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Theory #18908 • By Stoopkid
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This is the first time i ever put Macalister as Red john
on this site..

I dissed Heller for how the show turned out
but i was so wrong.

First off, secret groups whithin law enforcement
and politics are as real as day!

The whole image of "serial killers" in our society is a lie..

Monsters like Jeffrey Darmer or the Zodiac Killer are not serial killers.

They were the low life handlers that delivered victims to their bosses..

Satanist and Pedophillia cults are rampant in law enforcement and elite circles.

Red John was never a serial killer

He didnt have an M.o.

And we know this bc he killed more people on the Mentalist in
different ways than he killed by his apparent m.o.

Lorelie:
She lured girls in vegas to join red john.
A pimp or "madame" you can say..
Red john controlled her not because he's magic..
Its trauma based mind control not some trick..
Rj manipulated Lorelie by exploiting her past traumas..

Ok how did Red John guess Janes list..

Simple.
It was a trick like Jane said

How hard would it of been to fake Lorelie's death?
Rj owned the police!
And if you watch the scene where Jane finds her body..
1)she has less injuries than she did in the video
2) she showed no wounds and only had a white sheet covered in blood draped over her
3) the crime scene was shady in itself and police presence was minimal.

So rj kept lorelie alive and used her
He knew Jane was getting close so killing Lorelie right away would be stupid for him..

The Ba are aleister crowley "do what thou will" type of dudes..
Above God
Which is parellelled with Visualize Stiles type of thinking..

Only Rj left Visualize after the barn in 88'

He started selling meth like that episode implies..

And remember when Macalister , Bertram, and Reed Smith are all having a meeting together?
It was a meeting about "getting meth off the streets in Nappa Country"

Interesting..

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Anyone remember the part AFTER Red John died? They were in the factory and it was booby trapped and Rigsby almost died? The factory blew up? Who was it that tried to kill them? I looked into it but no one has any answers/theories on it and they never arrested anyone.

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In S05E08, Red Sails In The Sunset, we see Bob Kirkland make a phone call while (from memory) he is standing in Lisbon's office. He is calling with a person called Tom and the call is about getting the Marshalls involved into the case at hand.

Remember Jared Renfrew? In S01E11, Red John's Friends, the clue left for Jane by Jared Renfrew, written in blood on the bathroom wall, is: 'He Is Mar'. Main theory on this clue is that Renfrew was trying to write 'He Is Marshall' but that he succumbed to his wounds while writing the message.

I believe that this call between Kirkland and "Tom" is the follow-up to this hint. Kirkland is actually calling Sheriff Thomas McAllister (who goes by the nickname Tom), and that this was one of the direct hints dropped in Season 5 (which went quite overlooked as I can't find anything on it) about Red John's identity. One of the earliest hints that Red John is in fact Thomas McAllister.

(I've rewatched all of the Mentalist episodes in the past few weeks and this was one of the bigger things I've noticed) 

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Well ... it really was the sheriff ... But... Am i the only one who thinks that it doesn't make any sense?
I continued to watch the show until it's end but i honestly think everyone in this ("who is red john?") comunity put more thought into the whole red john thing than the writers of Mentalist.

There were too many things left to explain, too many things didn't make any sense and... lets be honest... There were several candidates more probable than the sheriff ... Stiles, Kirkland, Partridge, Bertram, Brenda, Royston Daniels, Mashburn, Rosalind, Van Pelt, Lisbon, Volker,  Minelli...
All of these had reasons to be suspects and, at least, half of them were better candidates than the sheriff...

Do you agree? what are the things you think were left to explain? What was the better candidate?
Any theories that make more sense than this "sheriff" conclusion?

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I think Thomas McAllister was a very plausible Red John. I know not many will agree but yes Red John is described as a showman but he is also careful and clever. Everyone thinks that Jane and McAllister were nothing a like but I disagree. First off we didn't get to see McAllister enough  to tell if he was a lot like jane. But from what we did see at least what I saw there were a lot alike. Just look at Wedding In Red (6x3) Watch them both examine the body watch how McAllister points out things Jane missed but he is very careful about doing it as not to raise any red flags. (sorry for the red pun lol). I don't think it's too far fetched that he was RJ. ok that all I got to say now you can all tell me I'm wrong or not a true fan but I really I'm a fan of the show have been from the beginning and I think we would have been disappointed no matter who RJ turned out to be. He became this God like thing that was unstoppable for 6 years no one can live up to that.

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WHAT THE FUCK DID THEY DO TO THIS SHOW??? WHY??? THIS HAS BEEN THE BIGGEST BALLDROP TRAINWRECK IN TV HISTORY !!!!!! ..........The Red John character/storyline was the most compelling thing on tv for the first 3 seasons .....Timothy Carter was the perfect Red John.....they should have ended RJ then and Season 4 could have been the "New Beginning" .........Season 5 have the B.A. as the villian. Season 6 C.B.I. Killer/ JISBON ................................................NOT A RJ FAKEOUT FOLLOWED BY 2 SEASONS OF A RJ JERKOFF....THEN THEY PICKED MCRedJohn OUT OF A HAT.......THEN IN ABOUT A SEASON INTRODUCE --"NEW BEGGINING" , ABBOTT, WHYLIE, FISHER.....CBI KILLER...JISBON....they dismantled the B.A. off screen and killed off Stiles and Haffner off screen .....they never mentioned RJ again ..... McRJ .....what a fuckin joke on us

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If you re-watch closely the 6x08 "Red John", you'll notice something quite unnerving... Something much worse than RJ being McAllister...

Don't get it?

It's that, basically, you can replace McAllister by ANYONE ELSE with the same scenes and dialogues... IT WILL WORK THE SAME.

Neither McAllister, Jane, or anyone else refers something specific to McAllister... It's just... random!!! It could have been whatever suspect you'd like, the pizza guy... the scenes would have worked the same!!

I really wonder if this episode was written without any suspect in mind, just with "insert random RJ guy" for McAllister scenes, and then 3 minutes before shooting the episode, some guy came and say "oh hey it'll be McAllister I've just called Xander Berkeley he can come and do the episode right now!!".

RJ from 6x08 was just a fraud. The only RJ who can be acknowledged was the RJ from 3x24. The guy had it all...

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