Who is Red John?

Theory #9591 • by Gaelle

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Ray Haffner

Ray Haffner
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Please read these point of what we think we know of RJ and let me know what you think of my Likely/Unlikely of each item...Spoilers all seem to point to Gale, but I'm just not sold...

Red John
has short straight hair (as described by Rosalind Harker)(assuming their
current hair)


Likeliest
- Partridge, Haffner


Sort-of - Kirkland,
Reed (though Kirk is sort of fluffy styled and Reeds is more buzzed)


Not Likely
- McAllister (curly-ish), Gale (bald), Stiles (spikey)

 


RJ Has
good Posture



Likeliest
- Haffner


Sort-of -
Everyone else but Stiles


Not Likely
- Stiles

 



Worked at
Visualize Farm



Likeliest
- McAllister or Partridge ( most likely that this could be in their past without
someone knowing or could has gaps in their history that would be acceptable
from prying eyes)


Sort-of -
Kirkland (his self-told backstory allows this for him or his brother but as a
Homeland agent seems unlikely it wouldnt be traceable). Haffner (is in
vizualize, age appropriate, could have a fuzzy resume 20yrs back)


Not Likely
- Bertram, Stiles, Smith (all have positions or notoriety that would seem to
have a history that would have acceptable gaps in it or would indicate they
were working at a farm at a time when they would have to be building their
current career).



Charismatic
in regard to woman being fascinated


Likeliest
- Haffner (probably most universally attractive of the 7)


Not Likely
- Bertram and Stile (not attractive), 
Partridge and Kirkland (Probably awkward looking to women though
Kirkland may be a type that women like), Smith (fugly), McAllister (hes my
sort-of here, as he could be a type and considered masculine/handsome by some).




Charismatic
in regard to people following him


Likeliest
- Stiles


Not Likely
- The rest (none show this attribute, especially Gale Bertram as he actually
has moments where he is meant to be charismatic or appealing ..press
conferences..and he does OK at it but not phenomenal).



Someone pointed out: "I wonder why
the two of you didn't become lifelong friends
the moment you shook hands."  To me this implies they shook hands
long time ago




Likeliest-
Hafner and Kirkland and McAllister (They both seem as if PJ could have met them
20 yrs ago..except McAllister... at a carnival or something as teens and look a
lot different to PJ now. McAllister could have crossed paths with PJ years ago
without mustache etc... He also seems to have quite a familiarity to PJ in how
he interacts with him, suggesting a lengthier familiarity/comfort than we see
on the show )


Sort-of -
Reed (maybe he didn't weigh 800 pounds many years ago)


Not Likely
- Bertram/Stiles (No way PJ doesn't also consider the "shook hands a long
time ago" idea and realize that Gale and Stiles would likely not be so
dramatically different physically from a recognizability standpoint than 20 or
30 years ago)
 
Actor
remarks in TV guide "Last thing I ever expected." This is all on me,
but I assume this to be a less known less worked actor and someone who has not
been as active on the show or as "obvious" a choice.


Likely -
Haffner and Kirkland (not well known, joined show late, and really appears
written as a red herring after thought. Kirkland also drops to the unlikely
list, as he sounds creepy like C.Walken and therefore might not be a surprise
that he is a villain). Partridge (was killed off, not well known actor).  Reed Smith (the unlikeliest on everyone's
list)


Unlikely -
Bertram and Stiles (McDowell is a great actor and around forever with many
iconic roles, seems an unlikely statement unless being humble. The actor who plays
Bertram has been around forever and has a few well recognized roles elsewhere).



PJ in TV
Guide interview "where they could be alone"...to kill RJ..and from TV
guide "his character, one of the seven."


Likely -
Any single one of the 7 (including Bob/Mike Kirkland) on the list except
Partridge. I like the idea of Brett being RJ and being killed by the Tyger
Tyger, but that is now unlikely. We know he's dead. Kirkland may have faked his
death or one of the Kirklands is dead and one is alive.


Unlikely -
Partridge (obviously), The idea of Red John as a group of many ("where
they could be alone" implies PJ and one other)

 



Also TV
Guide spoilers may not be that at all. They could be from a dream someone has
in the next episode, or anything else. I'd like to think the stills/photos
approved for TV Guide would not be signed-off on if they revealed anything
other than mis-direction.


I still
have no idea who I really think is RJ but the actors I can most see PJ
straddling and looking into the eyes of before killing him is in order


Haffner


McAllister


Stiles
  really don't think it is Stiles, but could you imagine that scene...whoa.




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