Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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Hi all,

as english is not my native language, I hope you'll be able to understand my theory.

There is one guy we discover and that almost everybody has forgotten : Patrick's father.

To my mind, he is Red John.

He is the one who teach everything about mentalism to Patrick. And he is the one who knows Patrick more than everyone else.

We can see him in an episode where he is trying to sell a magic stone to an old women who wants to heal her daughter from a cancer. Patrick's father seems to be selfish and greedy.

He is not in the official suspect list, that make a perfect suspect because nobody is expecting this end and that would be a very good surprise.

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I just have a theory that RJ and Lisbon wants the same thing from PJ.
They want PJ to quit and get new life. We will see both the facts side by side.

1.) what does RJ want from PJ:RJ could easily kill PJ if he wants.
He easily killed todd johnson. it would be very easy for him to kill PJ.But he does not want to kill PJ. In fact, he helps PJ, when PJ got abducted in season-2 finale. why?so can we assume he cares about PJ?
Simply RJ wants to play mind games with PJ and be one step ahead all the time.
I think he likes/admires PJ up to a point. 

He asks PJ if he is ready to quit. if he has given up the chase?
He(RJ) asks PJ to be his friend/disciple and they could lead a higher path.
In the mall, (Fake)RJ says that he is not worth ruining PJ's life and asks him to get new life.
why would RJ ask all this if he wants to kill PJ badly.?PJ wants to kill RJ badly, but RJ does not want to kill PJ at any cost.

Because of PJ, RJ lost his inside man Criag Olaughlin.
He himself had to kill Lorelei who was very close to her.But still RJ does not get mad and kill PJ or the one who PJ trusts more which is Lisbon. why?

if RJ does not want to kill PJ, then he have to be so sure that PJ will not catch him.
for that, he has to know all the plans of PJ so he can be a step ahead and play mind games with him.
if not he is just risking getting caught by not killing PJ. agreed?
if he have to be that confident, then he has to really get close to PJ.
Who else is close to PJ than Lisbon? Just think.

2.) Lisbon's interactions with PJ:
Lisbon alwyas says that she would stop PJ killing RJ.
she does not want PJ to take revenge.
Everyone watching this series wants PJ to catch/kill RJ one day.
 Even the jury thought that PJ is right in killing the (fake)RJ guy in the mall.
But why would Lisbon admit once that its ok for PJ to kill RJ?
 Because she is linked to RJ somehow and she wants PJ to get over that.

At the start of season-4, Lisbon tries to convince PJ that RJ is dead. why?

why does (RJ)he asks for Lisbon's head as gift from PJ?
Because he came to know that PJ is faking just after PJ told the whole thing to Lisbon in church.?

Lisbon is supposed to come late when catching Dumar. but she showed up earlier in the Dumar episode.We could see that RJ was there whole time and just left before lisbon arrived. Co-incidence?

Everytime when Lisbon get involves, PJ somehow misses his target(RJ).Season-3 and Season-4 finale are all examples.

3.) Points to suggest Lisbon is somehow linked to RJ:

I think PJ is starting to suspect Lisbon.
May be he found something about lisbon connecting to RJ.
In the last episode of season-5:PJ said Lisbon would get mad at him if he says the reason why he will not reveal the suspects to her. 
He also said that he cannot trust any one right now and he looks at her very strangely. 
He also said that he can tell three things that lisbon keeps as secret from everyone but then lisbon decides not to talk on that anymore. 
PJ also kept watching Lisbon's face when Lorelei read the suspect list.
In an episode,
Lisbon has a hammer in her desk and says to PJ that - you think you know everything about me but thats not true.
If PJ trusts and care about someone in the whole of the mentalist series, would that not be Lisbon?
if so, why RJ had not killed Lisbon yet if he wants to hurt PJ?He killed Lorelei who would alomst do anything for him just because she revealed an info to PJ.
But remember she also got close to PJ. They were lovers.

what if RJ killed Lorelei/took Kristiana not for the obvious reasons but just because they were getting close to PJ. 
Remember PJ had a date with Kristiana. they could have made a relationship if there was not that RJ killing in that episode.
May be he is keeping PJ alive for Lisbon.

Conclusion:
If Lisbon is RJ's disciple how good that would be for RJ.
 I think it would be perfect. RJ needs nothing more than this.
 He can get all the info about Jane and his investigation.
And also he wants Lisbon to convince PJ to quit and get new life some day. 

we have to split the whole mentalist series into two parts. upto season-3 and after season-3.
The facts/evidences after season-3 should be given more importance.
At the end of season-3, fake RJ is dead. May be this series was suppose to end by season-3.
And the fake RJ was supposed to be real RJ.
 So we might have some contradicting events upto season-3 which does not support few theories.

This might be a stupid theory. but who knows if some of the things here were right? Just have to wait and see.Thanks for reading.

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Why does everyone take Rosiland Harker's clues as the gospel truth?  How id she find a note from Roy inside her couch if she is blind?  I am not convinced of that her description of Red John is accurate.

I was leaning toward Gale Bertram, but something in "Red John Rules" changed my mind.  In the discussions between Jane and Lisbon the only of the seven mentioned was Gale Bertram.  This leads me to believe that he will be the first Red John suspect to die in the upcoming season.  Lisbon is like Watson to Sherlock Holmes and Hastings to Hercule Poirot.  She states the obvious despite being a great moral character.  Her mention of Bertram seems to doom Bertram in my opinion. 

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While looking thru short clips related to the list of 7 suspects...it suddenly dawned on me something that I think we've all overlooked or misidentified since the very beginning.....it's been believed mistakenly for a looong time that Red John's infamous sign of his work was of extreme likeness to Patrick Jane's face....but upon looking back at several clips of him....one will see an amazing likeness to Brett Partridge's face in cartoon form.. especially when he was excited and smiling widely while demonstrating with the golf club from the first season episode...it would make sooo much creepy sense for him to be signing with his own face that he sees in his mind's eye with each of his killings....

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I feel like the list of 7 suspects is misleading and the real Red John is someone else.

I still fail to understand why would Gabe Bertram, Ray Haffner or Brett Partridge would have a 'mole inside the CBI' to eliminate Todd Johnson when they were there themselves ?? (Bertram was one of the 4 suspects anyway and was very close to the holding cell where Todd Johnson was)

Sheriff McCallister, Brett Stiles and Reed Diamond do not match the physical description of Rj as provided by Rosalind Harker

Bob Kirkland was not recognized by Jason Lennon so he cannot be Rj either.

I strongly suspect that Rj is someone with ties to Jane's past carnival life. Although I think it is unlikely it is his father, it could be something like a twin brother since the show has not made ANY references to Jane's mother.

Thoughts?

PLEASE DO COMMENT BELOW AS I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW YOUR OPINION

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It was said that the first Red John's smile was made by a boy. Red John is about 40-50 years old. From this we can exclude from the list Bret Stiles (he's 60-70 years old). The blind girlfriend of Red John said he has good physical strenght, but he's not very robust. And from this we can exclude Reede Smith. The last suspect I exclude is Bob Kirkland: in the various episodes authors made him too malicious, and so suspectable. Brett Partridge is too young. The remaining suspect for me are: Haffner, Bertram, and McAllister. Among this three I choose Haffner.

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In extension to my theory on Gale Bertram below, I'd like to add that he seems to be the one person on the list, who really enjoys a challenge (a Red John trait). For example, in the episode where Jane is being held hostage, it's almost like he's testing Lisbon, to see how far she would go to protect Jane. After taking jurisdiction away from her, he sits back and waits for her next move (as if it was a chess game). In a way, it's almost like he's boasting, saying that he has Jane's life in his own hands, and he can easily influence and dictate what happens next. He's surprised then when Lisbon uses the media against him (his main flaw) but just like throughout the series, he generally respects anyone who can outplay him, and appears to really admire her actions(similar again to RJ who enjoys having worthy adversaries). Another point is, it was Bertram who informed LaRoche of Hightower's affair. Maybe she was was getting onto him somehow, and he felt threatened, so wanted rid of her. Being a showman, he had to do it theatrically in a way which could lead to Patrick somehow getting involved. Effectively his plan worked, because not only did he succeed in scaring off Hightower and remain anonymous, he also got to beat Jane again in another twisted battle of wits.
In the recent finale when Lisbon asks Jane how he knows that the murder was really  by RJ, Jane replies "because when it's him, he can feel it". When I first saw this, it took me right back to when Jane first meets Bertram. Straight away, Jane takes a disliking to Bertram and starts acting strangely..how many times does he turn down a case, because it doesn't feel right? Somehow I just feel it's connected, and that, that same gut instinct yelling out at him in the finale, was present when he first met RJ/ Bertram.
The meeting between Bertram and Lisbon (and Kirkland), was purposefully set up, in my opinion, so that people would start suspecting her to be an accomplice, and the tricks worked for some.  I think she's innocent and what Bob meant when he said "can we trust her" is that could they trust her to be telling the truth about Jane's progress in finding Red John. This would support my idea that Jane was trying and succeeding to worry RJ, by constantly hiding out in his attic, thus forcing Kirkland and Bertram to break rank and make the next move: break in and steal his research. Jane's on to them, I'm sure of it!

Finally, out of all the suspects, I think Bertram's the one that would shock the rest of the characters the most. Imagine your boss, a high ranking policeman, turning out to be the notorious serial killer you've been hunting for all these years! The reactions we'd see from Lisbon, the team etc, would make for amazing television. Plays out much better than a murderous sheriff or forensic tech which have all been done before eg. Dexter.
Thanks again for reading.

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