All I can say after the last episode is I am so confused!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now I understand what Bruno Heller means by we will be disappointed because I will be disappointed if red john is a group and not one individual.

Also, after learning that Bob Kirkland was out for his own revenge I am really sad he died :(

After the episode "Red Listed", a group of shadowy police figures were confirmed. They all use the phrase "Tiger Tiger" as a sort of password. I think that Red John is not a single person. But an alias used by multiple people within the organization. For sure Bertram,McAllister, and Smith are part of this group . This group might have ties with Visualize so Stiles and Haffner may also use the Red John alias . Also the last thing Brett Partridge said before he died was "Tiger Tiger", so he might be a part of the group also, and was killed off by one of the other members.

In conclusion, I think Red John is everybody on Jane's suspect list EXCEPT Robert Kirkland.

Heller did a great job at making people believe Kirkland (and Partridge) was Red John (or a friend of his), I'll give him that.


My take (short version);

I'm talking about the man doing the killing. If it is the same person killing all those people then in my mind it's Ray Haffner. I just can't see the others on the list doing the killing, being the person who thrashed
Rosalind (blind woman) and at the same time being the person with good posture/excellent whistler who met Jane's shrink.

McAllister, Bertrum & Smith are merely parts (pawns) of the super secret best friends club. Inside info, keep an eye on Jane, etc

Styles is a codger who probably knows Red John (possibly funds RJ's shennanigans if needed) and the other suspects (some, maybe not all).

The soft voice of Red John is what always throws me. It must be technologically altered somehow because none of these guys sound like RJ whenever his voice is heard.

If it is one of those 7 (now down to 5) then it's Ray Haffner. I'm still expecting to find out that RJ is none of these guys at all. Feel free to disagree. A lot of fantastic arguments on this site.

So here's a thought...what if Red John is Michael Kirkland, Bob Kirkland's twin brother?

Bob hesitated when Patrick asked him if Red John killed his brother and answered in a way that seemed very much 'he killed the brother I knew, he's as good as dead, etc.". His body was never found and he was never heard from.

The Kirkland brothers had a rough and abusive childhood, which clearly manifested in some psychosis on the part of Bob and caused his brother to spiral downward.

Patrick could have shaken his hand at any point thinking he was speaking to Bob - it would be easy for Michael to accomplish this as a twin and with the manipulating skills we know Red John to possess.

Also, this would add some wow factor the the big reveal, as he is not on the list of suspects that we have left, but only because Patrick may not be aware that he encountered the twin, rather than Bob.

Thoughts? 

I think the key to the Red John mystery was revealed in this episode. Kirkland mentions how both he and his twin brother were abused by his father. Jane remarks that Bob must have been the stronger of the two. If Bob was stronger than Michael I could only imagine how psychologically damaged he is. Bob says that his brother grew distant from him as he found someone, who he thinks was Red John, who understood him. I think that the person that he actually met was Brett Stiles and the Visualize cult. Visualize would require someone to distance themselves from their families. The visualize group would show the kind of love to a deeply damaged young man who was abused by his alcoholic mother. It also goes along with the clue that Red John's first kills were on the farm owned by Visualize.

If that theory doesn't hold true, the next best guess I have is that Red John is not one singular person but rather a network of people. This network is more than likely the "tiger, tiger" group. This would explain why so many people suspected of being or knowing something about Red John always drops the "tiger tiger" line when they die. If the organization covers things up for other members and is full of corrupt law enforcement officials then it would make sense as to why there are so many different suspects throughout the series and why no real headway has ever been made in the case. If this proves to be true I think that in the reveal episode this truth would be revealed and the member of the "tiger, tiger" club is the one who killed Jane's family, and then the rest if the series will be dedicated to exposing the rest of these members.

Well, i have finished watching the last episode, se6ep4, then
decided to share my thoughts with you.

So,
let's start. 

Brett
Patridge is dead, and so Bob does, he is also dead. Now, there are 5 suspects
in the list: Bertram, Stiles, Sheriff, Ray Haffner and agent Smith.

I do
not want to find RJ according to Harker's or Miller's words, because Patrick
knows how RJ is foxy guy, that's why Patrick tries to find with his own clues. 

Now,
"Tyger, Tyger"
poem. Agent Smith knows what's that poem indicates, it means, Tyger Tyger
organization could belong to RJ and agent Smith is a member of this
organization. If it is so, then RJ could not be Bertram and Sheriff. Why?
Because, when Bertram, Smith and Sheriff was talking in Bertram's office, after
Patrick left the room, smith asked how much Jane knows about RJ and told to
Bertram that to know how Jane is close is Bertram's duty. It means that,
Bertram is also not Rj. In that case, Sheriff also did not say anything, if
Sheriff is RJ, he could order to Bertram to know more, but he did not, so he is
also not RJ.

Now,
Patrick thinks that, RJ has a person in CBI and FBI, and I wanna tell to people
who think that CBI RON is RJ are wrong, cos, RJ does not work like that. He has
Bertram in CBI and no need to work in CBI for RJ, i think Bruno and his team
are again misleading us. And this is also for Ray Haffner. If Bertram is an
accomplice or helper of RJ, how Ray (if you think he is RJ) could work under
bertram's guidance in CBI? maybe they are playing a role, you think, but I do
not think RJ does such funny things....

So,
now only Brett Stiles left. But, I do not say anything about him, i mean I do
not say he is RJ. 

IMHO,
as I told before in #5638 and #6280, Patrick has already known the RJ... 

I
would like to say Bruno thanks for his high-level mind game....

any
comments or mistake?

I HAVE SIMPLE IDEA TO FIND OUT WHO IS RED JOHN !


Someone who is skilled mentalist (for example Derren Brown; or better, someone who is anonymous) should interview Bruno Heller and try to find out who is Red John.

It is important that Bruno Heller doesnt know what is going on.

In that situation, skilled mentalist will use tricks and manipulation to Heller to reveal all about Red John mistery.