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Thomas McAllister

Thomas McAllister
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RJ's characteristics in total...simply do not match up, and I've long though RJ was two different people [or many].

RJ No. 1 is refined, loves Bach, wears fine suits, sips tea the right way, appreciates beauty and women [Harker, Lorelei] is clearly educated, clever, manipulative, with extensive knowledge of many things, including surveillance, as well as hypnosis.  This RJ is persuasive, and as such must be a lover to have such a devoted female following, but he is also a power hungry egomaniac psychopath who believes he is a god amongst others.  However, I doubt this RJ would get his hands too dirty.  He has minions, for this RJ is the MIND, the CREATOR, the ARCHITECT...

RJ No. 2 is not refined, and has the ability to kill in a way that would make anyone else sick.  This is the small time worker, though someone on a power trip, too, albeit on a lower lever.  He has the ability enough to carry out his deeds with his own hands, and knows very well what it is he specifically knows, but is not broadminded enough to resist being manipulated by someone smarter.  This is someone, who under the right influence [or hypnosis] could be manipulated to do to people what he has long done to animals.  This is the HUNTER, the WORKER, the STOOL PIGEON...

So, did Patrick Jane fulfill his mission and kill the man who killed his family?  

I THINK YES.  I think McAllister was the man who did that deed, physically, and as such, it was appropriate for Season Six, ep. 8 to have happened [even if I still don't like the WAY it happened]

McAllister was RJ No. 2

THIS IS THE ONLY WAY SEASON SIX CAN BE EXPLAINED as having been LEGIT and would make sense for why things were so confusing....Jane knew that McAllister was the one, but also that he was RJ No. 1's decoy

RJ No. 1 sent McAllister to kill Jane and frame Bertram because HE KNEW Jane would be ahead of McAllister.  RJ knew he could count on Jane to get rid of McAllister for him in the name of revenge.  And in RJ's sick, warped mind, he probably thought that he was giving Jane a gift, an emotional catharsis, handing over to 
Jane the man who killed his family. 

ANOTHER STOOL PIGEON:  HAIBACH -- it was RJ who killed LaRoche and Ardiles, just like he killed Wainwright and Bosco...
NO WAY small timer Haibach masterminded an elaborate surveillance plot....RJ was using Haibach to try and take out Grace and Wayne...

SO......Jane is still hunting, waiting patiently and playing the game...because...

The question that remains:  WHO IS RED JOHN No. 1....?

BRET STILES
RAY HAFFNER
MICHAEL KIRKLAND
KRISTINA FRYE
CBI RON
VIRGIL MINELLI
WALTER MASHBURN
GRACE VAN PELT






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What annoys me about Thomas McAllister being red john is that the same actor (Xander Berkeley) acted as a character with a secret organisation already in nikita. 

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I tried to defend this show and what bruno heller was doing but I just cant anymore. Ive got no faith left whatsoever in this tv show and the red john storyline. Heller had planned everything up until timothy carter, but due to high ratings and the show being renewed, he had to invent that timothy carter was not actually the real red john. From that point on heller had no idea what he was doing, all his clues of the past made no sense and he was just trying to extend the story for the money. When finally there had been enough waiting he had to decide who red john was, he had no idea so he just picked a random guy who made no sense whatsoever, but heller didnt care, he just wanted the red john story to be over because he had no clue what else to do.

Heller is already doing his new tv show gotham and doesnt give two shits about the mentalist. He is just milking its last moments with the jisbon storyline because he knows he has a big audience in there.

Dont expect red john in 13 episodes of season 7. It will most likely revolve around jane and lisbon and weekly cases thats it. Heller wants to end this so he can concentrate on gotham, he doesnt care about the fans or the story, leaving the red john thing without any answers. Well ofc there are no answers, because he had no clue what he was doing. How is he gonna provide answers if he made up everything even if it didnt make sense. Fuck heller

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Dear diary,

Today was a really great day. After spending 10 hours fulfilling my duties as local sheriff, I went out and used my ultra good looks and slick game to pick up yet another hottie to bang. Needless to say, she will now worship me forever and basically be my slave until called upon to die for me.

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Today was another great day. Same old boring work, but After I went hunting and slayed 7 deer and 2 buffalo. Then I went back to the club and picked up another hottie to bang. This time I decided to stab her up and paint a giant face from her blood instead of adding her to my harem of sweet honeys.

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Today not so good. Walked outside, saw a pigeon, shat my pants, and decided to call in sick.

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Woke up, hunted, worked, banged hotties, killed carnies wifey and baby for fun, hunted some more.

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Freaking pigeons!!!

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Went to work today after about a weak of running from pigeons. Was ready to go back yesterday but caught a rerun of animaniacs and they showed the goodfeathers so I was paralyzed from the fear. Anyways, I had to take the day off from making the ladies worship me yo track down my boy Jared before he spilled the beans. Luckily he had a ho with him so I was able to get a quick piece before hacking them up. Get this, I decided to write a random line on the wall that will mislead everyone for years. HE IS MAR....not sure what it means, but that carnie will be doing back flips in his sleep.

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Decided to spend the day sharpening my hacking skills so I can mess with that dirty red head that gave me the shake a couple years ago. Dirty hobag. Tomorrow I will get back to hunting, arresting speeders, banging skanks, killing other skanks, and making sure my harem is still brainwashed into thinking I'm awesome. Of course this depends on no pigeons being out!!

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Got up early today, called in sick after seeing a turtle dove in the driveway. Not sure what I'll do today since hunting, banging, hypnotizing, killing, arresting are all off the table. I got an idea, maybe I can google bad cops. Yeah that's it, I'll find cops that have f'd up and somehow without explanation get them off then hold them hostage as my servants forever. I'll have FBI, cbi, local cops, homeland, and maybe even just one regular dude named Timothy in case I ever need a fall guy. This will be my new Sunday hobby since the rest of the week I have to be sheriff, bang chicks, kill other chicks, hack the web, and screw with the carnie.

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Convinced another honey that I look younger than I am younger than I look and have short straight hair today. Yep, she'll die for me someday. I can't quite figure out why they can't get my description right.

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Ran into the carnie again. Had a little fun with him. Of course all the fun went away when that damn bird buzzed me.

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That was a close one. What was I thinking getting the same tattoo that I forced all of my minions to get. Good thing I had that flash bomb, real bomb, and spare body handy to get out of it. Decided to save the carnie again though. Might have to kill him soon. Will have to let him know how psychic I am though.

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I'm not really sure what just happened. I think I'm dead. Not sure cuz I should have died a while ago but mustered up the ability to run a half marathon after being gut shot. Where'd it go wrong? Oh yeah, the damned pigeon!! Wait a minute.....none of this makes sense, I've been following this case for a while now, and something is off. I never went to no visualize farm. I don't have the game to pick up all them hotties. I didn't want that tattoo. I'm not psychic. I was never afraid of pigeons. I don't have the resources to blackmail hundreds of law officials. Is this a bad, poorly executed dream? Have I been played??

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Jane said, that he excludes all the possible suspects, that he met only once. Why the hell are McAllister and Smith on the list?
And if he met them again offscreen, it doesen't count. 
I can't acceppt Red John being someone, who should not even bee on this list. 

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Theory #18245 • By krobhag
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Below is a theory which allows for all of Heller's statements about Red John to be true.  But it is incomplete because I get stuck on Lorelei.  

What if Timothy Carter was RJ (i.e. the original murder) but wasn't the murderer of Jane's family?

The assumption then is that Roy is McCallister...head of the BA, an organization that co-opted the Red John persona for their own means.  Using the RJ persona, Roy/McCallister murdered Jane's family.

(Why?  Hopefully we will find that out in Season 7 because a reason isn't screaming out at me.)

So, at the end of Season 1, Roy/McCallister/BA - not Red John -  is taunting Jane. Jane conflates the identities of Roy and Red John, which suits Roy just fine.  

Then Strawberries and Cream happens. Red John uses O'Laughlin to kill Todd Johnson (who is BA and therefore an enemy of Red John).  

With this in mind, when Johnson recites "Tiger, tiger" he isn't exposing his relationship with Red John, but he is actually trying to see if Jane is in the BA and can help him.  In Todd's mind, Jane and the BA have a common enemy in Red John.  

(Aside from O'Laughlin, it is interesting that LaRoach's suspect list also includes Shetrick (BA), Bertram (BA), and Ardilles (later murdered..hmmm).)

Later, Carter Red John says he is planning to retire.  How does a psychopath serial killer "retire"?  He dies.  So he baits Jane into killing him in order to stop killing.  Eh?  

In Season 4, Jane proves to himself that Timothy Carter wasn't Roy by using Rossalind's negative ID.  The murder of Panzer proves to everyone else what Red John is still alive and that he wasn't Timothy Carter.  

Perhaps Jane killed Panzer, knowing he could peg it on Red John, thus "proving" that he wasn't dead.  From Jane's perspective it could be one of two ways:

Either:
1) Jane still doesn't realize that RJ and Roy were different people so when Rossiland told him that Carter wasn't Roy, he assumes RJ was still alive.   So he kills Panzer so that everyone will believe him.

Or:
2) He realizes that Roy and Red John are different people but he needs the CBI to think Red John is alive so that he can continue his pursuit.  So killing Panzer "proves" that they got the wrong guy.  

Sadly, I get stuck with Lorelie.  Who is she with?  She is either in league with the BA (doesn't seem likely) or is working with some other organization which seeks to take down the BA (seems more likely) and goes along with the Red John story in order to captivate Jane.  Not sure.  

Anyway, just a wee theory for old times sake.  

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