I cannot believe that none of you have realized who Red John is!!! I always knew it would be someone we least suspected and NOW all the pieces have come together. RJ must have money, RJ must have influence, RJ must have a creepy hideout, RJ must be heartless, and RJ must have a boat. Haven't you guys noticed that Elise Vogelson has all of these qualities??? She is cunning and a cold hearted person. Yeah, yeah, I know there is someone out there right now who thinks I am crazy - but just wait and see - you haven't seen the last of "the songbird"!!!!