Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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We all try to figure out who Red John is, but has any of you ever wondered why he does what he does? What is his story? Why all this murders? Why women? Why cutting them?
I
mean, yes, he is a sick person, we know that, but as Patrick always
says, there is a story behind people`s acts. I`m sure that, at the end
of the show, when Red John will be caught he will tell Jane his side of the story. He
will explain his motives and beliefs. I don`t say that they will be
reasonable or right, because it is impossible to be reasonable when
murdering another person.
However, my point is: the biggest clue of who Red John could be is his
story - childhood, family relationship, his personal life (is he
married, does he have kids?), and, most important, his traumas.
Something bad happened to him and the person responsible is, most certainly, a women. My guess? His mother. Probably, something related to sexual abuse, violence, or murder.
I
don`t think Red John`s father was there for him in this childhood, so
he didn`t have any paternal presence in his life. The reason why is say
this is because of his behaviour: obviously, he has a strong resentment
for women, and he feel more manly when he tortures them. He doesn`t actually know what being a man means, and this is because he didn`t have in is family an example to follow.
Red John doesn`t like to in insulted, so even that time with Panzer, when RJ knew for sure that Jane manipulated Panzer to insult RJ, so RJ could kill him, he didn`t stay away. He murdered him even if he knew that the whole thing was orchestrated by Jane. This means that he actually doesn`t stand the idea of being insulted and not punishing the person who dared to do that. This show a deep frustration inside, so we should think which of the 7 suspects could hide this type of feeling. Which one of them seems to not feel very comfortable with himself and with the others? I have a guess, I have already said in a recent post (http://www.whoisredjohn.com/See-a-theory-Red-John/3633) that, for me, Partridge is the guy. Even if I don`t know anything about his past, his behavior make think that he didn`t have a great childhood, he didn`t have his father around, he probably has a cat and very fine tastes. But this is just my theory, you don`t have to agree with it.
But think about it, if
we knew something about the suspects pasts, we could have a better clue
about who RJ could be. This is how Jane closes cases - he attentively
studies people, based on their past, their personal lives, family and
friends. This is the best way to catch RJ, too. Instead of obsessivily
asking who, we should first ask why.


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Brett partridge est le plus grand suspect. Il est présent à toutes les scènes de crime de red john. Son age est presque le même que celui de patrick. Il était peu présent dans la série. Les autres suspect sont  trop vieux , trop influencable ou ont aidés patrick jane dans les enquêtes contre red john.

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first of all , sorry for my bad English

Whoever RJ turns out to be,Heller better have a strong back-story for him.because i am sure as hell they've changed their story.

at first he was a sociopath , sick , but good serial killer who had a few friends (like everybody) but suddenly he became a superhuman , a genius , a super psychologist , a ladies man , who has worshipers who do everything for him (even committing suicide !!!)
at first his friend was orville tanner (a normal criminal ) and now according to jane he has powerful friends all over the california. 
he is a super human who is everywhere , even watching all the programs to know who is talking about him so few hours later  he can kill them (seriously!!!)

now there is 7 suspects . and according to heller the list is legit. ok , let's take a look at it .
 
as you can see partridge is the most popular suspect . there is evidence which confirms  that he is red john . for example the voice or the flashback when R.J was killing peaks . nobody can deny it , that was partridge's face in there ( unless they change the footage ) but again , i think everybody agree that the person who poisoned rebeca was red john . now , take an other look at him , he has a strong upper body and wide shoulders ( unlike partridge )

Well i think because of heller's interview we can rule patrick  ( apparently after 5 season heller made his decision about him :D )

Then there is kirkland .there is three kind of theory about him1 : He is hunting red john : if this is true then we can certainly say that he knows red john's true identity ( otherwise he should asked lennon before killing him ) . so if he knows who red john is why doesn't he kill RJ ?

2 He is red john :  Bruno Heller and someone else said: we might have seen him in  first or second seasons and as we saw he looks the same as he did 10 years ago ( when PJ joined CBI) + someone comes out of nowhere in fifth season !!! i don't know...

3 He is accomplice : possible but again who is red john ?

Gale Bertram : someone whom a lot of people after last episode saying that he is our guy .  yes he has connections , yes he quotes william blake , but he wasn't in first 2 seasons and honestly since his first episode i haven't seen a single cleverness in him . jane easily plays him like he did in his first episode . he made him to talk complete rubbish on TV about a diamond .  he easily lose poker to an old guy and etc .... now you want me to believe he is  the master mind super human that show describes ?

Bret Stiles : Only person in list that can be red john with his brainwashing abilities and connections and endless money and worshipers.  but in 1988 he would be 45 , and no one calls a 45 years old man a kid.

Ray Haffner : someone whom jane in few days almost got him fired , someone who make himself obvious by being nosy about allison farm ... sorry but no sir .

Ray Haffner : someone whom jane in few days almost got him fired , someone who make himself obvious by being nosy about allison farm ... sorry but no sir 


Reede Smith and McAllister which i think even mentioning them in list was an insult to fans .

how did Jane narrow down his list of suspects to seven ? how can he possibly know where have they been ?

like i said alot of loose ends and paradoxes. that's why i hope they have a good and strong back story for their serial killer .there is a lot of other clues but i think i made my point .


thanks for your time and i would be happy to see your comments.


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For ( almost ) everyone on the list there is enough details, facts and
evidence to create a solid theory that he is Red John. I'v seen quite
enough theories for almost every person on the list, and all of them
seems to be plausible and believable. These was a McAllister theory just
now, and it makes sense. Not to mansion B. Partridge, Kirkland,
Bertrham, Stiles... The diference between them is how we personal see
the end of the show, and our individual opinions on the 'story' of red
john.
Is there enough evidence to reveal Red John ? By now, It is up
to every one of us individualy. Lets us to use our own imagination and
create the Red John we like him to be.
Who really gonna be RJ, is up to B. Heller's personal choice.

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i wanna emphasize this observation. when cbi ron was first seen in the series... season 1 episode 7. he was focused with that creepy sound playing similar to the one we always hear whenever we see the red john smiley face painted on the walls... co incidence? go back to that episode and youll see what i mean.

and how come that none of that none seven suspects were introduced in the series with that red john creepy sound?

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There is really something with CBI RON.

I dont know if someone posted about these observations:

1. 1x07 "Seeing Red" the first appearance of cbi ron in the show. If you will notice, cbi ron is seated next to rigsby. Upon lisbon's appearance, there we are, they focused ron with a creepy sound. A big co-incidence?

2, 1x10 , how come ron is sitting with audience? close to the standing sophie, jane's psychiatrist? co incidence again?

3. 1x11, after jared renfrew called jane that he's sorry because he cannot cross the redjohn's line. Who was in the background while minelli was speaking? It was cbi ron... and is it really a coincidence that ron was pretending to do nothing... but if you will look at it more closely, ron was listening...

I cannot list everything, but there are so many creepy and suspicious incidence involving ron. He seems to be innocent but if you will re watch all the seasons and focus on ron, youll see what i mean. I began suspecting him after i re watched all the five seasons.

I am not saying he is RJ. BUt he is the man i vision to be dating with rosalind harker. His face really matches rj's laugh. Just try to imagine.

And how come we do not know his surname? He was present in all the seasons. dont tell me rj is the man who appeared only once or twice or thrice or late in the show? I do not think so. if so, that would really be disappointing and foolish. You see, Sometimes we have just have to go back to the basics.

I would really be happy if ron is red john.

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If it's someone from the list it's Partridge gotta be  i suspected him after rewatching the pilot episode but dissmised it when he didn't appear again in the first season   when he popped up in the season 2 finale (a red john ep written by bruno heller) my radar went off and in season 5 he showed up in two episodes(on a red john season finale ep written by bruno heller) an all my suspicions were confirmed by just the fact that Partridge is on jane's list   and he's the only one the show hasn't hinted  is red john       everone else is either too obvious or not obvious at allI've got every season on dvd and have watched every episode at least 3 times each the more i think about it the more i'm convinced Red John is more than one person(a cult within Visulize?) and is heavily involved with Visulize (mentored by or working for Bret Stiles) 1-Stiles' knowledge of Red John    2-Red John's accomplices appear cult like  3-Visulize has members in the CBI  4-The smiley face on the barn at the Visulize farm       
Red John has a connection to Jane's carni past  1-there's a reason Red John hasn't killed jane  2-maybe knows or is Jane's Dad or brother in law Danny 3- could be related to someone the Jane's ripped off 4- the knowledge of Jane's happy memory 5- Shaun Barllow seems to know a lot about red john and describes jane's dad as wicked  
 
 it's not one one of the guys on the list   every possible Red John reveal has been a fake out this is just another cock tease another ploy by jane so red john will let his guard down    It's gonna be dissapointing if it is just one of the seven people on the list     it's gonna b more than one person or someone not on the list #1-Janes dad #2-Mashburn #3-Minnelli #4-Christine Frye #5-That blind chick is not blind  lol

But still . . .revealing Red John has been Jane all along would make this the greatest show ever going back and rewatching every ep knowing jane is really red john would b crazy



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