Who is Red John?

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I Just have a couple of thoughts after the last episode.

1.) The writers are doing a good job of giving the different suspects their "moments" and now that Haffner has been featured "again" it's making him seem like he is too obvious a choice. But is that another trick?

2.) Does anyone else think Van Pelt is going to be the casualty of Red John? With the announcement of her and "Rigsby" leaving the show it's plausible she gets killed and Rigsby leaves in despair ( I don't think they will kill Rigsby off as he has a child).Or is it another "trick" as we haven't heard anything about Cho going or staying. Maybe he will be the victim and none of them are coming back?

3.) If Haffner is RJ then Grace sarcastically telling him he did a "bang up job" protecting the dead guy probably wasn't a great move. Would this be seen as "insulting" him? Theresa is noticeably always very polite to him even when he is rude.

4.) Does RJ seem more careless and sloppy now? He has to use low end P.I.'s now when he would have had a mole on the inside before? Are we to assume Jane is getting to him and he's flustered?

5.) Ray clapping Jane on the shoulder like RJ again- more misdirection from the writers?

6.) Jane seems awfully cool and detached despite getting closer to Red John. Also, did no one tell him about Kirkland's death? Was he expecting it? Shouldn't he have been involved in the discussions about it?

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If we are to believe that Bruno Heller and the writers of The Mentalist had Red John and who he was picked out, and his entry into the series plotted out for more than just the past season then I believe it must be Ray Haffner.

If you assume they knew who Red John was and are not just picking a guest that was previously on the show and trying to whittle him into Red John, then Ray Haffner's story fits not only the clues we know about Red John but the personality as well.

If you go back and watch "Little Red Book" which is Ray Haffner's intro to the series and look at with the expectation he is Red John every thing he says and does takes on significance. Assuming Ray is Red John, who became increasingly obsessed with Patrick Jane and took the assignment as a chance to not only observe Jane but uses it as an attempt to befriend him and his team.

-Ray is very prominently shown shaking Jane's hand when he meets him
-Ray specifically tells Jane he wanted to work with him.
-Ray tells Jane very seriously 'I would have worked with you, given the chance" (could be a double meaning - as Red John and as Haffner to Jane)
-Ray happily accepts Van Pelt on his team (to the surprise of J.J. LaRoche) he is eager to work with all of the team.
-He tries to befriend/turn Cho, ostensibly as part of Haffner's team against Jane but again could be a double meaning. As Red John,  is he looking for "weak" people in Jane's group or possible acolytes?
-He questions Cho on Jane- what do you thing of Jane? Do you trust him? is he smarter than Haffner? Cho? He is more interested in Jane than the case.
-He pats Cho on the shoulder as Red John did to Jane.
-Even LaRoche thinks Haffner is behaving oddly and asks if "everything is alright?" because he is being so accommodating to Jane and his team.
- He says to Jane "it's a nice little game you ran on Tork"
-He says to Jane "You wanted my attention, you got my attention but if you try to run another game on me or my people we're going to have a problem" spoken as Haffner but also applicable as Red John.
-He says to Jane "did you really think that was going to happen that I wasn't watching you every minute" (may explain how Red John knew the seven suspects. He has been doing surveillance on Jane for years. He knew every person Jane had met, maybe even has tapes. Haffner is the "surveillance expert."
-Bertram says to Haffner (ominously?) "I thought you could handle Jane" and "Dont worry we'll find something else for you" and Haffner smiles (kind of odd considering he is being effectively fired)
-Haffner is a smart man who has worked his way up the ranks but he falls for all of Jane's tricks? He is obviously taking the job to observe them all, then let Lisbon have her job back now his "surveillance" is done.
-After his time with the team, Jane (and after Sam Bosco and Rebecca) he becomes interested in Lisbon. (because he knows she is important to Jane?)
-He tries to "take" Lisbon away by offering her a job or just testing her loyalty to Jane?
-Red John is supposed to be very convincing and hypnotic. Ray gives a very compelling speech to Lisbon asking if she is really attached to Jane not the work. His argument about her being alone with the work clearly strikes a chord with Lisbon. He has accurately read her desires and her fears regarding Jane. He is charming, empathetic and flattering with her.
-He is consistently good-natured and the only suspect of the five left who is believably charming and irresistible to women like Lorelei, Rebecca etc.
- He says "if there's one thing I've learned about Jane it's that catching bad guys is a game to him"
-He tells Lisbon "You're missing out on something big"
-The obvious clues mentioned everywhere, age and a member of Visualize.
-Lorelei his acolyte mentions how Jane is "a little bit in love" with Lisbon- did she get this from Haffner/Red John?
-Lisbon's head is the price of Jane's loyalty to Red John. Haffner is one person who saw how important they are to each other.
-Red John sent Lorelei, a woman to Jane. Was it to alienate Lisbon.
-Ray's seeming interest in Lisbon, always telling her how much he likes her, making sure he is her 'friend."
-Even when he comes to speak to Lisbon about a case, he can't help asking about Jane. How did Jane pull off his latest trick? Then smiling.

Plus all of the behavior recently- Red John sparing Lisbon, claiming her with his mark, the creepy hospital behavior etc etc etc.

Out of anyone he has the best back story and the most interaction with Jane and the team. I think it will be disappointing if it turns out to be anyone else.




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Just an observation, not really accusing Brett Partrige.

When the other guy says

"I've always wanted to for one of the famous killers"

BP: He's been laying low for years, working through friends and proxies.

Guy: He killed just recently, didn't he?

BP: That was an internal issue. Lorelei Martins was one of his own people. Doesn't count.

If he is RJ, it is like he is trying to justify his actions. It is like he is trying to explain it was just an internal thing and he hasn't been killing innocent people for a long time.

Well, internal or not, it counts! 
Murder is murder. And only a killer would come with such a sentence, saying it does not count and trying to justify the murder.

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