Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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Theory #3246 • By SheDevil
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I'm really new to this series, just started watching a couple of months ago, but one thing that caught my eye immediately is that the "smiley" face looks a lot like Patrick Jane. I'm sure that may sound odd, but there are times when he smiles that I think he looks like the smiley face. It's drawn with the eyes slanting down and his eyes do as we'll. that leads me to think it is someone from his past that may or may not have been revealed yet. Also red John supposedly paints the victims toe nails with their own blood. What Man would do that or even think to do that unless he's on the feminine side or its a woman, insane or scorned maybe. What is the story of Jane's mother? How about his psychiatrist? Wasn't that a female? It just seems that everyone is looking for it to be a man, but the men that are listed seem a little obvious. Sorry if this is really naive....:-)

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I believe that RJ is Brett Partridge.
(a lot of theories already explained why in details so I'm not going to write the same things)


however, the anagram of some names in the suspects list give interesting results:


Reede Smith ---> THE RED IS ME (heller said we'll be disappointed...)

Reede Smith ---> HE'S RED MEIT ---> HE'S RED MATE (?) (RJ has a good friend in the FBI)

Bret Stiles ---> BRETTS LIES (brett partridge's lies)

in BRETT PARTRIDGE you can find the words RED TIGER PART (tyger, tyger....)



In the season 5 finale there's a scene where Jane asks Brett if he was sure that the killer wasn't RJ. Then you see partridge answering, but if you notice there's the bloody red smile behind him...

it might be a coincidence... but I think they shot the scene that way on purpose
all you see is partridge talking about RJ and the red face behind... it's like heller says "the answer is in front of you jane, can't you see it?"

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My theory is that all the 8 person  ine RedJohn list on 5th season last episode are RedJohn disciples and maybe on of them is RedJohn. Maybenot. 

Bob kirkland is definitely disciple, the photograph he got from jane's room helped the RJ to figure out who are all on the list. this is already clear. he kills that other RJ disciple in hospital also. a work usually assigned disciples.

Gale bertram is already disciple because RJ is able to figure out what is happening inside CBI. there is not more better way than bertram to do this.

Ray Haffner is the guy who painted RJ smiley on the barn run by visualize. he is gonna start a new security agency. he is definitely one of the disciple. and one possible suspect of being RJ.

Reed Smith: This is a viable suspect for being RJ. because he appears not so many times before us and in many cases is being fooled by Jane. so I am not reading RJ or Jane here. I am reading Bruno here. I am expecting a double bluff by him here. because we all expect a non-famous guy as RJ. but I am thinking he will put popular guy as RJ. so i am crossing down reed as RJ. but definitely a disciple I guess.

Mcallister: This is a viable suspect for RJ, but only seen in one episode. more age than expected. I am expecting RJ to be same age as Jane. but over secrecy of mcallister make give him high rank to become RJ. I am keepping him as RJ suspect. 

Brett Partridge: He is also definitely a disciple of RJ but not definitely RJ. because in the first episode he identifies a non RJ murder as RJ murder and other one in second season. if he is RJ he will not be willing to give RJ trademark to other mans murder. RJ is highly sensitive like that lot of self pride. 

Bret Stiles: This is the highest ranking suspect for RJ in my view point. because RJ is same as Jane. a psychic capabilities may be more than Jane. Brett stiles can manipulate minds make disciples to follow his order stiles has shown this capabilities one or two times in other aspects also.  Jane at some point is tranced by stiles to know some of the secrets of Jane. like the murder in last episode. this is why he knows jane's secret. So bret stiles is the highest ranking suspect for being RJ.

So my Red John Suspects are in its ranking

Bret Stiles
Sheriff Mcallister
Ray Haffner

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I think we interpreted the 5th season ending wrongly. The writers want us to think that red john is still a step ahead of red john and what not but what I think is that Patrick Jane wants Red John to feel that way. By making that list and letting red john "predict" it correctly, he has made red john more cocky and desperate to prove that he is the best. As red john put it himself that he will start killling again..and that is the window jane needs to watch his suspects even closer and wait for a mistake to happen. Of all the things we know about patrick jane, one is sure: he is smart as hell and this time it is red john who has fallen for his trap. 
Patrick jane victimized himself to lure rj out. 

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Here I am again!
Well, after the seven suspects are revealed, I realize that I’ve unfairly stalkered CBI Ron for too long! :P
So,
I have a theory for four of the seven suspects (I have a theory even
for the other three, Stiles, Smith and Kirkland, but I don't believe
that one of them is Red John).
The authors confirm that one of this seven is actually Red John, so my main suspect is Brett Partridge, and these are the reasons why:

he is the
only one on the list that we have seen since the first episode. If he is
the real Red John everything would have a sort of poetry and genius: he
goes along with us in this manhunt from the beginning, scattering clues
hither and thither.
So, let's see these clues:

First, he is
the only one of the seven to match perfectly the description of
Rosalind. for the other suspects we should be flexible or we should
consider unreliable the description.

Then his debut. Brett
Partridge enters the scene and the first thing he said is "Red John
enters here." Then, as he explains with a certain emphasis and a certain
irony the dynamics of the murder, Patrick recalls in a flashback the
tragic night when he slandered John on TV. The flashback ends and here
comes another interesting clue: Brett says "There she blows", quoting
Moby Dick. We know that this novel has been and continues to be trot out
to describe Patrick's obsessive manhunt against John.
A little later, Patrick defines him as a "ghoul" for the first time and walks away saying "He irks me, he's irksome."

The
second meeting between them it's in episode 2x23. Again, after the
pilot, it is a case of emulation. Again Partridge assumes an irritating
behavior, firstly ignoring the presence of the corpse and turning
cheerfully to Patrick ("Hey, hey, Patrick Jane. Long time. So qué pasa,
dude?"), Then teasing and mocking him about his alleged abilities .
Patrick still denies that it is Red John and leaves the room; Brett calls him "jerk" and Patrick comes back, scaring him.
Later
it will be Red John to do the same thing with Patrick: Firstly he
recites the famous verse of The Tyger, then he comes back, scaring
Patrick, and tells him about Kristina.
If Partridge is really John, this could be his way of revenge for the previous humiliation.
All
of That would be a farce to show himself less intelligent than he is.
No matter if Patrick gets the better of Brett, because when Brett
assumes the identity of Red John, he will always be a step ahead or
more.

The third meeting between Patrick and Brett occurs in the
episode 5x15: It's been a long time since we've seen him and it's
curious that he reappears in a case which is not about Red John, but
anticipating the episode in which Lorelei died.
This is the second
time that Patrick calls him "ghoul", and he has all the reasons to do
it: Brett has fun to explain with the most nauseating details the steps
of a human combustion. It must be said that Cho doesn't give him much
satisfaction (Cho is always a legend), but Patrick is shown once again
annoyed ... and disgusted. :D
There are two other interesting details
in this scene: the first concerns the Partridge's mother Partridge:
Brett talks about her in the past tense, so she must be dead. And when
he recalls her, he scratches his neck, a gesture of discomfort, as if
his mother is a sore spot for him. The other detail concerns what
Partridge reads:
at some point he mentions a novel and both Patrick
and Cho identify it as "Bleak House" by Charles Dickens. When Patrick
mentions the title and the author it seems that Brett makes the same
labial movements, as if in fact he was just pretending not to remember
the book. Dickens is not a vital clue, however, it indicates some
interest in English literature by Partridge, and Red John is also
interested in English literature (The Tyger by William Blake).

At last, we have the episode 5x22:
this
is the first time we can see Partridge in a crime scene of the real Red
John. And we can see his totally different attitude than that one he
taken in the emulators crime scenes: very serious, no irony and no
desire to tease Patrick. Moreover, when the killer is an emulator, Brett
says that it is John; when the killer is John he says that it is an
emulator. This is very strange: he wants to pass for a dumb, but these
"errors" are too precise to be random. They are few minutes but full of
information: Partridge says to his colleague he handed the Red John's
case since he began to kill, so since before the pilot episode, in which
Brett shows himself excited to finally see the Red John's smiley face
in flesh . But he should have seen it other occasions if he already
handed the case from the beginning. Maybe the writers have forgotten
that line. :P
Nevermind, we know that Brett handed the case from the
beginning and this reminds me of the episode with James Panzer: Patrick
said on TV that the San Joaquin killer was someone who has Themselves
attached to the investigation somehow ... someone hiding in plain sight.
And
even when Patrick made Ellis Mars to be the suspect of the murders in
the episode 3x09, Lisbon said that it's a common psychopathic profile,
classic almost. They seek a part in the investigation, they seek the
spotlight. The analogy with Brett makes sense.
Brett also explains that John is Been laying low for years, working through friends
and
proxies: Lorelei Martins doesn't count, that was an internal issue.
These words are reflected in those of the message of John, who warns
Patrick that he is going to start killing again. Often.
Then Patrick
enters the scene: the air we breathe is totally different from the other
times. Everything is seriously, creepy: Patrick talks with respect to
Brett for the first time, calling him "Mr. Partridge". Brett grants room
and time for Patrick. When it's the real Red John no games and no
"ticktock".

In conclusion of this theory an additional clue that
came to my mind the day after the episode 5x22: Heller said in an
interview that "Red John likes cold."  It seems that this clue has not
yet been deciphered by anyone, but suddenly after the last episode I had
this intuition (which might be a bullsh*t). :D
Well, who are we
talking about here? Brett the partridge But the partridge is also a bird
" and this bird likes a cold climate, if I'm not wrong.

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hi, at first im not with theory's who said that Patrick is red john, because Lorelei said that Patrick and red john shook hands, so it mean's he is not, but my theory and guess is about Brett Partridge, he seemed like an idiot and enjoying too much his work (Patrick Jane said the last one) , but if we take a deep look isn't it a good undercover and a chance for Red John to watch closely the consequences and the result of his job , to see the fear in the eyes and maybe to hide an evidence and mistakes, another clue watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRR3PT-uk4w  . when i see Brett Partridge i see a deep anger and craftiness in his eyes.                                                                                                              think about it ;)

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Theory #3224 • By Rj_Fanatic
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HELLO to all the fans out there...

Here's my theory...,
        
                                   Red John is not a powerful person as an individual.I am guessing he is just a random guy who has access to all the dirty secrets of his accomplices. all of his accomplices were forced to bond with him because of their dirty secrets. he is not a sociopath , most of the RJ victims were killed because some one wanted him to. gradually he becomes popular , more secrets which means more money and power.
 
i mean HOW CAN ONE SINGLE PERSON HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE IN HIS HAND..?

i guess Red john is an ex-cop or present low profile cop who has access to all departments. or maybe he was from visualize who helped stiles by killing two men. then he kills so many people for a lot of other people in return he gets money and finally killing becomes his hobby. he kills for fun.

i also have another guess that RJ has some connection with patrick's wife and her family.

so basically red john is not someone in the CBI ,  but someone whom we are not taking account of...
i am guessing he may be a cleaner tooo...

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