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Thomas McAllister

Thomas McAllister
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Simon Baker at a recent WB press conference:

“The experience that we had last year, in the last season—it was really interesting because you have the arc of what a story is and what the story should be. Then you have the idea of the business outside of that, of whether it will continue or whether the story is finished.

“If you ask me, the original story that we started off with and laid out in the pilot episode many years ago—that story finished probably around the end of the second season. When was Bradley Whitford (in the show as a man who convinced Patrick he was Red John but was not)? Like third season? I don’t know. They all blend into one."

He goes on to talk about Jisbon so I won't include it here.  Just found his "opinion" (whilst among WB execs) to be interesting and similar to some thoughts expressed here recently.

http://entertainment.inquirer.net/155649/simon-baker-coy-about-rumored-end-of-mentalist

(Sorry about the wierd source material....Philippine Inquirer?)








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HOW DAFUK RED JOHN KNEW 7 SUSPECTS EVEN BEFORE PATRICK???

this show went bananas.

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RJ's characteristics in total...simply do not match up, and I've long though RJ was two different people [or many].

RJ No. 1 is refined, loves Bach, wears fine suits, sips tea the right way, appreciates beauty and women [Harker, Lorelei] is clearly educated, clever, manipulative, with extensive knowledge of many things, including surveillance, as well as hypnosis.  This RJ is persuasive, and as such must be a lover to have such a devoted female following, but he is also a power hungry egomaniac psychopath who believes he is a god amongst others.  However, I doubt this RJ would get his hands too dirty.  He has minions, for this RJ is the MIND, the CREATOR, the ARCHITECT...

RJ No. 2 is not refined, and has the ability to kill in a way that would make anyone else sick.  This is the small time worker, though someone on a power trip, too, albeit on a lower lever.  He has the ability enough to carry out his deeds with his own hands, and knows very well what it is he specifically knows, but is not broadminded enough to resist being manipulated by someone smarter.  This is someone, who under the right influence [or hypnosis] could be manipulated to do to people what he has long done to animals.  This is the HUNTER, the WORKER, the STOOL PIGEON...

So, did Patrick Jane fulfill his mission and kill the man who killed his family?  

I THINK YES.  I think McAllister was the man who did that deed, physically, and as such, it was appropriate for Season Six, ep. 8 to have happened [even if I still don't like the WAY it happened]

McAllister was RJ No. 2

THIS IS THE ONLY WAY SEASON SIX CAN BE EXPLAINED as having been LEGIT and would make sense for why things were so confusing....Jane knew that McAllister was the one, but also that he was RJ No. 1's decoy

RJ No. 1 sent McAllister to kill Jane and frame Bertram because HE KNEW Jane would be ahead of McAllister.  RJ knew he could count on Jane to get rid of McAllister for him in the name of revenge.  And in RJ's sick, warped mind, he probably thought that he was giving Jane a gift, an emotional catharsis, handing over to 
Jane the man who killed his family. 

ANOTHER STOOL PIGEON:  HAIBACH -- it was RJ who killed LaRoche and Ardiles, just like he killed Wainwright and Bosco...
NO WAY small timer Haibach masterminded an elaborate surveillance plot....RJ was using Haibach to try and take out Grace and Wayne...

SO......Jane is still hunting, waiting patiently and playing the game...because...

The question that remains:  WHO IS RED JOHN No. 1....?

BRET STILES
RAY HAFFNER
MICHAEL KIRKLAND
KRISTINA FRYE
CBI RON
VIRGIL MINELLI
WALTER MASHBURN
GRACE VAN PELT






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What annoys me about Thomas McAllister being red john is that the same actor (Xander Berkeley) acted as a character with a secret organisation already in nikita. 

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I tried to defend this show and what bruno heller was doing but I just cant anymore. Ive got no faith left whatsoever in this tv show and the red john storyline. Heller had planned everything up until timothy carter, but due to high ratings and the show being renewed, he had to invent that timothy carter was not actually the real red john. From that point on heller had no idea what he was doing, all his clues of the past made no sense and he was just trying to extend the story for the money. When finally there had been enough waiting he had to decide who red john was, he had no idea so he just picked a random guy who made no sense whatsoever, but heller didnt care, he just wanted the red john story to be over because he had no clue what else to do.

Heller is already doing his new tv show gotham and doesnt give two shits about the mentalist. He is just milking its last moments with the jisbon storyline because he knows he has a big audience in there.

Dont expect red john in 13 episodes of season 7. It will most likely revolve around jane and lisbon and weekly cases thats it. Heller wants to end this so he can concentrate on gotham, he doesnt care about the fans or the story, leaving the red john thing without any answers. Well ofc there are no answers, because he had no clue what he was doing. How is he gonna provide answers if he made up everything even if it didnt make sense. Fuck heller

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Dear diary,

Today was a really great day. After spending 10 hours fulfilling my duties as local sheriff, I went out and used my ultra good looks and slick game to pick up yet another hottie to bang. Needless to say, she will now worship me forever and basically be my slave until called upon to die for me.

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Today was another great day. Same old boring work, but After I went hunting and slayed 7 deer and 2 buffalo. Then I went back to the club and picked up another hottie to bang. This time I decided to stab her up and paint a giant face from her blood instead of adding her to my harem of sweet honeys.

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Today not so good. Walked outside, saw a pigeon, shat my pants, and decided to call in sick.

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Woke up, hunted, worked, banged hotties, killed carnies wifey and baby for fun, hunted some more.

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Freaking pigeons!!!

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Went to work today after about a weak of running from pigeons. Was ready to go back yesterday but caught a rerun of animaniacs and they showed the goodfeathers so I was paralyzed from the fear. Anyways, I had to take the day off from making the ladies worship me yo track down my boy Jared before he spilled the beans. Luckily he had a ho with him so I was able to get a quick piece before hacking them up. Get this, I decided to write a random line on the wall that will mislead everyone for years. HE IS MAR....not sure what it means, but that carnie will be doing back flips in his sleep.

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Decided to spend the day sharpening my hacking skills so I can mess with that dirty red head that gave me the shake a couple years ago. Dirty hobag. Tomorrow I will get back to hunting, arresting speeders, banging skanks, killing other skanks, and making sure my harem is still brainwashed into thinking I'm awesome. Of course this depends on no pigeons being out!!

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Got up early today, called in sick after seeing a turtle dove in the driveway. Not sure what I'll do today since hunting, banging, hypnotizing, killing, arresting are all off the table. I got an idea, maybe I can google bad cops. Yeah that's it, I'll find cops that have f'd up and somehow without explanation get them off then hold them hostage as my servants forever. I'll have FBI, cbi, local cops, homeland, and maybe even just one regular dude named Timothy in case I ever need a fall guy. This will be my new Sunday hobby since the rest of the week I have to be sheriff, bang chicks, kill other chicks, hack the web, and screw with the carnie.

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Convinced another honey that I look younger than I am younger than I look and have short straight hair today. Yep, she'll die for me someday. I can't quite figure out why they can't get my description right.

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Ran into the carnie again. Had a little fun with him. Of course all the fun went away when that damn bird buzzed me.

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That was a close one. What was I thinking getting the same tattoo that I forced all of my minions to get. Good thing I had that flash bomb, real bomb, and spare body handy to get out of it. Decided to save the carnie again though. Might have to kill him soon. Will have to let him know how psychic I am though.

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I'm not really sure what just happened. I think I'm dead. Not sure cuz I should have died a while ago but mustered up the ability to run a half marathon after being gut shot. Where'd it go wrong? Oh yeah, the damned pigeon!! Wait a minute.....none of this makes sense, I've been following this case for a while now, and something is off. I never went to no visualize farm. I don't have the game to pick up all them hotties. I didn't want that tattoo. I'm not psychic. I was never afraid of pigeons. I don't have the resources to blackmail hundreds of law officials. Is this a bad, poorly executed dream? Have I been played??

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Jane said, that he excludes all the possible suspects, that he met only once. Why the hell are McAllister and Smith on the list?
And if he met them again offscreen, it doesen't count. 
I can't acceppt Red John being someone, who should not even bee on this list. 

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