michael at some point, then, that seems a big script failure for me, just saying.
I think Heller put this twin thing just to twist our minds and it's working (again).

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You know, with his whole "Tyger Tyger" organization that has been shown around this season. I think that Tommy Volker was involved in this organization. He was very powerful, and he had powerful political connections. Maybe that's why Kirkland told Lisbon to stop her investigation with Volker, because Homeland Security already suspected this secret organization.
Maybe Volker could provide some info for Jane and Lisbon about RJ during this season

What do you think?


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To get right to it, I believe Michael Kirkland, Bob Kirkland's twin brother is Red John. In episode 4 of this season Bob reveals that he had a twin brother who he believes was killed by Red John. However, if you listen carefully Bob says he only believes Red John killed his brother, but in fact he doesn't know if Michael is dead or not.

Bob explains to Patrick that Michael was a drinker and nothing he did ever helped his brother recover until he met someone that saved him. Bob believes this person was Red John but I believe this person was in fact Bret Stiles.

In an earlier season Bret admits that he knows Red John and that in fact Red John was one of his followers. I believe Bret Stiles saved Michael Kirkland from his alcoholism and helped Michael to discover his true self as Red John.

A few other facts that could support this theory are that Michael is Bob's twin so Red John could easily pass off as his well connected brother Bob. Additionally, if Red John is truly a twin to Bob Kirkland then any time we saw Bob and Patrick together we could have actually been seeing Red John and Patrick meeting. 

Another supporting fact is that Bob is a very smart, calculating, and detail oriented individual which stands to reason that his twin would be very much the same. We know for a fact that Red John is calculating, smart and pays close attention to the details. 

Furthermore, Michael and Bob Kirkland came from a broken family with an abusive father and a mother who couldn't or wouldn't protect them because she was being abused as well. This could easily explain why Bob Kirkland had a thirst for violence and torture so a twin brother would likely be very much the same. 

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I'd simply like to share that my theory looks more and more likely every episode:
I posted this on this site 5 months ago
Red john is not in the 7, however, bertram and haffner are both linked to him directly which explains his fbi and cbi connections, and that is how they got wainright into that limo at red johns request. I believe the sheriff and partridge have nothing to do with RJ. I think stiles knows exactly who RJ is and genuinely worries about jane but also doesnt want jane to find him bc of the implications on visualize. Reede smith is a pawn of RJ. I believe the story will shake out that someone who is very connected to the highest powers in the fbi will be rj as we have already seen a lot of rj connecti ok ns to fbi personnel and their adamance in taking lorelie

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